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KillerBob

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I find that even when I increase the CPU speed, the score in 3dMark2001 doesn't increase markably.

1. With FSB at "220", AGP Ratio at "1:1", AGP/PCI set to "Fixed", and the RAM at "2-6-3-3", my 3DMark2001 score is 18573.

2. With FSB at "230", AGP Ratio at "5:4", AGP/PCI set to "Fixed", and the RAM at "2-6-3-3", my 3DMark2001 score actually DECREASED to 18448.

Also worth a mentioning is that the score is not much better than the 17987 I started out with before installing any software, and with FSB at "200".

What limits the score, it is obviously not the CPU speed? My ATi 9800 has run at the same speed throughout all testing (380/340).
 

Grit

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Originally posted by: thatsright
TWO QUESTIONS for any IC7 Owners:

Just got my NEW ABIT IC7-NON-g version and I have a question for any owners of the IC7 as well. I opened up the box yesterday afternoon, and I could of swoorn that there was One Abit Serillel 2 Adapter in the box. Maybe I'm just remebering something else?

Have any other owners of the IC7 received one of the Adapters in their Accessories Box?

Just curious.

Also, I have a older 6.4Gig drive that I believe is ATA66, now If I was going to hook this up on my IC7, from what I can tell in the MB manual, It won't work if I put it on a Adapter on a SATA channel, as it is not a ATA100 Drive, right??.

Thanks if anyone can help me out.

I'm guessing you were seeing things... the IC7-non-G is not suppose to come with a Serielle2 adapter. As for the ATA66 drive, I have no idea.

 

KillerBob

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Originally posted by: JonnyBlaze
Killerbob, change the cycle time from 6 to 7 and do new benchmarks. it should go up.

Matt

Nope! My 3DMark2001 went down to 18423 (about 1%) after changing the RAM timings to 2-7-3-3, l;eaving the FSB at "220", AGP Ratio at "1:1", and AGP/PCI set to "Fixed".

I think it is the ATi card that's the limiter in the system. Wonder if I should have waited for the FX5900;)
 

virtuamike

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Originally posted by: KillerBob
I find that even when I increase the CPU speed, the score in 3dMark2001 doesn't increase markably.

1. With FSB at "220", AGP Ratio at "1:1", AGP/PCI set to "Fixed", and the RAM at "2-6-3-3", my 3DMark2001 score is 18573.

2. With FSB at "230", AGP Ratio at "5:4", AGP/PCI set to "Fixed", and the RAM at "2-6-3-3", my 3DMark2001 score actually DECREASED to 18448.

Also worth a mentioning is that the score is not much better than the 17987 I started out with before installing any software, and with FSB at "200".

What limits the score, it is obviously not the CPU speed? My ATi 9800 has run at the same speed throughout all testing (380/340).

I think you mean mem ratio, not AGP ratio. At 5:4 your CPU runs faster by almost 5% but your mem speeds are 16% slower, that's why your scores are lower. Keep it at 5:4 but bump your FSB up higher, see if your CPU will dance at 250+ FSB.
 

JonnyBlaze

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i cant get my fsb above 235 for somereason.

tried with 5:4 and 3:2 and all different ram speed settings.

 

acemcmac

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so... whats the word on the new HSF unit that was just in the news for the whole abit IC7-IS7 line... are we going to revolt if they dont let us in on some deal to get our hands on the improved heatsink?

Anand News Short
 

Blackhawk66

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just for you guys information, I got my temp at 37C when idle and 57C when running prime95 for 12 hours...

2.4C o/c to 3.0 (fsb250) @ 1.575V
2x256MB Corsair 3500C2 (5:4) @ 2.7V
Albatron GFX 5600
 

dartworth

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JoonyBlaze...you might want to try pumping up you core voltage. I pushed mine up to 1.625v. I'm running my system at 266MHz FSB..well I'm running it through Prime95/SETI right now. Stable all the way up to 264 MHz FSB so far...

Settings

Ram: 2-6-3-3
Core Voltage: 1.625v
AGP Ratio: 5:4
AGP/PCI Freq: Fixed
AGP Voltage: 1.6v
DDR SDRAM Voltage: 2.8v
 

mngisdood

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Originally posted by: JonnyBlaze
i cant get my fsb above 235 for somereason.

tried with 5:4 and 3:2 and all different ram speed settings.

Something is very wrong then. Your memory itself should be able to hit 215 or so at 1:1.
You have the 1.3 bios, enough voltage to ram, and adequate cooling?
 

thatsright

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Does anyone know how to enable in the Ver 1.13 bios, so that m Boot Screen doesn't flash by so quickly? Basicaly when I start the PC, I see the CPU/ RAM/ MB Info. for a split second. Is there any way I could set it to see it for maybe one or even two seconds?

Thanks.
 

TygGer

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My CPU temp after a couple of hours running Prime95 is 63C!!! That seems much higher than what others have been reporting using Winbond.

P4C 2.4mhz (not OC'd)
Coolermaster ATC-220 case
 

JonnyBlaze

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Originally posted by: mngisdood
Originally posted by: JonnyBlaze
i cant get my fsb above 235 for somereason.

tried with 5:4 and 3:2 and all different ram speed settings.

Something is very wrong then. Your memory itself should be able to hit 215 or so at 1:1.
You have the 1.3 bios, enough voltage to ram, and adequate cooling?

i can and do run at 220fsb with the ram @ 1:1 2.0-3-3-7

i can get it to boot @240fsb with the ram lowered, but it dosent seem to stable. any higher, even with the ram on 3:2 it wont post.

 

JonnyBlaze

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nah, i just checked mine at stock speeds and im fast than all of those numbers :)

in sandra & 3dmarks anyways. didnt check the other programs

 

KillerBob

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Originally posted by: JonnyBlaze
nah, i just checked mine at stock speeds and im fast than all of those numbers :)

in sandra & 3dmarks anyways. didnt check the other programs

JB, funny how we have identical systems, and got the exact same score out-of-the-box in 3DMark2001 (17987):)
 

kevinlsw

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Originally posted by: TygGer
My CPU temp after a couple of hours running Prime95 is 63C!!! That seems much higher than what others have been reporting using Winbond.

P4C 2.4mhz (not OC'd)
Coolermaster ATC-220 case

I have found a good FAQ from the Abit SupportSite regarding CPU temperature if you are interested.

Link here

Mine is even worse.

P4C 2.8mhz (not OC'd)
Stock Intel HSF
Coolermaster ATC-201 case
2 x 512 mb Corsair XMS 3500C2

My CPU temp goes up to 70-72C when running Prime95 and 3Dmark01 simultaneously!!
I attempted unsuccessfully to reseat the stock HSF by popping off the clips. But even tho it's loose, the 4 corners of the HSF are still grabbing on to the socket so damn tightly. I chickened out before I applied too much exessive force.

Any suggestion on how to remove the intel stock hsf from the motherboard? Thanks in advance.
 

etrin

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Just want to ask. I have read a lot lately about people getting less than stellar oc.
Some with same eq get great scores.

With abit talking about a new Heavy Duty Northbridge cooler. Could this be the reason
for some getting bad scores. High Northbridge Temps maybe???

I got a zalman to put on mine and am thinking I better check more before replacement.
Man I wish I had the money for an EXOS..
and add a northbridge cooler to it.

oh well maybe next tax year...we will be going ok who can get their prescott to 4.5G

Just a thought
etrin
 

anomaly

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Can someone give me step by step instructions on how to flash the bios? I read on the abit website, but the translation is very bad. Any help would be great.
 

thatsright

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Originally posted by: anomaly
Can someone give me step by step instructions on how to flash the bios? I read on the abit website, but the translation is very bad. Any help would be great.

Okay Anomaly, this is how I did it. You'll need two blank floppies.

1. Create a Win98 Boot Disk (if you can, or some other type of system boot floppy).
2. Now download the ABIT IC7 BIOS 1.13 file. You only need this one file, the AWARDFLASH component that is needed for the flash process is included in the BIOS 1.13 file download
3. Once you download that BIOS file to you PC, double click on it. Then take the 3 (or maybe it was 4 files i think?) files that were extracted and copy to a blank floppy diskette.
4. With your New PC, make sure your IC7 has the BIOS set to boot first to floppy. Then insert the WIN98 Boot Disk. Once this runs after a few seconds, select, 'Start This PC Without CD-ROM Support'
5. Now put in your Floppy with your updated 1.13 BIOS Files on it. Then type in runme.bat at the A:\ prompt. From then on out, the AWARDFLASH utility will do all of the work.
6. Once your done, make sure you reset the CMOS Jumper. Do this for, I dunno maybe 20 or 30 seconds. You need to do this for the MB to reset everything for the new BIOS ver.

And thats what I did. Hope this helps.
 

virtuamike

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Hrm . . . I think Abit might be telling the truth about the high temps.

Prime95 kept crashing so I kept increasing voltage to compensate. Got up to 1.675 and it crashed like 4 minutes into the test. I figure what the hell, CPU temps suck, let's bring it back down to 1.550. Guess what, stable. I'm at 63C under load, but that's well below the near 70C temps I got when increasing voltage. Currently at 260FSB, 5:4. I think I'll start increasing FSB again, I wanna find out what this CPU can do (heck, might be my RAM holding back, have Winbond CH5).

I think with these P4Cs, just stick with default voltage and get it up to as high as you can. Key is keeping CPU cool, increasing voltage doesn't seem to help because the heat makes it more unstable. Now I'm debating whether I should upgrade my case fans or try water cooling.