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Indus

Lifer
May 11, 2002
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Looks like we are in for January mini correction

I am 100% sure on Tesla being the most overvalued stock on the S&P 500. If it's at 5800 today.. you can pretty much bet once Tesla corrects due to earnings and Elon being Elon (the most hated person in America).. it should be correcting 300-500 points (so approx. 5300-5500) just on that basis.

The market correction/ mini correction you mentioned has to be outside that Tesla bubble and it could very well happen.
 

biostud

Lifer
Feb 27, 2003
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I have some house renovations coming up later this year so I pull some money out of the markets. Luckily I didn't have much losses that I could balance out the taxes with.
We to a loan in our house to build a new garage/basement instead.
 

FelixDeCat

Lifer
Aug 4, 2000
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Getting off to a bad start this year, already some bad trades under my belt with the volatility. You can be long for a trade but if the market is going down it will take all stocks with it. Same if you are short.

On Friday I got fooled. I was buying a promising stock for a trade and was averaging in. I put a large amount in but then things started to hit a wall and kept bouncing up against it. The more I found out the less I liked about the company. Now I had to start mitigating losses because I had a feeling the thing was going to crash ...and sure enough...

When you have a situation like that you can sell outright but because I had too many trades I could not sell. Thankfully the stock had options so now I could use that tool to try to fix things.

My average price was 5.29. I sold 4.00 calls against it, collecting 1.35 in premiums that expire next Friday. That gave me some downside insurance, so my losses would be covered to that point if it expires worthless and held to expiration .. and stock was right at $4.00. Below that and your losses continue, that is why I also bought puts while they were still cheap.

I also bought 5.00 puts for .60 meaning that I could not lose more than 4.40 per share even if the company stock went to zero. I also bought 3.50 puts for .30 just for giggles.

Right after closing the company declared a stock offering at 3.20 per share! All the options paid off (on paper, for now)

On paper I am actually up $124 because of the remedial options. Sure beats a $3,000 loss.
 
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Indus

Lifer
May 11, 2002
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Getting off to a bad start this year, already some bad trades under my belt with the volatility. You can be long for a trade but if the market is going down it will take all stocks with it. Same if you are short.

On Friday I got fooled. I was buying a promising stock for a trade and was averaging in. I put a large amount in but then things started to hit a wall and kept bouncing up against it. The more I found out the less I liked about the company. Now I had to start mitigating losses because I had a feeling the thing was going to crash ...and sure enough...

When you have a situation like that you can sell outright but because I had too many trades I could not sell. Thankfully the stock had options so now I could use that tool to try to fix things.

My average price was 5.29. I sold 4.00 calls against it, collecting 1.35 in premiums that expire next Friday. That gave me some downside insurance, so my losses would be covered to that point if it expires worthless and held to expiration .. and stock was right at $4.00. Below that and your losses continue, that is why I also bought puts while they were still cheap.

I also bought 5.00 puts for .60 meaning that I could not lose more than 4.40 per share even if the company stock went to zero. I also bought 3.50 puts for .30 just for giggles.

Right after closing the company declared a stock offering at 3.20 per share! All the options paid off (on paper, for now)

On paper I am actually up $124 because of the remedial options. Sure beats a $3,000 loss.

Holy shit.
 

Indus

Lifer
May 11, 2002
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More negative publicity for Tesla with real life concerns about your data going to the government..

Tesla is becoming like Bitcoin.. something mainstream doesn't like but some fanboys love.
 

Indus

Lifer
May 11, 2002
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^Not really sure this belongs in this thread.

I put it here because it is going to be a drag on it's stock price. And because the S&P 500 is heavily weighted index it'll be a drag on index funds.

Unless you all think I'm overestimating the impact on the stock evaluation.
 

jpiniero

Lifer
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I put it here because it is going to be a drag on it's stock price. And because the S&P 500 is heavily weighted index it'll be a drag on index funds.

Unless you all think I'm overestimating the impact on the stock evaluation.

I think it's pretty clear that TSLA's valuation has little to do with the actual business. Like Tech Stocks.

It's still like 70% higher than where it was before the election.
 

IEC

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Jun 10, 2004
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I put it here because it is going to be a drag on it's stock price. And because the S&P 500 is heavily weighted index it'll be a drag on index funds.

Unless you all think I'm overestimating the impact on the stock evaluation.
You are definitely overestimating. You may not be wrong in the longer run, but all the people who shorted TSLA recently had to realize losses due to the insane run upwards post election.

Remember the old adage: The market can remain irrational longer than you can remain solvent

tl;dr MARGIN CALL!
 
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Indus

Lifer
May 11, 2002
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You are definitely overestimating. You may not be wrong in the longer run, but all the people who shorted TSLA recently had to realize losses due to the insane run upwards post election.

Remember the old adage: The market can remain irrational longer than you can remain solvent

tl;dr MARGIN CALL!

All green and going higher..

I know you can't time it perfectly but at least a little pull back from the ATH would be nice but it seems this market is really trying hard to make people invest and get in at ATH's because of FOMO.
 

dasherHampton

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Jan 19, 2018
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What do you know? Another one of my dead dogs shows signs of life. FUBO is up big today. Is it a meme thing? I'm afraid to look.

I've kept FUBO in my account for years as a reminder of what hubris can bring.

It's great seeing zombies start to shamble. CLOV, WKEY some others.

Now I just need MVIS to finally show that it's not dead.
 
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FelixDeCat

Lifer
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What do you know? Another one of my dead dogs shows signs of life. FUBO is up big today. Is it a meme thing? I'm afraid to look.

I've kept FUBO in my account for years as a reminder of what hubris can bring.

It's great seeing zombies start to shamble. CLOV, WKEY some others.

Now I just need MVIS to finally show that it's not dead.
When I see Fubo the old slogan always comes to mind:

Thanks TIVO!
 

dasherHampton

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When I see Fubo the old slogan always comes to mind:

Thanks TIVO!
Sorry Felix, I:m a little slow on the uptake at times.

Are FUBO and TIVO related?

My cost basis on FUBO is around $20 a share but I'm pretty sure I'd break even if it ever hit $10, given the options profits from it.
 

FelixDeCat

Lifer
Aug 4, 2000
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Sorry Felix, I:m a little slow on the uptake at times.

Are FUBO and TIVO related?

My cost basis on FUBO is around $20 a share but I'm pretty sure I'd break even if it ever hit $10, given the options profits from it.
They are not related. About 20 years ago or longer Tivo used to be high flyer - untill it wasn't. It turned into a dog.

Anyway I used to see people lament every time when the stock fell lower and lower their corporate slogan back then "Thanks Tivo". It was meant as sarcasm.

Edit: I have seen people speculate that Fubo could hit 8 or more, maybe your longsuffering days may soon be over. I currently have no position but it looks interesting for a trade either long or short. People always want to price in expectations immediately.
 
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Indus

Lifer
May 11, 2002
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I shoulda put some money down on the Icy World of HOTH warming up..

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FelixDeCat

Lifer
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I've been watching Hoth for years. The news looks good and the market cap is small. Would have been a good trade.

Beware of a secondary offering after the close of tomorrow morning. Phase 2 and shifting to Phase 3 still requires years of expensive research.
 

FelixDeCat

Lifer
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Also bought 2k Fubo 5.63 for a trade. Had a crazy dream last night the price rocketed then crashed.
 

dasherHampton

Platinum Member
Jan 19, 2018
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I actually watched FUBO a little last night because I was bored. Got up to almost 7 before coming back (at least while I was watching).

I've never made an after hours trade. The spreads are atrocious. I've always wondered if traders who work for financial firms are subject to them or if they're just there for us retail schmucks.
 

FelixDeCat

Lifer
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Jensen Huang pooh pools quantum tech by stating the obvious...the tech is way to far off to monetize for now....quantum stocks are now falling by 30, 40 and 50%.
 

dasherHampton

Platinum Member
Jan 19, 2018
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LOL Ever since SAVA this place has turned into a good luck charm again.

ANOTHER one of my rotten nuts shows signs of like: VIR up big today.

Thanks guys. Maybe the SAVA thing was just something I had to go through.
 
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FelixDeCat

Lifer
Aug 4, 2000
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I actually watched FUBO a little last night because I was bored. Got up to almost 7 before coming back (at least while I was watching).

I've never made an after hours trade. The spreads are atrocious. I've always wondered if traders who work for financial firms are subject to them or if they're just there for us retail schmucks.
I'm starting to love Fubo.