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Any guesses where Kevin Love will be playing to start the 2016-2017 season?

I know the Cavs won the Finals but the relationship seems strained and ran the course.
 
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I'm glad General Soreness was traded. The guy simply can't play anymore. We gave him $100 million and got nothing in return.
 
thesmokingman

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Adrenaline said:
Durant should just leave OKC. That is awful.
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Not really, they got a pretty good deal for him in Oladipo and book end to Adams in Sabonis. It's sad to break up the trio, but Ibaka isn't what he used to be and Sabonis is a very good scorer and rebounder.
 
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OKC raped ORL in terms of value, but Oladipo, Ilyasova & Sabonis are not good fit and definitely not championship calibre player.
Ibaka is one of those rare PFs who can catch & shoot the mid-range with consistency.
Oladipo without ball in his hand is useless, I don't think he will make much difference compare to Dion Waiters last year.
What I don't get is why pay Singler 5 mil a year and shelf him, but then you go ahead and get ilyasova.

Hennigan brought ORL back to the stone ages with the tobias & oladipo trades.
 
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UncleWai said:
OKC raped ORL in terms of value, but Oladipo, Ilyasova & Sabonis are not good fit and definitely not championship calibre player.
Ibaka is one of those rare PFs who can catch & shoot the mid-range with consistency.
Oladipo without ball in his hand is useless, I don't think he will make much difference compare to Dion Waiters last year.
What I don't get is why pay Singler 5 mil a year and shelf him, but then you go ahead and get ilyasova.

Hennigan brought ORL back to the stone ages with the tobias & oladipo trades.
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Ibaka is maybe rare... I dunno if I'd use rare. Rare is like Dennis Rodman, but Ibaka is very very good no doubt but he's slowing and his contract is getting large. They can't afford to pay him nor Waiters if they have to resign Durant. Ibaka and Waiters have large payments coming to them that OKC can't afford. That sais, the hole left will be filled by Sabonis who has a very polished big man game, his post work is good stuff, his only downside is his short arms but he comes from great genes so he already has great game senses. His dad...

And I concur, wtf are they doing with Singler? Guy is 28, sucking up valuable cap room. There's probably some extenuating circumstance why they haven't done something with him?
 
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I'd argue Ibaka is rare and someone Rodman level is one of those forwards that come around once or twice a generation. He improves any team with a volume scorer on the floor. It's unfortunate his personality ended up overshadowing his magnificent performances on the court.

I have no idea what OKC are doing anymore. They are going to lose Durant and Westbrook and be a team that wins 25 games a year soon and is spending a lot of money.
 
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I think it's a hedge bet that Durant might leave, but at the same time they are still selling to Durant that they will cut ilyasova get a cheaper serviceable big (biyombo, david west?).

It's a step backward, a panic move I would say.
 
Miramonti

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Annnnd we'll start off with Derick Rose going to the Knicks!

http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/16427840/new-york-knicks-acquire-derrick-rose-chicago-bulls
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As a DRose fan, I'll take my fanship to NY.

While I think trading him made a lot of sense for the Bulls and is Rose's fault imo, the heck with the holier-than-thou John Paxson and Gar Forman, who fired a great coach, hired an unproven one that proved to suck, and to lowball Noah once again during contract negotiations.

/edit: Prediction, barring any serious injuries, Knicks will get a quality big man in free agency and absolutely will make the playoffs.
 
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Miramonti

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Blackjack200 said:
Who is available? Howard and Gasol?
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And Noah.

Rose clubbing with Noah in NY last Thursday after being traded, hopefully he lands there:

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Miramonti

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Noah working on 4 year, $72m agreement with Knicks, yay.

OJ Mayo banned from league for 2 years for violating drug policy :eek:

Two other shockers on a different scale
Mozgov to Lakers, 4 years $64m
Al Jefferson to Pacers, 3 years $30 :eek:

I have no f'ing clue why Jefferson would take only $10m/yr while scrubs will get that during this free agent frenzy. He should have been able to land a contract for more than twice that, especially when a limited center like Mozgov gets $64m.

Too many other 'agreements' to list (actual signings start 7/7.)
 
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Miramonti said:
Noah working on 4 year, $72m agreement with Knicks, yay.

OJ Mayo banned from league for 2 years for violating drug policy :eek:

Two other shockers on a different scale
Mozgov to Lakers, 4 years $64m
Al Jefferson to Pacers, 3 years $30 :eek:

I have no f'ing clue why Jefferson would take only $10m/yr while scrubs will get that during this free agent frenzy. He should have been able to land a contract for more than twice that, especially when a limited center like Mozgov gets $64m.

Too many other 'agreements' to list (actual signings start 7/7.)
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Hard to say, but Al Jefferson must not have a clean bill of health. A 31-year-old big man coming off injuries does carry quite a bit of risk. Sort of the same reason Joakim Noah's deal could be seen as risky but we don't know yet if his last season was an outlier. Jefferson's deal does seem awfully cheap though.

This free agency period is gonna be weird because there is a spending floor, and teams will be lavishing big contracts on marginal players. It's bad enough that prospects like Bradley Beal get max deals (he's not a max player), but right when the cap skyrockets? Fans won't think of it in terms of percentage of the salary cap but huge 9 figure contracts.

Many teams think the rising cap will lift all boats, but a bad contract is still a bad contract in a couple years (except for deals signed last year or earlier). Just for example, Enes Kanter is paid ~ $17M to come in off the bench because OKC was afraid of looking like cheapskates before KD's last season before free agency?

Big ups to Mark Cuban for having the guts to let Chandler Parsons go to a GM who is willing to waste a max contract slot. Sure, the Mavs won't bring Dirk another ring and Cuban doesn't even need the money, but Parsons isn't a star player anyway.
 
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And, as Bill Simmons said, the Knicks love to pay tons of money for past their prime players. Surprised they didn't go after Howard instead.
 
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smackababy said:
And, as Bill Simmons said, the Knicks love to pay tons of money for past their prime players. Surprised they didn't go after Howard instead.
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It's the big rivalry between the Knicks and Nets, who can overpay more old players?
 
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