*Official* 2015 NFL Thread -> Round1 playoffs (Wildcards)

[Jeffg010]

I hate Burfict so bad it now has been shown that he rammed his knee into Roethlisberger's shoulder. What a piece of shit this guy is.
http://www.steelersdepot.com/2016/0...e-burfict-in-full-thug-mode-against-steelers/

 

[zinfamous]

I hate Burfict so bad it now has been shown that he rammed his knee into Roethlisberger's shoulder. What a piece of shit this guy is.
http://www.steelersdepot.com/2016/0...e-burfict-in-full-thug-mode-against-steelers/

homer steelers fansite or not--that is some fucked-up shit that anyone can see.

Dude needs to miss a season without pay.

fuck the union.

 

[SP33Demon]

YaThink?

Sp33D has been aiming hard for this year's "emperus" trophy for the most incorrigible, logic-challenged, dumbshit superfan.

But he's got tough competition, yet again.

Still, he's the only remaining person that thinks Bradford is an NFL-quality QB. that is bonus points for him.

Once again talking like a dipshit.

Bradford finished 4th in Adjusted Accuracy and Bridgewater was first, both ahead of Brady. But I bet you think they sucked because they were on mediocre offenses without tons of TDs like Cousins had since Cousins benefited from the highest catch rate in the league on offense. Newsflash, they all performed at around the same level if receivers catch what they're paid to catch.

Here's a tissue, now tell us more about QBR numbers and why they're so great. /snicker

 

[smackababy]

Once again talking like a dipshit.

Bradford finished 4th in Adjusted Accuracy and Bridgewater was first, both ahead of Brady. But I bet you think they sucked because they were on mediocre offenses without tons of TDs like Cousins had since Cousins benefited from the highest catch rate in the league on offense. Newsflash, they all performed at around the same level if receivers catch what they're paid to catch.

Here's a tissue, now tell us more about QBR numbers and why they're so great. /snicker

Newflash, Brady won games. Bradford hasn't.

 

[SunnyD]

Yay... Buffalo is hiring Rob Ryan in some capacity. I seriously need a new team.

 

[smackababy]

Yay... Buffalo is hiring Rob Ryan in some capacity. I seriously need a new team.

Ryan brothers on the same team? Something amazing has to happen! Butt fumble 2.0?

 

[Balt]

Hey Skins fans, you like that? I liked that. Nice defense btw. You got pounded into oblivion by lacy, starks, and cobb as the pundits predicted. May want to draft some run stoppers next year, and oh btw a secondary to boot. Without Breeland that is a Div II college secondary. The pass rush was serviceable but that doesn't mean shit when you can't stop the run.

Was also glad to see the injury bug hit the Skins when it mattered most, they've been the luckiest by far regarding injured starters in the NFC Least. Statistical probability reared its ugly head at the worst time.

Stay classy, butthurt Eagles fan.

Yay... Buffalo is hiring Rob Ryan in some capacity. I seriously need a new team.

Ugh, good luck. New Orleans wasted too much time with him, and after he was fired he still refused to take any responsibility for how awful the defense was and acted like he was a victim (eg, the awful 'they blame me for everything, including Katrina' joke he made on NFL Network).

 

[pete6032]

You know, I kinda love the talking heads and pundits all dismissing the Chiefs' accomplishment of defeating 11 of their opponents in a row. They make it seems as if all the teams the Chiefs have played are high school teams.

I mean, if it's so freaking easy, why is that no team in the history of the NFL has ever gone 1-5 and then proceeded to go straight to the playoff on a 10 win streak after?

They're ridiculous. It's like none of them actually watch the games. They just predict who will win based on which teams are the media darlings.

 

[SP33Demon]

I hate Burfict so bad it now has been shown that he rammed his knee into Roethlisberger's shoulder. What a piece of shit this guy is.
http://www.steelersdepot.com/2016/0...e-burfict-in-full-thug-mode-against-steelers/

Don't forget about last week vs the Ravens:
http://ftw.usatoday.com/2016/01/vontaze-burfict-dirty-player

Don't forget last year's ankle twisting BS:
http://www.nfl.com/videos/cincinnat...ntaze-Burfict-to-be-fined-for-twisting-ankles

He's also done stupid shit in college:
https://youtu.be/b_jDyvvg4MY
https://youtu.be/c6yDDMbW32A
https://youtu.be/qZ7Dn3Qm9AI

He'd be in prison if he wasn't in the NFL.

 

[SP33Demon]

Newflash, Brady won games. Bradford hasn't.

Newsflash, winning is a function of a team and not only QB. Gronk > Ertz, Gronk > Rudolph, Gronk > Reed, Gronk > all Seattle TE's from the past combined into 1 player. Edelman > all slot receivers in the league. Butler/Ryan/McCourty/Chung = top 3 secondary in the league. We can keep going if you'd like.

If you isolate just the QB's performance, Brady rounds out the top 5 this year in accuracy. Teddy/Cousins/Russ/Bradford were on Brady's level regardless of what the rest of the team did. This is indisputable per advanced metrics.

 

[smackababy]

Newsflash, winning is a function of a team and not only QB. Gronk > Ertz, Gronk > Rudolph, Gronk > Reed, Gronk > all Seattle TE's from the past combined into 1 player. Edelman > all slot receivers in the league. Logan/Ryan/McCourty/Chung = top 3 secondary in the league. We can keep going if you'd like.

If you isolate just the QB's performance, Brady rounds out the top 5 this year in accuracy. Teddy/Cousins/Russ/Bradford were on Brady's level regardless of what the rest of the team did. This is indisputable per advanced metrics.

So, if we isolate (and by isolate, you mean remove things that are unfavorable to your argument), Bradford is almost an NFL caliber QB.

But, it's cool, enjoy wishing injuries on other teams and players.

 

[emperus]

Newsflash, winning is a function of a team and not only QB. Gronk > Ertz, Gronk > Rudolph, Gronk > Reed, Gronk > all Seattle TE's from the past combined into 1 player. Edelman > all slot receivers in the league. Butler/Ryan/McCourty/Chung = top 3 secondary in the league. We can keep going if you'd like.

If you isolate just the QB's performance, Brady rounds out the top 5 this year in accuracy. Teddy/Cousins/Russ/Bradford were on Brady's level regardless of what the rest of the team did. This is indisputable per advanced metrics.

Watch some Patriots games before you use them in any argument.

 

[emperus]

They had a pretty soft schedule. I mean cmon, the only win on their schedule worth a shit was their Denver win in a game where Peyton had 54323290 injuries (plantar fascia, ribs, shoulder) and threw 4 picks.

Then they went on to beat the Steelers with... Landry Jones starting his first game over Big Ben who threw 2 picks and coughed up a fumble. Hell, their last 4 home games against losing teams either came down to the last possession or were decided with 2 minutes left.

Yes, they beat Houston but the Texans were missing Clowney, had a hobbled Watt with groin/hand at 50% or less, lost their best OT in Duane Brown and their QB sucks balls WITH Duane Brown healthy. So you do the math.

I'll give them credit for winning the games they should have won, but that is not something to be impressed by. Play a team without a backup QB with a winning record and then I'll be impressed. Luckily we'll get to see what they're made of in Foxboro and I'm guessing it's going to end with a big fat-like-Reid loss.

Yeah, going to have to do some research on them. Haven't watched many of their games, but can't really trust them right now. They did trash us last year which propelled talk of BRady being benched and then our superbowl run. That should make for an interesting story line for all those who like that sort of thing.

 

[glenn1]

Newsflash, winning is a function of a team and not only QB. Gronk > Ertz, Gronk > Rudolph, Gronk > Reed, Gronk > all Seattle TE's from the past combined into 1 player. Edelman > all slot receivers in the league. Butler/Ryan/McCourty/Chung = top 3 secondary in the league. We can keep going if you'd like.

If you isolate just the QB's performance, Brady rounds out the top 5 this year in accuracy. Teddy/Cousins/Russ/Bradford were on Brady's level regardless of what the rest of the team did. This is indisputable per advanced metrics.

Reed has become as good as Gronk and arguably better given the difference in quality of QB throwing to him, both guys are money. Edelman is second to Larry Fitzgerald in the slot role and Doug Baldwin has been giving him a run for the money as the #2 guy the last 6 games or so. No arguments about Brady. Don't know enough about the NE secondary to comment on your top 3 claim.

 

[zinfamous]

Yay... Buffalo is hiring Rob Ryan in some capacity. I seriously need a new team.

sorry bro. I figured the Eagles would do it, but they let Kelly go, so this shit falls on you.

sucks.

 

[zinfamous]

Yeah, going to have to do some research on them. Haven't watched many of their games, but can't really trust them right now. They did trash us last year which propelled talk of BRady being benched and then our superbowl run. That should make for an interesting story line for all those who like that sort of thing.

you assume the pats are getting to the SB this year?

funny.

EDIT:
oh next week. sorry. carry on.

 

[Shlong]

Newsflash, winning is a function of a team and not only QB. Gronk > Ertz, Gronk > Rudolph, Gronk > Reed, Gronk > all Seattle TE's from the past combined into 1 player. Edelman > all slot receivers in the league. Butler/Ryan/McCourty/Chung = top 3 secondary in the league. We can keep going if you'd like.

If you isolate just the QB's performance, Brady rounds out the top 5 this year in accuracy. Teddy/Cousins/Russ/Bradford were on Brady's level regardless of what the rest of the team did. This is indisputable per advanced metrics.

There's also called an eyeball test, only Russ was in the category of Brady this year imo (along with Cam Newton and Carson Palmer). Brady won superbowls when his best receiver was Troy Brown. Edelman has been injured a lot, so has Amendola, he only had Gronk most of the season and they've been bracketing coverage to shut him down.

 

[smackababy]

There's also called an eyeball test, only Russ was in the category of Brady this year imo (along with Cam Newton and Carson Palmer). Brady won superbowls when his best receiver was Troy Brown. Edelman has been injured a lot, so has Amendola, he only had Gronk most of the season and they've been bracketing coverage to shut him down.

What what it's worth, Troy Brown had an All-Pro year when Brady won the SB with him as the best receiver on the team and he had a career year.

 

[BUTCH1]

Redskins have been rather consistent and impressive the last part of the year to be sure. The GB that started the season finally showed up tonight after a mid-season vacation; but no one is surprised by this.

I mean, all standing equal, it's Cowboys or Skins next year, assuming Romo comes back to full form. But a lot can happen. The Cowboys were "supposed" to win the super bowl coming into this year, you know. It's the NFL, shit happens.

Well, it's pretty certain the Eagles will continue to suck balls next year. ....Unless they get rid of Bradford. Then they might have a winning season, at least.

PS: Bradford is a shit QB and will never start for a playoff team.

The Cowboys can win when Romo is playing but when is the last season he was not injured at some point, I can't remember TBO.

 

[Capt Caveman]

Reed has become as good as Gronk and arguably better given the difference in quality of QB throwing to him, both guys are money. Edelman is second to Larry Fitzgerald in the slot role and Doug Baldwin has been giving him a run for the money as the #2 guy the last 6 games or so. No arguments about Brady. Don't know enough about the NE secondary to comment on your top 3 claim.

Maybe in the number of receptions but he can't block nor the deep threat or break tackles like Gronk.

 

[smackababy]

The Cowboys can win when Romo is playing but when is the last season he was not injured at some point, I can't remember TBO.

Unfortunately, it hasn't been awhile. I mean, when Romo is playing, he plays great, but he is injury prone at this point. Jerry needs to get a decent guy to study under Romo for a season and be able to take over.

 

[BUTCH1]

You know, I kinda love the talking heads and pundits all dismissing the Chiefs' accomplishment of defeating 11 of their opponents in a row. They make it seems as if all the teams the Chiefs have played are high school teams.

I mean, if it's so freaking easy, why is that no team in the history of the NFL has ever gone 1-5 and then proceeded to go straight to the playoff on a 10 win streak after?

As a Pats fan I don't dismiss it one iota. They have confidence now that they can play and beat any team and after reeling off 11 straight wins can you blame them?. If they manage to get a decent lead on NE and NE get's "one-dimensional" like in the Miami game it could get ugly.

 

[SP33Demon]

Watch some Patriots games before you use them in any argument.

I watched every single one of their TDs and I follow advanced metrics on a variety of websites. I know wtf I'm talking about and have won hundreds of dollars in bets this year in a variety of season fantasy (top 2 in points scored in 4 leagues, 14man league champ), daily fantasy (won 1 league), and elimination pools (won 2 of 3 with 12 people). No, larry fitz and baldwin aren't on Edelman's level when he's healthy. Look up the PFF numbers for 2014 and the games he was healthy this year. He is the undisputed slot receiver in the league.

The Pats are the #1 secondary in the league this year, arguably #2 if you remove the ass whipping the Stillers handed the Broncos.
https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2015/12/31/pro-top-10-nfl-secondaries-this-season-2/

Gronk is the undisputable #1 TE per PFF grading at 96.4 over Delanie at a distant 2nd and Eifert a distant 3rd.

Overall, Brady is a distant 2nd in grading behind Palmer but 5th in advanced accuracy so he had a pretty good year considering the injuries.

 

[SSSnail]

They had a pretty soft schedule. I mean cmon, the only win on their schedule worth a shit was their Denver win in a game where Peyton had 54323290 injuries (plantar fascia, ribs, shoulder) and threw 4 picks.

Then they went on to beat the Steelers with... Landry Jones starting his first game over Big Ben who threw 2 picks and coughed up a fumble. Hell, their last 4 home games against losing teams either came down to the last possession or were decided with 2 minutes left.

Yes, they beat Houston but the Texans were missing Clowney, had a hobbled Watt with groin/hand at 50% or less, lost their best OT in Duane Brown and their QB sucks balls WITH Duane Brown healthy. So you do the math.

I'll give them credit for winning the games they should have won, but that is not something to be impressed by. Play a team without a backup QB with a winning record and then I'll be impressed. Luckily we'll get to see what they're made of in Foxboro and I'm guessing it's going to end with a big fat-like-Reid loss.

Like I said, "soft schedule"... really? Any given Sunday, son, any team can be beaten. There's a reason why it has NEVER HAPPENED IN THE HISTORY OF THE NFL! Every season someone is going to play this supposed "soft schedule". You know what's a soft schedule this year? The NFC Least and AFC South (actually the AFC South has been a perennial dumpster fire).

The funny thing is that if any other teams did the same thing, you'll never hear the end of it. If the Chiefs thrash somebody, there are ALWAYS a plethora of excuses on why the other team sucked. Not because the Chiefs may actually be good. Amirite?

Peyton was just lauded a week earlier prior to meeting with the Chiefs for beating up on some hapless team. But, you never hear why the other team sucked, it's because Peyton is GREAT.

People act like the Chiefs don't have injuries themselves. Newsflash, they've been in playoff mode since three months ago when they lost their arguably best offensive player. They missed their best corner, they also have a bunch of injuries both on offense and defense. Their Offensive Line makes Frankenstein looks wholesome. Yet, they continue to WIN. Next man up. No excuses.

Shove that in your face.

Edit: example Landry Jones - Oh, you mean the Landry Jones that beat up the Cardinals? That one? I also like the fact that you brought up the four home games that they won, but failed to mention the 7 road games that they also won...

And yeah, dropping 30-0 on a playoff team on the road happens all the freaking time! I mean, you don't have to look further than 10 years ago that was done...

 

[SP33Demon]

There's also called an eyeball test, only Russ was in the category of Brady this year imo (along with Cam Newton and Carson Palmer). Brady won superbowls when his best receiver was Troy Brown. Edelman has been injured a lot, so has Amendola, he only had Gronk most of the season and they've been bracketing coverage to shut him down.

The eyeball test doesn't include cumulative drops by receivers so it can't be trusted. Also remember that drops kill drives so it has an even more magnified effect on QB scoring. Hence why everyone thinks Bradford had a bad year yet fail to analyze the opportunity cost of having the most dropped passes in the league.

All in all I agree Brady had a top 3 season despite his advanced accuracy only finishing #5 but all 5 were pretty close. I'm sure he got frustrated some of the time he targeted Lafell 19 times and only caught 6 of them. WTF man, that's terrible, just terrible. If I were him I'd be confronting him in the locker room and calling him out like Big Ben did to Martavis Bryant before last night's game.