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I was proposed the trade Cam Newton for DeAngelo Williams.

Current RB: AP, Ivory, Forsett, Yeldon, Williams.
Current QB: R. Wilson and Tyrod Taylor

Not sure how much an upgrade Newton is. Been better than Wilson but Tyrods back and has been good when playing. On the other side Forsetts been flex and sort of a bust for where i drafted him. Was thinking plugging Williams in his spot on flex.

Thoughts? Lame trade?
 

T2urtle

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I was proposed the trade Cam Newton for DeAngelo Williams.

Current RB: AP, Ivory, Forsett, Yeldon, Williams.
Current QB: R. Wilson and Tyrod Taylor

Not sure how much an upgrade Newton is. Been better than Wilson but Tyrods back and has been good when playing. On the other side Forsetts been flex and sort of a bust for where i drafted him. Was thinking plugging Williams in his spot on flex.

Thoughts? Lame trade?
The trade alone seems average. I've tried trading cam for ivory, with the person having Wilson. He didn't do it, he traded ivory and got Rodgers instead. Which I don't blame him.

But not many leagues let's u plug in 4 RB
I would ask for a little more. Unless u think cam is your ticket into winning it all.
 

T2urtle

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Side note I'm a little pissed, I was #2 on the WW. Guy at 1, gave up for the year but still took Williams. So I ended up with Langford. (Forte owner)

Part of me wishes I didn't put in a claim and rolled with dice to see what the next injury happens.
 

pete6032

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Will Eddie Lacy redeem himself?

Someone offered me Lacy for Amari Cooper.
 
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SP33Demon

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Will Eddie Lacy redeem himself?

Someone offered me Lacy for Amari Cooper.
Post the rest of your team and we'll see what kind of depth you have at the WR/RB position. Lacy is trending up now, but Cooper has been great the whole season.
 
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SP33Demon

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Side note I'm a little pissed, I was #2 on the WW. Guy at 1, gave up for the year but still took Williams. So I ended up with Langford. (Forte owner)

Part of me wishes I didn't put in a claim and rolled with dice to see what the next injury happens.
Langford is due for a large workload this week so you pretty much picked up the next best WW RB aside from Deangelo.
 

SP33Demon

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I was proposed the trade Cam Newton for DeAngelo Williams.

Current RB: AP, Ivory, Forsett, Yeldon, Williams.
Current QB: R. Wilson and Tyrod Taylor

Not sure how much an upgrade Newton is. Been better than Wilson but Tyrods back and has been good when playing. On the other side Forsetts been flex and sort of a bust for where i drafted him. Was thinking plugging Williams in his spot on flex.

Thoughts? Lame trade?
Man, you have an embarrassment of riches at RB, nice job. I think Cam is a solid upgrade over Tyrod (too inconsistent) and Russ (not passing enough to Jimmy, they still rely on the run heavily hence inconsistency). Cam has the equivalent of 20+ more points (1 week's worth of production) than Russ and has a much more favorable schedule. Here is his remaining schedule:
9 Nov 8 GB Sun 1:00 pm *24.05 - - - - -
10 Nov 15 @Ten Sun 1:00 pm *20.80 - - - - -
11 Nov 22 Was Sun 1:00 pm *22.68 - - - - -
12 Nov 26 @Dal Thu 4:30 pm *21.28 - - - - -
13 Dec 6 @NO Sun 1:00 pm *26.90 - - - - -
14 Dec 13 Atl Sun 1:00 pm *24.28 - - - - -
15 Dec 20 @NYG Sun 1:00 pm *25.31 - - - - -
16 Dec 27 @Atl Sun 1:00 pm *24.28 -

vs Russ:
9 BYE - - - - - - - -
10 Nov 15 Ari Sun 8:30 pm *20.84 - - - - -
11 Nov 22 SF Sun 4:25 pm *22.12 - - - - -
12 Nov 29 Pit Sun 4:25 pm *18.22 - - - - -
13 Dec 6 @Min Sun 1:00 pm *19.06 - - - - -
14 Dec 13 @Bal Sun 8:30 pm *20.78 - - - - -
15 Dec 20 Cle Sun 4:05 pm *20.18 - - - - -
16 Dec 27 StL Sun 4:25 pm *17.33 -

Russ' only easy games left are SF and CLE. Ari, Pit(b/c they can stop the run), Min, @Bal(tough place to win & they can stuff the run), and StL.

While Deangelo is a very talented back I think Ivory and AP are better and then you have TJ/Forsett (TJ just as good as Deangelo, Forsett slight step down) to back up Ivory in case of an injury. This is assuming you start 2 RBs. Getting Cam for a WW pickup backup RB would solidify your QB and wouldn't weaken you.
 
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pete6032

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Post the rest of your team and we'll see what kind of depth you have at the WR/RB position. Lacy is trending up now, but Cooper has been great the whole season.

I am quite short at RB at the moment.
QB: Drew Brees
WR: Julio Jones
WR: Amari Cooper
RB: Jeremy Hill
TE: Greg Olsen
Flex WR/RB: Rishard Matthews
BN: Ben Roethlisberger
BN: Ronnie Hillman
BN: Jordan Matthews
BN: Antonio Gates
BN: Carlos Hyde
 

glenn1

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Really liking some of the prices on DFS sites this weekend. Rivers is well underpriced at $6,900 as is Cutler for $5,200. For position players, JStew is cheap at $4,300, Malcolm Floyd criminally underpriced at $3,900; and Jordan Reed at $4,500 is way too good to pass up.
 

pete6032

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Need to start two of these guys:
DeSean Jackson vs. NO
Rishard Matthews vs. PHI
Willie Snead vs. WAS
 

Kelvrick

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Need to start two of these guys:
DeSean Jackson vs. NO
Rishard Matthews vs. PHI
Willie Snead vs. WAS

I'd say Rishard and Willie. I just can't trust DeSean this year. For all I know, he'll leave half way through the game with another injury. Not to mention Cousins. I'd say only play him if you're desperate for a lot of points as they try to keep up with NO by airing it out.
 

maddogchen

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Alright people, need some help deciding.

Which 3 Running backs to start? I got 6 to chose from.
I'm thinking:

M. Ingram vs Was (Was defense terrible, but then Brees throws a lot so don't know)
D. Murray vs Mia (Mia defense terrible)
K. Williams vs NYJ (this guy scores a TD each game he's played.

Sit
J. Langford vs Stl (st louis is tough on D)
J. Stewart vs Ten (Ten is dough on D and Cam steals his tds)
J. Starks vs Det (I really don't know about this guy because of his partner Ed Lacy)

What you think?
 

SP33Demon

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Alright people, need some help deciding.

Which 3 Running backs to start? I got 6 to chose from.
I'm thinking:

M. Ingram vs Was (Was defense terrible, but then Brees throws a lot so don't know)
D. Murray vs Mia (Mia defense terrible)
K. Williams vs NYJ (this guy scores a TD each game he's played.

Sit
J. Langford vs Stl (st louis is tough on D)
J. Stewart vs Ten (Ten is dough on D and Cam steals his tds)
J. Starks vs Det (I really don't know about this guy because of his partner Ed Lacy)

What you think?

Not bad, but it wouldn't be surprising if Karlos gets shut out this week. Plus the Jets are monsters on run D, as in better than even St.L. I like JStew vs Ten better, Ten's run D isn't good at all. Their strength is rushing the passer, and don't be surprised if Carolina is up in this game which means more garbage time rushing for JStew, not to mention that Carolina has been no huddling a lot against Green Bay (albeit at home). Also keep in mind that Green Bay huddles a shitload at home which could mean more touches for Starks who was named the starter today. Overall I like JStew over Karlos though - more volume vs a weaker run D. I'll take high volume points vs a weak D over a TD bet any day of the week - especially for a rb who is due for a TD regression like Karlos.
 

SP33Demon

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Jun 22, 2001
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Karlos scored again (on a pass, not run tho). Tied the historic rate of TDs scored in first 6 games, and could break the record next game. Wow. Although outside of the TD he still didn't do much, it was all shady last night.
 

kstu

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SP33Demon, thoughts on MIN@OAK? Safe to trust Carr/Cooper/Crabtree who have been surprisingly matchup-proof? Is the Vikings DEF good enough to stop them or simply a product of a weak schedule? We all know the Raiders can't stop anything so should be fairly high scoring I would think (assuming Teddy is good to go).
 

T2urtle

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Glad decker got going towards the end. I looked before the half and only had 1.7 pts, I was cursing up a storm.
 

SP33Demon

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SP33Demon, thoughts on MIN@OAK? Safe to trust Carr/Cooper/Crabtree who have been surprisingly matchup-proof? Is the Vikings DEF good enough to stop them or simply a product of a weak schedule? We all know the Raiders can't stop anything so should be fairly high scoring I would think (assuming Teddy is good to go).
Yes, I'm starting Carr in my 14man league where I'm in first place. The mid week quad tweak was worrisome for Cooper and Latavius (concussion) but seems like both are reported ok now.

On paper:
Oakland offense is usually tough at home and were able to perform relatively well against Denver when they were at full force (Demarcus Ware, Talib, Shane Ray) earlier in the year. Cooper and Crabtree are forecasted to be open at will in plus matchups against Rhodes/Newman while Roberts will be swallowed by the superb Munnerlyn in the slot (nickel D only). LB Anthony Barr has also been superb and he seems to line up on the left side (crabtree). This is looking to be a game where cooper can exploit soft areas where Barr is not near (and the other 2 LBs are). Harrison Smith has also been awesome at safety so I wouldn't expect much deep outside of blown coverages unless it's against the horrid Sendejo (usually on cooper's side). Also watch out for Linval Joseph who was a FORCE against St.L last week. One important thing to note is that Minnesota has had trouble stopping the run (25th DVOA) so Oakland should pound it and keep that pass rush honest.

On D, Khalil Mack is also a force of nature (pass rush and rush d) and Edwards/Aldon Smith/Williams should get some penetration in base D although the Vikings front only has 2 weak pts (Clemmings and Fusco). However, Oakland's LBs/CBs are not good and Diggs and co should be able to get open at will. All receivers have plus matchups if Teddy's pocket can stay upright (not a given since he likes to take sacks lol). And remember what Antonio Brown did to Oakland's corners/lb's? Mike Wallace compared Diggs to Antonio Brown earlier in the season so... yeah. I'm expecting some big plays from Diggs or if they neutralize him then Wallace/Wright. Oakland's pass rush is going to bring the heat at home so Minny will have to keep them honest by running AP a bunch. The problem with that is Oakland has the goods to somewhat stop the run (13th DVOA).

All in all, this will be a fantastic game to watch and I think Minny has the defensive goods to stop Oakland with the big interception (Carr's only weakness), but Carr and co are playing at too high a level to not do well for most of the game. Carr is a top 5 real life and fantasy QB so far with 2 top 20 WRs, and a top 15 RB. Just don't expect the same performance as last week, temper expectations a tad.
 
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maddogchen

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Karlos scored again (on a pass, not run tho). Tied the historic rate of TDs scored in first 6 games, and could break the record next game. Wow. Although outside of the TD he still didn't do much, it was all shady last night.

Yeah, his one catch got him a TD. But i still think your advice is sound, so I'm hoping that J.Stewart gets more points than him.
 

spacejamz

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Hope I don't regret rolling the dice on Kirk Cousins vs NO this week....

Ryan is on a bye this week so my choices were Cousins, Hoyer, Manziel, Mariota, Jones (PIT), Cassel, Foles and Winston :(
 

SP33Demon

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SP33Demon, thoughts on MIN@OAK? Safe to trust Carr/Cooper/Crabtree who have been surprisingly matchup-proof? Is the Vikings DEF good enough to stop them or simply a product of a weak schedule? We all know the Raiders can't stop anything so should be fairly high scoring I would think (assuming Teddy is good to go).

So a quick update on this. Winds are now forecast at around 25mph so the passing game could be interesting for Carr. If you have another solid option like Bortles, I'd start them instead but I know it's a tough bye week. I'll have to suck it up and start Carr. Kickers Walsh and Janikowski should be avoided on all teams.
 

spacejamz

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Hope I don't regret rolling the dice on Kirk Cousins vs NO this week....

Ryan is on a bye this week so my choices were Cousins, Hoyer, Manziel, Mariota, Jones (PIT), Cassel, Foles and Winston :(

Not bad Kirk....not bad at all :)