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digiram

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Both the Titans and Jaguars are terrible options, but out of the two, Sankey is the better long term pickup. As for dropping Cousins, no he isn't. He still has weapons and the yardage, you need to wait for more bad games.

Agreed..

I'm in kind of a tough spot. Peyton v AZ or Big Ben v Jagz? Peyton is usually a 3 TD gaurantee, but Jagz D is making every QB look like Peyton and then some. Also, Big Ben was a nice pick up for me against TB durring Peyton bye. Should I just flip a coin or ask the magic 8 ball?
 

digiram

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I sweaked out a 2 point comeback win because of Charles.

Gratz..

I was up 30 + Edlement left though, and up against just Charles. I thought it would be a cakewalk, but I should've known. This happened to me last year when Andre Johnson went off on a Sunday or Monday night with 3 TD+++.

Speaking of A. Johnson, I'm inclined to finally start my sleeper pickup over him since the Panthers are playing a depleted Bears secondary. On second thought, I might sit Edlemen V Bengals D. Always so much to think of with this fantasy stuff.
 

shocksyde

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Agreed..

I'm in kind of a tough spot. Peyton v AZ or Big Ben v Jagz? Peyton is usually a 3 TD gaurantee, but Jagz D is making every QB look like Peyton and then some. Also, Big Ben was a nice pick up for me against TB durring Peyton bye. Should I just flip a coin or ask the magic 8 ball?

I think you always go with Peyton.
 

SP33Demon

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I think you always go with Peyton.

Second this. Jax is 7th worst in Run D and Pitt 4th worst. With Leveon Bell just killing it, they'll probably be running the ball more and it could mean a big day for Bell or Blount or both. Jax will probably WANT to (or wish they could) run the ball, but their line is so bad I doubt their opponent's run D rank will even matter.

AZ/DEN is just the opposite, AZ rounds out the top 10 in run D so expect more aerial attack than ground game from the Broncos. AZ's pass coverage got smoked at the ILB position so Peyton and co. should eat at will in the shorter area of the field. Deeper out you have to worry about Peterson and Cromartie and SS Jefferson who have been good. Anyone in the slot for Denver should do well, Stevie Johnson and Crabtree destroyed them in AZ's last game.
 

SP33Demon

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Any glaring errors here? I'm inclined to bench Asiata in favor of Brian Quick due to the fact I don't think Asiata is going to keep it up.

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He may not, but with Teddy on a shortened week with a semi-sprained ankle from Sunday, the Vikings may go to the ground more. Not to mention that the Packers are dead last in Run D grading. Dead last! GB is peeking just outside the top 10 in Pass Rush and MN's Oline has been mediocre/subpar, so that may give MN even more incentive to establish ground game.

I'm FLEXing Asiata in one league and not looking back. There is a risk that McKinnon gets taken off the chain (i.e. dominates carries), but the matchup is too good for Asiata, especially after last week.
 
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shocksyde

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He may not, but with Teddy on a shortened week with a semi-sprained ankle from Sunday, the Vikings may go to the ground more. Not to mention that the Packers are dead last in Run D grading. Dead last! GB is peeking just outside the top 10 in Pass Rush and MN's Oline has been mediocre/subpar, so that may give MN even more incentive to establish ground game.

I'm FLEXing Asiata in one league and not looking back. There is a risk that McKinnon gets taken off the chain (i.e. dominates carries), but the matchup is too good for Asiata, especially after last week.

You are a wise man.

I also forgot to mention this a PPR league.
 
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I have to choose between Rodgers and Big Ben this week.

Green Bay vs Minesota And Pitt vs Jacksonville.

Here's the deal. I know Big Ben should easily get over 15 points versus Jacksonville. Probably 20+.

Rodgers on the other hand might have trouble against Minnesota. He might get 10. He should get 15-25. Maybe 30. Big Ben is probably not nearing 30 at all.

So, you can gamble and get a little extra out of Rodgers. Or you can guarantee some good points out of Big Ben and not worry about it.

People need to consider mathups. Blindly saying that you need to use your QB1 is ignorant. In my case, Minnesota has allowed 21 PPG. The Jags, 38 ppg.

To the person above with a similar issue. Arizona has allowed an average of 15 PPG.
 
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SP33Demon

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You are a wise man.

I also forgot to mention this a PPR league.

Well McKinnon did catch 1 reception on 3 targets, but Asiata had 3 receptions on 3 targets. McKinnon's pass pro still is not fully developed, and he is also a little dinged up with his ankle so Asiata should get more carries for at least this week.

Keep in mind that the Pack's worst Run D is a small sample size that could be skewed by good thrashings from Lynch and Forte (two studs). However, in their other 2 games (NYJ, @DET) their run D was very average. One thing to note is that the left side of their line (in even those 2 games) were bad - LE Datone Jones is clearly having trouble stopping the run along with not much better LE Boyd. LOLB Clay Matthews has been a liability in 3 games vs the run; NT Guion has been bad in all games vs the run. Those 3 positions are most likely where MN will attack.
 

SP33Demon

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I have to choose between Rodgers and Big Ben this week.

Green Bay vs Minesota And Pitt vs Jacksonville.

Here's the deal. I know Big Ben should easily get over 15 points versus Jacksonville. Probably 20+.

Rodgers on the other hand might have trouble against Minnesota. He might get 10. He should get 15-25. Maybe 30. Big Ben is probably not nearing 30 at all.

So, you can gamble and get a little extra out of Rodgers. Or you can guarantee some good points out of Big Ben and not worry about it.

People need to consider mathups. Blindly saying that you need to use your QB1 is ignorant. In my case, Minnesota has allowed 21 PPG. The Jags, 38 ppg.

To the person above with a similar issue. Arizona has allowed an average of 15 PPG.

It should be a no brainer to start Rodgers over Ben. Looking at PPG doesn't take into account bend but don't break defenses. A lot of fantasy points can be scored in that bending.

Further dissecting the matchup, Edelman and Cooks had decent outings against Minny's secondary. Rhodes did well against Roddy/Julio/Hester (defended 4 passes out of 11) but ATL doesn't really have a back that can keep them honest like Lacy. MN is above average against the run, but they really haven't faced anyone on Cobb/Jordy's elite talent level yet. Green Bay's pass blocking has been holding up, there is no reason for Rodgers not to beat this secondary.

Regarding the statement that you always start your studs, it's true. The only defense that would give me pause is Seattle, @Seattle. Even then I started Jordy and he did fine despite missing 2 TD's by an inch. Minnesota is nowhere even close to Seattle's level. Saying that you should never start Rodgers is laughable, especially at Lambeau. The only reason you wouldn't start Rodgers is if all of his weapons are second string (like Matt Ryan last year) or other variables (like McCoy missing 3 stud run blockers from last year) or the weather (Calvin Johnson in the snowstorm last year).

The only position I'd give pause for studs = the RB position with a so-so to shitty Oline vs a studly Run D (like Forte vs NYJ 2 weeks ago). Then I'd see if there is an amazing RB2 (not RB3) matchup on my bench that could be worth taking a risk on. 9 times out of 10 you're still going with your studs.
 

SP33Demon

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Bishop Sankey to get more touches this week, it's official. Glad I picked him up early this morning as a FA.
 
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If Foster is 100%, you always start your studs. Dallas is very susceptible to the run (i.e. worst 5 so far).

Asiata has a very very good matchup but he's not going to dominate carries like Foster.

Problem is that Foster is almost never close to 100%...
 

pete6032

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Pierre Garcon vs. Seahawks or Brandon Marshall (Ankle) versus Carolina?
 

Uppsala9496

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I think you have to take Marshall. Carolina's defense have been pretty atrocious the last 2 weeks.
 

thestrangebrew1

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Here's my lineup:



I need to do something about my RBs. Here's who's available:



Thinking of dropping Pierre Thomas, but not sure who to pick up.
 

Uppsala9496

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Sankey for the long term. He will be the starter in about 2-3 weeks.
I'd rather have Robinson than Thomas. NO's offense is a bit of a mess right now.
 

glenn1

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Sankey for the long term. He will be the starter in about 2-3 weeks.
I'd rather have Robinson than Thomas. NO's offense is a bit of a mess right now.

I'd say Ryan Mathews is the better long term solution than Sankey. Short term OP can switch out Ivory and Crowell since it looks like Ben Tate may be back this week.
 

thestrangebrew1

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Isn't Matthews always hurt though? I don't recall him doing much last year either, but I could be mistaken.
 

JujuFish

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I'm wondering if I should pick up Sankey and drop Spiller or Pierre Thomas. PPR league. Thoughts?
 

rcpratt

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He may not, but with Teddy on a shortened week with a semi-sprained ankle from Sunday, the Vikings may go to the ground more. Not to mention that the Packers are dead last in Run D grading. Dead last! GB is peeking just outside the top 10 in Pass Rush and MN's Oline has been mediocre/subpar, so that may give MN even more incentive to establish ground game.

I'm FLEXing Asiata in one league and not looking back. There is a risk that McKinnon gets taken off the chain (i.e. dominates carries), but the matchup is too good for Asiata, especially after last week.
Looks like PPR? If so I'd take Quick, barely. If not, definitely Asiata.
 

Uppsala9496

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I joined again. Right now we are at 4.
Not nearly as confident this week as I was last.
 

KeithTalent

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In. 5 entries. Hopefully I will do better than last week. :|

KT
 

SP33Demon

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Looks like PPR? If so I'd take Quick, barely. If not, definitely Asiata.

Yeah that's a tough call. I'm high on Quick, funny that you mentioned him - just picked him up as a FA along with Sankey (dropped J.Hill and A.Robinson). I think both Quick and Asiata have great matchups, Philly's D is decent except for CB's Williams and Fletcher which can be exploited by Quick, although StL will have to be mindful of Philly's SS Malcolm Jenkins who is a stud (as well as Slot Cornerback Boykin). I think St.L will be able to get some 10+ midrange passes to Quick in 1 on 1 coverage and be successful. Also, Austin Davis has been one of the most accurate passers through a small sample size (100 snaps) so Quick's QB is decent and StL has had success running the ball with a good run blocking line.

Asiata is more of a bet for a TD so yes, Quick for PPR and Asiata for Standard. Hopefully the whole "RBs-perform-worse-in-Thursday-games" bug doesn't hit Asiata. We'll see tonight.