***Official*** 2012 Stock Market Thread

[FelixDeCat]

BAC to $12

 

[IHateMyJob2004]

RIMM earnings after close .... yawn .... they don't matter right now. Only thing that matters is if they say anything about BB10 and the global subscriber numbers are important. We'll have to see if this dead company has grown ... again ... in terms of subscribe count. Also curious if FCF continues it's march upward.

 

[IHateMyJob2004]

Rimm closed today at 14.12

I think that is the highest close since the bottom.

 

[IHateMyJob2004]

RIMM beats, goes from $14 to $15. 5:50 PM hits and it is off the after hours highs of $15+. To $14.35 or so. Now a 6:03 ir is at $12.95.

Doing awesome ... Doing awesome ... Doing awesome ... Doing awesome ... POOOP?

?!?!? confused ?!?!?

Anways, I usually call AH amateur hours. We'll see where it opens on Friday.

 

[IHateMyJob2004]

RIMM now down to $12.50 in after hours.

I guess tehy are having trouble answering some specific questions during the CC.

 

[TheBDB]

If I am very confident that I will be in a lower tax bracket this year than in the next couple years, does it make sense for me to realize some of my gains now? If I still want to hold the same things I can just buy them back after I sell, right?

I'm just trying to make sure I'm not missing something.

 

[Imp]

If I am very confident that I will be in a lower tax bracket this year than in the next couple years, does it make sense for me to realize some of my gains now? If I still want to hold the same things I can just buy them back after I sell, right?

I'm just trying to make sure I'm not missing something.

My trading philosophy is "fuck the taxes". If I'm making money, then the taxes are a cost of doing business. Of course, I may be losing money to the guberment if I time everything right, but I already receive a preferential tax rate on capital gains and dividends, so meh. I also live in Canada, so we are bred to bend over for guberment...

As long as you aren't losing money, buying back doesn't seem like a problem -- you pay tax on gains no matter what. The problem is if you sell to get the tax benefit, then buy it back. Check what your wash sale (sell?) length is. Last I checked, I think if I sell a holding, I can not buy the exact holding back within 30 days, or it's counted as a wash sale and a loss is no longer tax deductible.

 

[DaWhim]

If I am very confident that I will be in a lower tax bracket this year than in the next couple years, does it make sense for me to realize some of my gains now? If I still want to hold the same things I can just buy them back after I sell, right?

I'm just trying to make sure I'm not missing something.

how low of the bracket are we talking about? I bet you should realize some gains for tax purposes before the year end.

read the table, you will understand.....it depends on your tax bracket, but you will definitely pay more next year for long term cap gains.
http://www.bankrate.com/finance/taxes/no-capital-gains-due-for-some-investors-1.aspx

 

[JTsyo]

If I am very confident that I will be in a lower tax bracket this year than in the next couple years, does it make sense for me to realize some of my gains now? If I still want to hold the same things I can just buy them back after I sell, right?

I'm just trying to make sure I'm not missing something.

Have you already held the stocks in question for a year? If not you might not want to sell since you wouldn't get the 15% rate. (Not an expert in the matter but that's what I've seen)

 

[Kroze]

????

 

[DaTT]

Investors finally realized that Ford's are indestructible.

 

[SandEagle]

they sold 2 cars this month

 

[RaistlinZ]

they sold 2 cars this month

:biggrin:

 

[Engineer]

Ford is up 40+% from it's low of 8.83 just a few month ago. The reason that I know this is that I thought about buying it at the price of 8.83 that very day. Throw in the nearly 2% dividend.... Am I kicking myself? You be the judge......

*sigh*

 

[brianmanahan]

i bought it at 1.60$ :awe:

unfortunately i only bought 300$ worth D:

 

[AmdEmAll]

i bought it at 1.60$ :awe:

unfortunately i only bought 300$ worth D:

I have 300 shares at around that

Good to see its finally moving up. Its a very undervalued stock. I see it being up to its 52 week high in a few months.

 

[brianmanahan]

I have 300 shares at around that

Good to see its finally moving up. Its a very undervalued stock. I see it being up to its 52 week high in a few months.

i finally sold at about 10$ and just bought some international small cap, VSS

made some decent money on some individual stocks, lost money on others. all told, didn't do as well as an index fund. i dont have individual stock evaluation skills so i am just sticking to index funds now.

 

[AmdEmAll]

i finally sold at about 10$ and just bought some international small cap, VSS

made some decent money on some individual stocks, lost money on others. all told, didn't do as well as an index fund. i dont have individual stock evaluation skills so i am just sticking to index funds now.

Whatever you do stay away from penny stocks... I lost my ass on those.

 

[brianmanahan]

Whatever you do stay away from penny stocks... I lost my **s on those.

lol, i lost about 400$ on one of them, a mining company

it was then i learned that a mining penny stock is just a guy with a hole in the ground :'(

all things considered though, id much rather learn the lesson with 400$ than with 40$k :awe:

 

[OverVolt]

I've always thought ford would win out over GM, if they had a fight to the death. Ford has been able to better modernize their cars. Smaller engines that are actually designed to be a small well running engine from the ground up etc. Not just some afterthought shoved into the Aveo.

Think like Aveo or Sonic vs Fiesta. Been liking ford more and more lately.

 

[IGBT]

they are dumping their line of hybrid junk.

 

[paperfist]

they are dumping their line of hybrid junk.

Looks like they are expanding the heck out of it...

I wonder how much their stock would go up if they ever released a new Ranger?

 

[Pocatello]

I think Ford has done well with several new models. Lincoln is still questionable, most of Lincoln buyers are previous Ford owners, not converts from other brands.

 

[OverVolt]

The real answer is probably something like an EPS leak or executives buying the stock knowing sales are going good, and then HFT's ramping up the momentum. The market is dumb like that.

 

[OCGuy]

Because we are trading the '11 in my sig for a '13.