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ichy

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The Steelers could still stumble into a wild card spot. Four of their next five games are against mediocre teams, although the Bengals seem to be bouncing back. Catching the Ravens for the division lead will be close to impossible without a big upset in Baltimore next week.
 

SSSnail

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and why was that?

at least he was lucky enough to get a lot of money his early years cuz he may be unemployed next year (i think he only has a year contract). that'll give him plenty of time to spend with his raiderette wife and kid:

http://www.iqvideography.com/blog/2...x-the-palace-hotel-wedding-san-francisco.html

His first year he didn't play a full year, then comes injuries, then another half season, then different offensive schemes every year, different coach every year Harbaugh, which is still one year, and into his second consecutive year with the same coach.

Know the facts before you speak, but I highly doubt you'd care either way.
 
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AMDZen

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Definitely wasn't my best week in pick 'em

Not the Broncos best week either, but a win is a win
 

ichy

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Philip Rivers is a classless sore loser.

http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/...ct-to-rices-big-play-20121125,0,1044216.story

"He did not get the first down. They just did not have a view to overturn it. He did not get it. You can't help it. When you don't have a view to overturn it, you cannot overturn it. I do not think anyone thinks he got it. I do not think anyone in the stadium thinks he got it. I do not think Ray Rice thinks he got it. I do not think anyone on their team thinks he got it. But he got it. They just did not have a camera view to overturn it. That's what the referee said. He felt bad that they could not because he did not have a view. He knew his knee was down on the 35-yard line."
 

AMDZen

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You can consider Seahawk season over. Both cornerbacks suspended.

It hasn't happened yet

Richard Sherman and Brandon Browner are facing four-game suspensions for violating the NFL's policy against performance-enhancing substances. Both players are accused of taking Adderall and are appealing the potential suspensions, according to a source with knowledge of the ruling.

And if it does, they might appeal it and get it lessened or even drag it out to affect them at the beginning of next season
 

AstroManLuca

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Definitely wasn't my best week in pick 'em

Not the Broncos best week either, but a win is a win

I got a nice late surge in my picks. Got St. Louis, San Francisco, and New York all correct to get me into 5th place this week (6th overall) in the ATOT pick'em group. And nailed both the highest and lowest scoring tiebreakers (so far) this week.
 
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May be best for all parties.

I really think Harbaugh made the wrong move. When the Saints defense holds you to 17 points, I think something is wrong offensively. The 49er defense bailed him out, but I guess that is the life of a SF quarterback.

The niners offense did very well I thought, and Kaepernick played great, especially considering all the penalties/calls that wiped out big plays/killed drives. Keep in mind that the 2 pick-sixes also takes away possessions from the SF offense, and that 2 field goals were missed.
 

AstroManLuca

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He's just saying what everybody except Ravens fans know. He didn't get the first down. I'd be pissed too if I were Rivers.

Wrong, he made the first down. You don't go by where the knee was, you go by where the ball was when the knee was down. Rice was stretched out forward with the ball over the line when he went down. Even little Ray Rice measures more than one yard from his knee to the end of his outstretched arm.

The Steelers could still stumble into a wild card spot. Four of their next five games are against mediocre teams, although the Bengals seem to be bouncing back. Catching the Ravens for the division lead will be close to impossible without a big upset in Baltimore next week.

Bengals are on an up swing with Andy Dalton playing the best football of his career. Steelers are on a down swing and depending on their awful third string QB. I don't see how the Steelers can possibly edge out the Bengals for a wild card.

And their schedule is almost exactly the same. Bengals play Chargers, Cowboys, Eagles, Steelers, Ravens. Steelers play Ravens, Chargers, Cowboys, Bengals, Browns. Considering the Steelers just lost to the Browns, there's very little hope for their season if Big Ben doesn't come back.

The niners offense did very well I thought, and Kaepernick played great, especially considering all the penalties/calls that wiped out big plays/killed drives. Keep in mind that the 2 pick-sixes also takes away possessions from the SF offense, and that 2 field goals were missed.

Yeah, there's no need to pile on 60+ points when you're up by two TDs in the third quarter. The offense did a great job keeping pace with the Saints. Had those INTs not been returned for touchdowns, the offense would still have gotten at least a couple field goals from them.
 

Imported

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The niners offense did very well I thought, and Kaepernick played great, especially considering all the penalties/calls that wiped out big plays/killed drives. Keep in mind that the 2 pick-sixes also takes away possessions from the SF offense, and that 2 field goals were missed.

And they went conservative after they were up.

I see Smith starting next week. Just based on the comments JH made.. but we'll see.
 

BergeLSU

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The niners offense did very well I thought, and Kaepernick played great, especially considering all the penalties/calls that wiped out big plays/killed drives. Keep in mind that the 2 pick-sixes also takes away possessions from the SF offense, and that 2 field goals were missed.


As someone who has watched this Saints defense play 11 times, SF did not play well offensively. This was the best defensive effort of the year for the Saints, outside of the Eagles game.

Let that sink in.
 

Ricochet

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It hasn't happened yet


And if it does, they might appeal it and get it lessened or even drag it out to affect them at the beginning of next season

They could probably spin it that it was needed for ADHD (not likely). As someone who use to take Adderall, I would never have classified it a performance enhancer.
 

darkewaffle

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They could probably spin it that it was needed for ADHD (not likely). As someone who use to take Adderall, I would never have classified it a performance enhancer.

I've never used it myself, but I know in college there were a number of students who liked to take "Addys" before tests, while studying or when working late. I think the perception at least is it provides improved mental capabilities.
 

zinfamous

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As someone who has watched this Saints defense play 11 times, SF did not play well offensively. This was the best defensive effort of the year for the Saints, outside of the Eagles game.

Let that sink in.

Yeah, when you compare last night to what the Niners did the week before against the Bears D, it has to be seen as poor offense overall.

Holding Brees to 21, at home, though....that's pretty impressive.
 
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As someone who has watched this Saints defense play 11 times, SF did not play well offensively. This was the best defensive effort of the year for the Saints, outside of the Eagles game.

Let that sink in.

Hey, say whatever you want to say. But New Orleans picked it up after starting 0-4 and getting Joe Vitt back. And you'd have to consider NO's huge homefield advantage, which really affects opposing offenses. And the fact that they're coming out swinging because every game is like a playoff for them and they want revenge for last year's playoff loss.

But looking at NO's schedule, I would say NO's defense has played much better down the stretch, especially at home, where they did a pretty decent job against a really great dome offense in ATL (and dominated PHI, @OAK).

So all in all, I'm not that surprised that the NO defense played well, but I also think SF's offense looked pretty good, although sloppy, all things considered (like a 2nd year QB's first road start at the Superdome)
 

fustercluck

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Well Rice did not make the first down, though it was a great effort, the refs gave it to em' on that one. Still, chargers always suck and they should have won by then :p

Can't believe Pittsburgh had 8 turnovers and only lost by 6. What happened to Dennis Dixon? He was drafted by the Steelers a while back. Pittsburgh lacking a good backup QB.

Looks like a pretty dreadful game tonight. Eagles and Panthers have both been horrible.
 

darkewaffle

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Can't believe Pittsburgh had 8 turnovers and only lost by 6. What happened to Dennis Dixon? He was drafted by the Steelers a while back. Pittsburgh lacking a good backup QB.

I wondered about that too, the only meaningful game I remember with him was against the Ravens 2-3 years ago almost exactly the same time of year but I recall him doing pretty decently in spite of a loss. Seems he was let go at some point and has been bouncing around the Ravens practice squad lately.

Feels like all the good back up QBs are the young guys and not the veterans.
 

dbk

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After two thirds of the season can anyone deny Tom Brady is the MVP?

What about Peyton Manning? Turned around a team that would've prob finished 3rd in their division?
Matty Ice? 10-1, tied for best in the NFL..
If the Saints can make the wildcard, Drew Brees? More TDs, Yds than Brady..

also because I'm a homer, if the Skins make the playoffs somehow-RG3??
 

Imported

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Ugh.. Kyle Williams with a torn ACL. :(

Well.. I guess we might see our first round pick finally be activated.
 

JD50

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Yeah. The defense is playing lights out. The ravens and browns should both be embarrassed by those wins. The offense is absolutely terrible without Ben though. By the time he comes back it might be too late to salvage the season.

lol, bitter steelers fans make these wins so much better. I'll take an embarrassing win over an embarrassing loss any time. You guys act like you were lighting the world on fire with Ben at QB, which was clearly not the case.