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[eits]

The only two active RBs she has this week are AP and Fred Jackson. She'll be fine, but most of her bench is on bye this week. Already has Amendola sitting on the bench out for the next few weeks. Hopefully Nicks will play this week, since he was a waiver snag this morning. 🙂

lol @ the idiot who dropped nicks and how he wasn't picked up until just this morning

 

[MetalMat]

.5 ppr 16 team league QB RB RB WR WR/TE WR/RB K DEF
QB Rivers Freeman
RB McFadden Lynch Bradshaw Leshoure Hillman
WR Demaryius Thomas Kendall Wright Titus Young
TE Gonzalez Finley

Its basically Lynch for Brees

Thats a decent team for a 16 team league. I hate .5 ppr leagues, either go 1 ppr or nothing.
Anyways I am guessing right now this is what your Team will be this week as of right now.

QB: Rivers. RB: McFadden, Bradshaw. WR: Thomas. WR/TE: Gonzalez. WR/RB: Lynch.

Manningham and the rest of your bench would be an obvious downgrade from Lynch. Plus you would role into week 6 with Freeman.

Personally I would not do it. McFadden and Bradshaw are injury risks plus you are gambling on the fact that Leshoure, Hillman, Wright or Young is going to be a solid starter later in the season. Rivers is not having the best season in the world but I don't see the gap between him and Drew Brees being as big as it was last year.

Either way I understand if you want to take the trade

 

[eits]

ok, i don't know which qb to start...

eli manning @ sf
kevin kolb vs buffalo in arizona
philip rivers vs denver in san diego

if nicks is playing, eli is tempting because he puts up so many points and they're not gonna get anywhere running the ball against sf run defense. i anticipate eli to throw all day long.

however, denver has a crap defense, but rivers is inconsistent. i can't trust him to be the same rivers he was against the saints.

kolb is going against the worst pass defense in the league, but he's got the worst offensive line in the league...

i'm leaning toward manning...

 

[dbk]

Thats a decent team for a 16 team league. I hate .5 ppr leagues, either go 1 ppr or nothing.
Anyways I am guessing right now this is what your Team will be this week as of right now.

QB: Rivers. RB: McFadden, Bradshaw. WR: Thomas. WR/TE: Gonzalez. WR/RB: Lynch.

Manningham and the rest of your bench would be an obvious downgrade from Lynch. Plus you would role into week 6 with Freeman.

Personally I would not do it. McFadden and Bradshaw are injury risks plus you are gambling on the fact that Leshoure, Hillman, Wright or Young is going to be a solid starter later in the season. Rivers is not having the best season in the world but I don't see the gap between him and Drew Brees being as big as it was last year.

Either way I understand if you want to take the trade

Hmmm i took the deal... yeah i had some injury concerns but oh well.. but Lynch has some lingering issues with back spasms as well though

 

[AstroManLuca]

lol @ the idiot who dropped nicks and how he wasn't picked up until just this morning

This morning is when waiver claims were processed. You can't just pick up a guy the instant he's dropped.

But yes, it is crazy to drop Nicks. Unless you're in a 6-team league with limited bench space where every single player you have is a fantasy stud, there's just no way you don't have a crummy player somewhere you can drop instead.

I dropped Chris Johnson after week 3. Almost regretted it after a strong week 4 performance, but he showed his true colors in week 5. I'll let him ruin someone else's team from now on.

EDIT: Also, Christian Ponder is a better and more consistent fantasy QB than Brandon Weeden. Ponder has averaged 15 points per game and his worst game was 5 points, Weeden has only averaged 11 points per game and had a -1 point stinker in week 1. Ponder has had three games of 15 points or more while Weeden has only had two. And even if you exclude Weeden's first game, he's still averaging fewer points than Ponder.

The difference is in their receivers. Like you said, Ponder makes short throws. Short throws are completed more reliably (Ponder has one of the best completion rates in the NFL) and his top receiver, Percy Harvin, is an incredible yards-after-catch guy. Fantasy doesn't care if you get your yards by throwing deep or throwing short and running. Weeden's receivers have a bad case of the drops. Well, Greg Little does, I don't know about the others.

The one bright spot for Weeden is his team's defense is worse, thus forcing him to throw more. Ponder's worst game came in a win against Detroit because Minnesota had two return touchdowns and didn't need to try to come back from behind.

 

[eits]

This morning is when waiver claims were processed. You can't just pick up a guy the instant he's dropped.

But yes, it is crazy to drop Nicks. Unless you're in a 6-team league with limited bench space where every single player you have is a fantasy stud, there's just no way you don't have a crummy player somewhere you can drop instead.

I dropped Chris Johnson after week 3. Almost regretted it after a strong week 4 performance, but he showed his true colors in week 5. I'll let him ruin someone else's team from now on.

i was saying it was stupid how he wasn't picked up until just this morning... why wasn't he picked up last week or the week before that or whenever he was dropped originally? it can't be that someone dropped him a week before he would be healthy enough for play.

i was trying to trade backups i had on bench for chris johnson just in case the offensive line over in tennessee got their shit together, but canceled the trade because fuck it.

 

[eits]

EDIT: Also, Christian Ponder is a better and more consistent fantasy QB than Brandon Weeden. Ponder has averaged 15 points per game and his worst game was 5 points, Weeden has only averaged 11 points per game and had a -1 point stinker in week 1. Ponder has had three games of 15 points or more while Weeden has only had two. And even if you exclude Weeden's first game, he's still averaging fewer points than Ponder.

The difference is in their receivers. Like you said, Ponder makes short throws. Short throws are completed more reliably (Ponder has one of the best completion rates in the NFL) and his top receiver, Percy Harvin, is an incredible yards-after-catch guy. Fantasy doesn't care if you get your yards by throwing deep or throwing short and running. Weeden's receivers have a bad case of the drops. Well, Greg Little does, I don't know about the others.

The one bright spot for Weeden is his team's defense is worse, thus forcing him to throw more. Ponder's worst game came in a win against Detroit because Minnesota had two return touchdowns and didn't need to try to come back from behind.

all great points. we'll see how it all turns out on sunday.

 

[AstroManLuca]

i was saying it was stupid how he wasn't picked up until just this morning... why wasn't he picked up last week or the week before that or whenever he was dropped originally? it can't be that someone dropped him a week before he would be healthy enough for play.

i was trying to trade backups i had on bench for chris johnson just in case the offensive line over in tennessee got their shit together, but canceled the trade because fuck it.

I guess it's possible that someone got sick of waiting, or maybe they got really desperate because their other good receivers have a bye this week. Byes can make people act stupid.

Oh yeah, someone dropped Aaron Hernandez in one of my leagues recently. I don't even know how long he's been available, but I picked him up. My other TE, Rudolph, doesn't have a bye until week 11 so Hernandez can take his sweet time coming back.

 

[spidey07]

QB Schaub or Flacco as QB2? Seems Schaub has a better match up with Green Bay over Flacco v DAL.

 

[eits]

ok, i don't know which qb to start...

eli manning @ sf
kevin kolb vs buffalo in arizona
philip rivers vs denver in san diego

if nicks is playing, eli is tempting because he puts up so many points and they're not gonna get anywhere running the ball against sf run defense. i anticipate eli to throw all day long.

however, denver has a crap defense, but rivers is inconsistent. i can't trust him to be the same rivers he was against the saints.

kolb is going against the worst pass defense in the league, but he's got the worst offensive line in the league...

i'm leaning toward manning...

 

[spidey07]

I would go with who you trust, and that would be manning. I wouldn't try to get too cute, you don't bench studs.

 

[MetalMat]

ok, i don't know which qb to start...

eli manning @ sf
kevin kolb vs buffalo in arizona
philip rivers vs denver in san diego

if nicks is playing, eli is tempting because he puts up so many points and they're not gonna get anywhere running the ball against sf run defense. i anticipate eli to throw all day long.

however, denver has a crap defense, but rivers is inconsistent. i can't trust him to be the same rivers he was against the saints.

kolb is going against the worst pass defense in the league, but he's got the worst offensive line in the league...

i'm leaning toward manning...

Manning all the way. You know what the ceiling for Rivers is after the Saints game and Kevin Kolb may not do anything with that terrible offensive line.

 

[The_Dude8]

Luck vs NYJ or Brady vs Seachickens?

 

[AstroManLuca]

Luck vs NYJ or Brady vs Seachickens?

I'd go back to Spidey's advice here:

I would go with who you trust, and that would be manning. I wouldn't try to get too cute, you don't bench studs.

 

[The_Dude8]

I'd go back to Spidey's advice here:

but Brady is not throwing TDs to Gonk like last year, and they do have a running game this year, and the sea chickens run D is pretty good too.

Luck is playing against a weak passing D of the jets, who lost the island.

 

[MetalMat]

but Brady is not throwing TDs to Gonk like last year, and they do have a running game this year, and the sea chickens run D is pretty good too.

Luck is playing against a weak passing D of the jets, who lost the island.

Weak pass D of the Jets? What'cha talkin' bout willis?

They are #6 in pass defense. Antonio Cromartie did a good job of shutting down Andre Johnson Monday plus I am sure Rex Ryan took a look at what Reggie Wayne did last week.

Plus doesn't the fact that the Seahawks have a good run defense make you think that the Patriots will be passing more?

 

[spidey07]

Am I stupid for not playing a kicker this week? I dropped my kicker to pick up GB RB Green, because of byes I HAD to have another RB to fill in for MJD and Michael bush (bye).

My other receivers and a single QB will cover me through week 6,7,8 which is where I'm hurting at multiple positions. If I don't play a kicker, I'll be much better set for week 7 and 8 and can play a kicker in those weeks. Bench has Hawkins, Nicks, MJD, Michael Bush and Joe Flacco. After these next two weeks I can start using them for trades as it's a 14 man 2 QB league and folks are desperate for ANY QB.

Stupid or smart? I'm down 2-3 and am playing a relatively weak team, I'm thinking more long term and closing out strong with high points.

 

[spidey07]

Also check out Colts RB Vick Ballard, Donald Brown is out for a few weeks so likely he'll get all the running touches. I'm tempted to drop GB RB Green who I spent waiver money on to get him on FA. Tempting.

Yep, grabbed Vick Ballard. He's a colt and the NYJ run defense is just too week. I only need him for a week or two. Wasted waive money but oh well, you have to take risks and grab players.

The news of Ballard only hit a few hours ago, so again if you're desparate for a RB like me worth a shot.

 

[slayer202]

Wow last nights game was a shocker points wise for me. In one league i was up on my wife by 68.92 and she had Brees and Colston. I was like i got this. She came withing .22 points of me. 125.02 vs 124.90. Wow.

And in another league i had Colston and he got me 40.1 points and i beat Slayer 131.5 vs 131.3 LOL..

Sorry Slayer 🙂

Wow Slayer lost by fractions of a point again? Damn dude... damn.

You can still hope for a stat adjustment tuesday. In the playoffs last year my opponent had me by .5 points, I was done and he had defense to play monday night. He benched his DEF thinking not risk negative points thinking he had it wrapped up. Stat adjustment gave me the win Tuesday.

HA! Stat correction to the rescue!

sorry soul :x

 

[shocksyde]

Andre Roberts, Andrew Hawkins or Jeremy Kerley in a PPR league?

I am leaning towards Roberts.

 

[spidey07]

HA! Stat correction to the rescue!

sorry soul :x

So did stat correction give you the win?

 

[SunnyD]

Andre Roberts, Andrew Hawkins or Jeremy Kerley in a PPR league?

I am leaning towards Roberts.

Andre Roberts. Buffalo's entire defense is banged up AND there are roster changes afoot this week.

Here's a quick injury list (not necessarily out, but still):
1. Kyle Williams - DL (ankle)
2. Mario Williams - DL (wrist)
3. Aaron Williams - DB (hand)
4. Mark Anderson - DL (out)
5. Spencer Johnson - DL (out)
6. Jarius Byrd - DB (chest)

Offensively the O-Line is hurt too:
1. Eric Wood - C
2. Cordy Glenn - LT (out)
3. Kraig Urbik - RG (out)
4. Chad Rheinhart - G
5. Colin Brown - G/C (IR)

Moral of the story... play ANYONE that's starting against Buffalo. Including their backup-backup-backup runningback.

 

[AMDZen]

Chris Johnson or Steven Jackson. Place your vote on which you think will get his shit together and be a viable fantasy option down the stretch

 

[AstroManLuca]

Chris Johnson or Steven Jackson. Place your vote on which you think will get his shit together and be a viable fantasy option down the stretch

Neither.

But if I had to choose which one to start for the rest of the season, it would be Steven Jackson in a heartbeat.

 

[Imported]

My teams for this year has absolutely tanked.. Oh well. Was fun while it lasted. lol