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Official 2011-2012 NBA Playoffs Thread

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vi edit said:
Yeh, I didn't see the first injury, didn't watch the game tonight. Only the 2nd one on the highlights after the game. Granger has been a punk this whole series against Lebron. Serves him right he injured himself not once, but twice against him. If the ankle was already dinged up from an earlier sprain it doesn't take much at all to make it worse.
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That's a pretty asshole thing to say dude ...
 
Awkward said:
Was this when they had all of them playing? Also, the regular season doesn't matter.
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regular season does matter when a person's making it out like the Heat has zero chance to beat either team. Bosh was playing against the Spurs, but they won by 22 points. So they'd probably had won that game even without him. Obviously having Bosh will always be better, but even if he doesn't return mho they could still beat the Spurs or the Thunder, that's assuming they make it past my Celtics.
 
QueBert said:
regular season does matter when a person's making it out like the Heat has zero chance to beat either team. Bosh was playing against the Spurs, but they won by 22 points. So they'd probably had won that game even without him. Obviously having Bosh will always be better, but even if he doesn't return mho they could still beat the Spurs or the Thunder, that's assuming they make it past my Celtics.
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That loss sparked the worst slump San Antonio had all season. Since January 30th, they've lost 7 games out of 52 played, including the 18-0 run they're currently on. In the same time frame, the Heat have lost 18 games. The Spurs are red-hot right now, and discounting them as old or over the hill is a mistake that way too many people are making. They are playing inspired team basketball and crushing their competition. Miami has a tendency to just look lost for long stretches.

I'm not saying that Miami can't beat the Spurs in a 7 game series; they can. But if you watch both teams play over the past month, there's no question who's been better; the team that hasn't lost.
 
Atomic Playboy said:
I'm not saying that Miami can't beat the Spurs in a 7 game series; they can. But if you watch both teams play over the past month, there's no question who's been better; the team that hasn't lost.
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You can compare any team on an 18-0 to every team in history and conclude that they are playing the best basketball of all time. The Heat won 21 of 22 games last season, the one loss coming by two points to the Mavs. They were playing great inspired basketball but didn't win it all.

The Rockets won 22 straight a few years back and didn't win it all. The Suns ran off 17 straight a few years back and didn't win it all. History is littered with those kinds of examples.

The Heat, Thunder, Bulls and Spurs were all vying for the best record coming into the final couple weeks of the regular season. The Spurs were 46-16, Heat were 45-17, Thunder were 45-17, and the Bulls were 47-15. Seems pretty even, right?

The Spurs and Heat packed it in and rested the starters, the Spurs won all four games, the Heat lost 3 of 4. Neither side cared as rest was more important than seeding to them. The Thunder and Bulls played their guys big minutes and chose to chase seeding and still lost a game or two.

Does that change the way you look at the 18 game streak? It should.
 
HendrixFan said:
Does that change the way you look at the 18 game streak? It should.
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The Spurs also swept both of their playoff series, winning by an average of nearly 14 points, with 6 of 8 victories by double digits. Miami has dropped 3 games in the playoffs so far, including a blowout loss to Indiana. Miami also has no word on a timeline of return for Bosh, who is a fairly critical piece of their team, while the Spurs are at full strength. The Spurs are simply playing better basketball right now than Miami is, and unless things change before the Finals, Miami does not look like a favorite over either the Spurs or the Thunder.
 
Atomic Playboy said:
The Spurs are simply playing better basketball right now than Miami is, and unless things change before the Finals, Miami does not look like a favorite over either the Spurs or the Thunder.
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Things are about to change, the Spurs are about to play a team that can actually get stops on occasion. Neither of their first two opponents could ever get a stop if they needed to.
 
A team could be 100-0 but if it's 100 wins against teams that aren't the team they're going to play, it's just a number. I really question the people I'm coming across who are acting like the Heat would be a 10:1 underdog if they played the Spurs. I'm not saying they would absolutely beat them. But it's nowhere near the mismatch some are making it out to be.
 
"And nobody can cover Rondo"

No one needs to cover Rondo, he can't shoot beyond 5 feet from the basket

I wish the WCF started tomorrow, looking forward to watching that series.
 
AznAnarchy99 said:
IMO its worse than Artest's elbow as he looked at him and charged with his elbow.
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I wouldn't say it's worse. Both were definitely bad hits as both could have done major damage.

But since Pittman is new, I'll give him the benefit of the doubt of just being a rookie/noob. With Artest, he needs to be banned from the NBA period. He's nothing but trash.
 
Schfifty Five said:
I wouldn't say it's worse. Both were definitely bad hits as both could have done major damage.

But since Pittman is new, I'll give him the benefit of the doubt of just being a rookie/noob. With Artest, he needs to be banned from the NBA period. He's nothing but trash.
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Without that running start, I would agree with you.
 
IAteYourMother said:
Lebron must be averaging 45+ minutes a game. Ridiculous.
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That wore him down last year, the big minutes coupled with chasing down and locking down the key wing guy on the opposing team. Bosh coming back would be huge for the Heat, if for no other reason, to provide minutes so Lebron can come off the floor.

It has been nearly two weeks since Bosh went down, and his injury is typically a 2-3 week type of thing.
 
HendrixFan said:
That wore him down last year, the big minutes coupled with chasing down and locking down the key wing guy on the opposing team. Bosh coming back would be huge for the Heat, if for no other reason, to provide minutes so Lebron can come off the floor.

It has been nearly two weeks since Bosh went down, and his injury is typically a 2-3 week type of thing.
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This morning they said he's on the stationary, and will undergo another MRI. He might be back on the court for practice on Sunday, with a chance of playing in either game 2 or game 3.

I still think Lebron will have to play the high minutes, if for no other reason than needing someone who can keep the offense going. If Wade comes off, Lebron has to stay in the game or that offense will stagnate in a bad way and could pull open some leads for the other team.
 
I agree Lebron has to put up big minutes, but hopefully the difference between 41 minutes a night and 45 is enough to keep from exhausting him.

Lebron faded down the stretch in game 2, possibly in no small part to wearing down by putting so much into shutting down David West. They moved him around in his coverages the rest of the way and pretty much used Battier against West with some weakside help. It seemed to make a difference in Lebron's energy level late.

If they play the Celtics, which is likely, then that slower pace can help them conserve energy while Bosh is out. They will need to time their spurts, as playing fast is something that the Celtics simply cannot match up with. Certainly after losing Bradley and having a gimpy Allen.
 
Philly is the only team in the East that's still pretty healthy. I expect Boston to put them away in game 7 at home, but I just don't see them being able to compete with Miami. Rondo and Bass are the only two guys in that first 6-7 player rotation that aren't dinged up. That team is just held together with ace wrap, ibuprofen, trainers tape, and willpower at this point.

Miami is playing faster, stronger, more explosive ball. I would not be suprised to see that series end in 5 games.
 
I hope Philly advances, even though I don't think they will. The Heat would probably dispatch them about as quickly as the Celtics, but it would be a much more entertaining few games. Who wants to see 83-78 games?
 
vi edit said:
Philly is the only team in the East that's still pretty healthy. I expect Boston to put them away in game 7 at home, but I just don't see them being able to compete with Miami. Rondo and Bass are the only two guys in that first 6-7 player rotation that aren't dinged up. That team is just held together with ace wrap, ibuprofen, trainers tape, and willpower at this point.

Miami is playing faster, stronger, more explosive ball. I would not be suprised to see that series end in 5 games.
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I think the Celts will squeak the win out Saturday night. Against Miami, if Avery Bradley was healthy, I would have given them a good chance. But with all of the injuries, I agree, I think they're probably done in 5 games.
 
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