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ponyo

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Sold 1/2 of the SBUX in premarket and locked in ~9%. Got my order to sell MSFT calls. I will be rolling the profits into BIDU puts.
 

Azurik

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Premarket is skyrocketing due to a surprise better than expected unemployment report. Only 20,000 drop compared to expected 80,000.

Your MSFT calls are going to be worth a little bit more before you sell them :)
 

ponyo

Lifer
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Originally posted by: Azurik
Premarket is skyrocketing due to a surprise better than expected unemployment report. Only 20,000 drop compared to expected 80,000.

Your MSFT calls are going to be worth a little bit more before you sell them :)

The easy trade of the morning was the opening fade. Had my order to sell calls at $1. Got filled at $1.05 at the open. 85% final gain.

Bought BIDU $350 puts at the open. Up 35% on those. BIDU = beta so that can change for the negative in a hurry though.

Still holding the remaining 1/2 of SBUX. Should've punted that as well but got too cute and tried to time the top.

My feeling has been we're going to rally past S&P 1410 and then get everyone sucked in and then pull out the rug. Now we're here, I want to minimize my long exposure and get out of the way. I'll let others try to squeeze out every little ounce of gain. I've put on my bear hat and will play from the short side. Looking at financials and betas as targets. I believe another shoe will drop real soon, and we'll be lot lower a month from now. I don't believe in V shaped bottom and believe we'll see another low that even lower than the low earlier this year. Be careful everyone.
 

ponyo

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Originally posted by: Lothar
Originally posted by: Naustica
I was looking at Buffett's holding and one name that really caught my eye was CarMax. I've been thinking about this name the past two days and it's a name I should definitely own in my longterm account. It's a classic Peter Lynch stock. Buffett started to buy this name in the 2nd half of the year and now owns almost 10% of the company. At the current price, I can buy it cheaper than the price Buffett bought in. At little over 4 billion market cap, it has plenty room to grow and I can see this company doubling it's revenue and net income in about 4 years. Company has plenty room to expand as it's not in every market right now. Even in the market where it currently operates, it could easily open more stores before worrying about saturation. Best time to buy a retailer is while it's in the expansion phase and this company is definitely expanding. With the credit market uncertainty and current bear retail climate, this stock could definitely go lower and hopefully will. Lot of people must think so as it has around 17% of the float short as of Jan this year. I'm planning on establishing a position and accumulating on major weakness.

I'll follow you but open a different play book.
I'm looking at opening a small stake in AmeriCredit Corp., preferably in the low $10 range.

Everyone seems to be running away from this stock but I see valuation.

Good job with AmeriCredit. I was wrong.
I just noticed Blackstone is back to life.
 

imported_Lothar

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Originally posted by: Naustica
Originally posted by: Lothar
Originally posted by: Naustica
I was looking at Buffett's holding and one name that really caught my eye was CarMax. I've been thinking about this name the past two days and it's a name I should definitely own in my longterm account. It's a classic Peter Lynch stock. Buffett started to buy this name in the 2nd half of the year and now owns almost 10% of the company. At the current price, I can buy it cheaper than the price Buffett bought in. At little over 4 billion market cap, it has plenty room to grow and I can see this company doubling it's revenue and net income in about 4 years. Company has plenty room to expand as it's not in every market right now. Even in the market where it currently operates, it could easily open more stores before worrying about saturation. Best time to buy a retailer is while it's in the expansion phase and this company is definitely expanding. With the credit market uncertainty and current bear retail climate, this stock could definitely go lower and hopefully will. Lot of people must think so as it has around 17% of the float short as of Jan this year. I'm planning on establishing a position and accumulating on major weakness.

I'll follow you but open a different play book.
I'm looking at opening a small stake in AmeriCredit Corp., preferably in the low $10 range.

Everyone seems to be running away from this stock but I see valuation.

Good job with AmeriCredit. I was wrong.
I just noticed Blackstone is back to life.

Meh...
Not comfortable with Blackstone yet.
Perhaps when they stop writing checks that they can't cash, I might be more interested.
Even though Schwarzman has said they intend to keep paying dividend till 2009(my brain says yes, but my gut says no), I'd still rather have my money elsewhere.

There's no telling what congress will do with them and I get the feeling that if congress makes the move they want to, they just might be going back private.

The company heavily depends on credit to finance their dealings and they weren't able to access that much during the credit crisis. They haven't done any major acquisitions in a long while, and I have a feeling they are trying their best to make their ADS deal fall apart.
I'm glad they realized their mistake. They offered too much for that crap.
 

Noirish

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Originally posted by: richardycc
bought some yhoo at 28.70, cmon, MSFT, please up your offer to $33 or more!

ka-ching!!!

oops, nvm, it's gravity is going to work hard on monday.
 

ponyo

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Originally posted by: Lothar
Good riddance.
Steve Ballmer rebuffs Yahoo's $37/share offer.

Jerry Yang expecting a $37/share offer when the stock was sitting at $19/share before the 60% premium Microsoft bid.
Paying 100% premium for what the company is worth? Yeah, right. :roll:

Hmm, interesting. So MSFT should pop Monday morning to over $30 while YHOO drops like a rock. I think YHOO will settle in the $22-24 range when it's all said and done. I would buy for a flip if it got down to $19-21 range.
 

ponyo

Lifer
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Originally posted by: richardycc
bought some yhoo at 28.70, cmon, MSFT, please up your offer to $33 or more!

Looks like you got the rug pulled out beneath you.
 

richardycc

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Originally posted by: Naustica
Originally posted by: richardycc
bought some yhoo at 28.70, cmon, MSFT, please up your offer to $33 or more!

Looks like you got the rug pulled out beneath you.

I knew this was too easy, just about every media was saying this was a done deal at a higher price, etc...almost like a set up, anyway, I might have to average down Monday and turn this into a long term investment. MSFT was willing to pay $33/share, so it should worth $33, right? anything less is a bargain! ;)
 

imported_Lothar

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Originally posted by: richardycc
Originally posted by: Naustica
Originally posted by: richardycc
bought some yhoo at 28.70, cmon, MSFT, please up your offer to $33 or more!

Looks like you got the rug pulled out beneath you.

I knew this was too easy, just about every media was saying this was a done deal at a higher price, etc...almost like a set up, anyway, I might have to average down Monday and turn this into a long term investment. MSFT was willing to pay $33/share, so it should worth $33, right? anything less is a bargain! ;)

Heh...Good luck with that.
Could have been had for $33/share , but Jerry Yang and the YHOO executives were just being greedy bastards.

Even the original MSFT bid of $31/share was way overpriced.
 

bonkers325

Lifer
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a lot of people got the rugs yanked out from under them, unfortunately. monday will be interesting, people will want Jerry's head!
 

MrYogi

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Does anyone have suggestions on what to use to track the portfolio? Most of the software I found on sourceforge or download.com does not keep a track of sold stocks.
 

theeedude

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Originally posted by: richardycc
Originally posted by: Naustica
Originally posted by: richardycc
bought some yhoo at 28.70, cmon, MSFT, please up your offer to $33 or more!

Looks like you got the rug pulled out beneath you.

I knew this was too easy, just about every media was saying this was a done deal at a higher price, etc...almost like a set up, anyway, I might have to average down Monday and turn this into a long term investment. MSFT was willing to pay $33/share, so it should worth $33, right? anything less is a bargain! ;)

Don't throw good money after bad. You made a bet, you lost, move on. There are plenty of better long term investments than Yahoo.
 

imported_Lothar

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Originally posted by: senseamp
Originally posted by: richardycc
Originally posted by: Naustica
Originally posted by: richardycc
bought some yhoo at 28.70, cmon, MSFT, please up your offer to $33 or more!

Looks like you got the rug pulled out beneath you.

I knew this was too easy, just about every media was saying this was a done deal at a higher price, etc...almost like a set up, anyway, I might have to average down Monday and turn this into a long term investment. MSFT was willing to pay $33/share, so it should worth $33, right? anything less is a bargain! ;)

Don't throw good money after bad. You made a bet, you lost, move on. There are plenty of better long term investments than Yahoo.

My sentiments exactly.
 

XZeroII

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Originally posted by: wasssup
Man I hope V goes up this week...when it tanked that day my profit dipped $4k. :(

I hope V crashes. I just sold my 12 shares, and put more money into my brokerage account. When it goes down a bunch, I'll buy back in.
 

Miramonti

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Yahoo's trading around $23 now. If it dips $2-3, I might pick up a billion shares or so and see if I can scalp $5-10 bucks out of them. :p
 

ponyo

Lifer
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Originally posted by: jjsole
Yahoo's trading around $23 now. If it dips $2-3, I might pick up a billion shares or so and see if I can scalp $5-10 bucks out of them. :p

You have to stand in line if your order is behind mine. I've my limit order set at $19.5. Not that I'm expecting to get hit.

I'm trying to buy some Cisco puts. Got my order to buy some May $26 puts at $.64. If I get hit, fine. If not, that's fine too. Cisco reports tomorrow after the close.