***Official*** 2007 Stock Market Thread

[erub]

Originally posted by: PAB

Originally posted by: iversonyin

Originally posted by: Azurik

Originally posted by: JDub02

Originally posted by: Azurik
It's going to be another great year for government defense companies that's for sure...

I used to work for Lockheed Martin. Their matching 401k contributions went into company stock. Their stock has been kicking butt and sending that 401k plan way high. I hope to see that keep climbing for a while.

I work for Raytheon. Without going into areas where it might be considered insider info, I think gov't defense companies still have a ways to go in the run-up. Maybe a stall or go downward when the next president gets elected - depends on what his defense spending budget is. Bish will leave a high defense spending plan in place for the year he leaves, so I think they are relatively safe until 2009.

Defense companies you guys might be interested after hearing the comment from trustworthy the Azurik (who I consider ATOT Smartmoney):
LMT
NOC
GD
BA
RTN

Boeing, of course, has a huge commercial aircraft division. Which is growing quite nicely since Airbus failed to deliver the goodies. - That is where you might wonder why BA's P/E is so out of blown compare to other defense companies.

So far, we have a lot of ETFs and mutual fund investors. Where are the stock pickers of ATOT?!

Although I own some stocks, it is INCREDIBLY hard to buy blue chips nowadays. Even with a $100k portfolio, to be properly diversified you'll be holding odd lots of shares left and right. Unless you've got a million bucks to play with, stocks require more nuts and bolts investing,

the great PAB has spoken, I thought you just bought 41K of some stock?

Anyway I hold Vanguard's Total Stock Market and Total International Funds

 

[PAB]

Originally posted by: erub

Originally posted by: PAB

Originally posted by: iversonyin

Originally posted by: Azurik

Originally posted by: JDub02

Originally posted by: Azurik
It's going to be another great year for government defense companies that's for sure...

I used to work for Lockheed Martin. Their matching 401k contributions went into company stock. Their stock has been kicking butt and sending that 401k plan way high. I hope to see that keep climbing for a while.

I work for Raytheon. Without going into areas where it might be considered insider info, I think gov't defense companies still have a ways to go in the run-up. Maybe a stall or go downward when the next president gets elected - depends on what his defense spending budget is. Bish will leave a high defense spending plan in place for the year he leaves, so I think they are relatively safe until 2009.

Defense companies you guys might be interested after hearing the comment from trustworthy the Azurik (who I consider ATOT Smartmoney):
LMT
NOC
GD
BA
RTN

Boeing, of course, has a huge commercial aircraft division. Which is growing quite nicely since Airbus failed to deliver the goodies. - That is where you might wonder why BA's P/E is so out of blown compare to other defense companies.

So far, we have a lot of ETFs and mutual fund investors. Where are the stock pickers of ATOT?!

Although I own some stocks, it is INCREDIBLY hard to buy blue chips nowadays. Even with a $100k portfolio, to be properly diversified you'll be holding odd lots of shares left and right. Unless you've got a million bucks to play with, stocks require more nuts and bolts investing,

the great PAB has spoken, I thought you just bought 41K of some stock?

Anyway I hold Vanguard's Total Stock Market and Total International Funds

Yeah, I did. I'm still diversified though.

 

[Azurik]

I diversify my stocks and funds as follows:

35% International
30% Large Caps
10% Mid Blended
10% Small Blended
5% International Small/Emerging
5% Healthcare
2 1/2% Tech
2 1/2% Real Estate

 

[iversonyin]

Originally posted by: Azurik
I diversify my stocks and funds as follows:

35% International
30% Large Caps
10% Mid Blended
10% Small Blended
5% International Small/Emerging
5% Healthcare
2 1/2% Tech
2 1/2% Real Estate

35% International- Is that mainly Europe? Because you have 5% on Small/Emerging.

And are you buying index funds?

 

[iversonyin]

I'm in the following stocks:
NYX
MPEL
FIG

Down about 10%. YOOOHOOOO!

 

[JEDI]

GM up 10% YTD
vgsix (real estate) up 12% YTD
bond fund 0% YTD
Emerging markets 2% YTD.... looks like the hot run up in emerging markets has lost steam
QQQQ (Nasdaq 100) 3% YTD

 

[IHateMyJob2004]

Here's to a flat year on the markets!!!! cheers!

OPtions have done well so far this year. About 20% annualized relative to my portfolio value.

And a 3% yield.

And all very good stocks.

yayyy!!!!

 

[Azurik]

Originally posted by: iversonyin

Originally posted by: Azurik
I diversify my stocks and funds as follows:

35% International
30% Large Caps
10% Mid Blended
10% Small Blended
5% International Small/Emerging
5% Healthcare
2 1/2% Tech
2 1/2% Real Estate

35% International- Is that mainly Europe? Because you have 5% on Small/Emerging.

And are you buying index funds?

I own a lot of Dox & Cox International, probably 30% of that 35% figure. The rest is in foreign individual stocks. There's a significant weight in Europe, and a signicant, although smaller weight in Asia.

 

[her209]

Jesus... what happened to the stock market today? Its all negative.

 

[Dacalo]

Originally posted by: her209
Jesus... what happened to the stock market today? Its all negative.

Same as usual, higher gas and inflation fears from Fed remarks.

 

[EKKC]

bought 15 GOOG at 460. i never bought less than 50 shares of of anything before this. they should split dammit!

losing (unrealized of course) almost 2 thousand in a day makes me want to cry. i never have ANY day where I am up this much.

 

[iversonyin]

Originally posted by: her209
Jesus... what happened to the stock market today? Its all negative.

Look at the chart. It still look decent. If it break down any further next week, we might have a correction that we waited for.

If you have any domestic airlines in your portfolio, I suggest you GTFO, especially AMR. Mid 30's P/E for an airline? No way I'm paying for it.

 

[iversonyin]

Originally posted by: EKKC
bought 15 GOOG at 460. i never bought less than 50 shares of of anything before this. they should split dammit!

losing (unrealized of course) almost 2 thousand in a day makes me want to cry. i never have ANY day where I am up this much.

Waiting for 450 to hit before pulling the trigger. I'm looking to buy some $VIX option for Apr and May.

 

[iversonyin]

Originally posted by: Dacalo

Originally posted by: her209
Jesus... what happened to the stock market today? Its all negative.

Same as usual, higher gas and inflation fears from Fed remarks.

Its bullcrap. Market moved and then media look for news to justify the move. Is there really a negative correlation b/w the gas/oil price and the market?

Well check this out. Look at the price of crude and gas for last 3 years and look at the chart of S&P500 and DJ30 for the last 3 years. See the correlation? It is a negative correlation? I don't think so.

Low gas price these days might mean that hedge funds and big oil firms are pessimistic about the future of the economy- hence they short sell crude oil futures (instrument that trades on NYMEX) in participation of a slower economy that use less fuel.

The concept that low oil price is fantastic for the economy hold little or no truth at all.

 

[bobdelt]

Originally posted by: Azurik
Market has obviously cooled down from their go-go gadget run of the past 6 months. I believe a lot of this year's action will depend on:

#1. Fed policy. Did the feds manage a superior soft landing? Can inflation be maintained? Can oil be managed?

#2. Geopolitical Issues. Will it be relatively stable or will wars/terror/threats surprise the financial markets?

really? those 2 thing never affect the market...!?

 

[Pocatello]

Wow, I'm impress. A useful ATOT thread is rare indeed. This one is gold.

 

[bobdelt]

Originally posted by: her209

Originally posted by: iversonyin

Originally posted by: her209
AAPL down 0.11% YTD

RIMM up 3.94% YTD

Weren't you loaded in AMD as well? You are way heavy on tech!

All my investments non-401k are tech.

You know the tech boom already happened right?

I have Palm, Broadcom, Intel, GE, Ford, Internation Coal Organisation, Southwest, Cisco, merrill lynch, Sprint, lockheed and im trying to figure out what to do with the health care industry....

 

[iversonyin]

Originally posted by: bobdelt

Originally posted by: her209

Originally posted by: iversonyin

Originally posted by: her209
AAPL down 0.11% YTD

RIMM up 3.94% YTD

Weren't you loaded in AMD as well? You are way heavy on tech!

All my investments non-401k are tech.

You know the tech boom already happened right?

He has quality tech survivors.

You need to listen to MP3 right? You need to use mobile/cell phone right? You need router right? You need computer right? You need to check your email while you not at your office right? You use search engine online right?

 

[bobdelt]

Originally posted by: iversonyin

Originally posted by: bobdelt

Originally posted by: her209

Originally posted by: iversonyin

Originally posted by: her209
AAPL down 0.11% YTD

RIMM up 3.94% YTD

Weren't you loaded in AMD as well? You are way heavy on tech!

All my investments non-401k are tech.

You know the tech boom already happened right?

He has quality tech survivors.

You need to listen to MP3 right? You need to use mobile/cell phone right? You need router right? You need computer right? You need to check your email while you not at your office right? You use search engine online right?

That doesnt mean you put all your stock in one industry. Last time I checked the industry hasnt been performing that well lately - and it should be with vista being just released. I think intel might show some growth and it pays a nice div, and the internet\network companies should be strong. I think the cell phone industry is way too competitive.

 

[dartworth]

why doesn't the OP just start his own blog...

 

[Azurik]

Originally posted by: bobdelt

Originally posted by: her209

Originally posted by: iversonyin

Originally posted by: her209
AAPL down 0.11% YTD

RIMM up 3.94% YTD

Weren't you loaded in AMD as well? You are way heavy on tech!

All my investments non-401k are tech.

You know the tech boom already happened right?

I have Palm, Broadcom, Intel, GE, Ford, Internation Coal Organisation, Southwest, Cisco, merrill lynch, Sprint, lockheed and im trying to figure out what to do with the health care industry....

In my opinion, overweight the health care industry. It's been an underperformer for a while, but sectors come and go. I believe health care will be one of the hotter ones these next several years. I'm looking to open a position in PHZ. There's a lot of workforce reduction along with patent expiration on some of their top drugs in the coming years, so lets see what they can get in their pipeline and how many of their potentials can get through Phase III.

 

[iversonyin]

Originally posted by: bobdelt

Originally posted by: iversonyin

Originally posted by: bobdelt

Originally posted by: her209

Originally posted by: iversonyin

Originally posted by: her209
AAPL down 0.11% YTD

RIMM up 3.94% YTD

Weren't you loaded in AMD as well? You are way heavy on tech!

All my investments non-401k are tech.

You know the tech boom already happened right?

He has quality tech survivors.

You need to listen to MP3 right? You need to use mobile/cell phone right? You need router right? You need computer right? You need to check your email while you not at your office right? You use search engine online right?

That doesnt mean you put all your stock in one industry. Last time I checked the industry hasnt been performing that well lately - and it should be with vista being just released. I think intel might show some growth and it pays a nice div, and the internet\network companies should be strong. I think the cell phone industry is way too competitive.

What I meant was even tech boom and bust years ago, there still alot of quality tech companies one can invest in.

I never agree with throwing all your retirement to tech, but its his money, he does whatever he want. I don't think his picks were bad however. RIMM took over the corporate/business email market. Apple took over the consumer MP3 players market. These two are quality companies, unlike most tech companies before 2000, which had no real earnings or even revenue prospect.

 

[iversonyin]

Originally posted by: bobdelt

Originally posted by: her209

Originally posted by: iversonyin

Originally posted by: her209
AAPL down 0.11% YTD

RIMM up 3.94% YTD

Weren't you loaded in AMD as well? You are way heavy on tech!

All my investments non-401k are tech.

I have Palm, Broadcom, Intel, GE, Ford, Internation Coal Organisation, Southwest, Cisco, merrill lynch, Sprint, lockheed and im trying to figure out what to do with the health care industry....

I would not buy individual stocks in health care. Buy the sector ETF or buy a mutual fund that invest in health care sector.

As for your stock picks. I just don't get why anyone would hold Sprint. There are way better companies out there for teleco play. Sprint's business had deteriorated. Churn rate is way higher than competitors, services got worse after the Nextel merger. There couple of rumors that it might be taken private. Even then, I would rather sit in T or VZ to collect dividends.

As for ICO, I think there way better coal companies out there, or any other energy/alternative energy companies for that matter.

Rest of the picks are pretty ok.

 

[Azurik]

Originally posted by: iversonyin

Originally posted by: bobdelt

Originally posted by: her209

Originally posted by: iversonyin

Originally posted by: her209
AAPL down 0.11% YTD

RIMM up 3.94% YTD

Weren't you loaded in AMD as well? You are way heavy on tech!

All my investments non-401k are tech.

I have Palm, Broadcom, Intel, GE, Ford, Internation Coal Organisation, Southwest, Cisco, merrill lynch, Sprint, lockheed and im trying to figure out what to do with the health care industry....

I would not buy individual stocks in health care. Buy the sector ETF or buy a mutual fund that invest in health care sector.

I agree.

 

[iversonyin]

Reshuffled my portfolio. With most of my holding in APC as a value play and smaller part in MPEL as a speculative play.

APC:
Anadarko Petroleum Corporation engages in the exploration, development, production, and marketing of natural gas, crude oil, condensate, and natural gas liquids primarily in the United States and internationally. As of December 31, 2005, it had proved reserves of 7.9 trillion cubic feet of natural gas; and 1.1 billion barrels of crude oil, condensate, and natural gas liquids (NGLs). The company also purchases natural gas, crude oil, and NGL volumes for resale, as well as owns and operates seven gas gathering systems in its primary producing areas. Anadarko Petroleum owns exploration acreage in Tunisia, West Africa, Indonesia, and off the coast of Georgia in the Black Sea. In addition, it involves in the hard minerals business in several coal, trona, and industrial mineral mines. The company was founded in 1959 and is headquartered in The Woodlands, Texas. Anadarko Petroleum Corporation sold its wholly owned subsidiary, Anadarko Canada Corporation that has assets and operations in Canada, in November 2006.

Good profitable company that made 2 big acquisitions that might not pay off for another year or 2. I like how it is trading at a discount compare to its peers...EOG and APA. The two acquisitions help to replenish its reserve. I think the market is a little short sighted on this one.