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Officer's Gun Falls From Pants, Shoots Man In Other Bathroom Stall

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Originally posted by: ktehmok
Understood, but what's the first rule you teach yourself when you drop a knife?.....let it fall, don't grab it....

Nothing against you, but you're probably not trained to carry a firearm. This guy was. Make a stupid mistake, say oops. Make a stupid mistake and injure someone, go to jail. That badge makes zero difference. If anyone says otherwise, then they're wrong.

I didn't say he was correct in grabbing for it, just that he must have.

And I actually am licensed in the state of Oregon to carry a concealed handgun.

Viper GTS
 
Originally posted by: K1052
After hearing a bunch of the horror stories from the most senior range instructor at a relatively large police agency, I don't have a ton of faith in the safe handling and shooting skills of many officers.

NDs happen all the time with LEOs for this reason.

We need the video of the DEA agent shooting himself in the leg with his "Glock 40" 😀
 
Originally posted by: Mookow
Originally posted by: K1052
After hearing a bunch of the horror stories from the most senior range instructor at a relatively large police agency, I don't have a ton of faith in the safe handling and shooting skills of many officers.

NDs happen all the time with LEOs for this reason.

We need the video of the DEA agent shooting himself in the leg with his "Glock 40" 😀

heh

My personal favorite is when the aforementioned agency's primary range was shut down due to a bunch of morons (officer morons in this case) shooting at the top of the berm on the pistol range. The rounds were landing on cars in the parking lot of a nearby business.
 
Originally posted by: K1052
Originally posted by: Mookow
We need the video of the DEA agent shooting himself in the leg with his "Glock 40" 😀
heh

My personal favorite is when the aforementioned agency's primary range was shut down due to a bunch of morons (officer morons in this case) shooting at the top of the berm on the pistol range. The rounds were landing on cars in the parking lot of a nearby business.

I wonder how long they would have continued with that practice if they hadnt been hitting cars.
 
Originally posted by: Mookow
Originally posted by: K1052
Originally posted by: Mookow
We need the video of the DEA agent shooting himself in the leg with his "Glock 40" 😀
heh

My personal favorite is when the aforementioned agency's primary range was shut down due to a bunch of morons (officer morons in this case) shooting at the top of the berm on the pistol range. The rounds were landing on cars in the parking lot of a nearby business.

I wonder how long they would have continued with that practice if they hadnt been hitting cars.

Most likely until somebody with a brain saw what they were doing and made them stop.


 
Originally posted by: K1052
Most likely until somebody with a brain saw what they were doing and made them stop.

Waiting for someone with a brain to step onto a police firing range could be a long wait.
 
Originally posted by: Mookow
Originally posted by: K1052
Most likely until somebody with a brain saw what they were doing and made them stop.

Waiting for someone with a brain to step onto a police firing range could be a long wait.

Longer than it takes for them to learn NOT to leave automatic weapons in their squad cars for anyone to come along and steal?
 
Originally posted by: ktehmok
Originally posted by: Flatscan
I read about how an MP/soldier's sidearm fell muzzle-down onto a concrete barracks floor. I think it may not have been cocked. The firing pin (which was heavier before design changes) carried enough momentum to fire the bullet in the chamber. Another MP/soldier in the room caught the ricochet and died.

What sidearm are you referring to?

It's theorectically possible with a Colt that was manufactured prior to 1980. After that they all have a safety mechanism that makes that impossible. Although I truly believe that AD story to be complete BS. I had my series 70 Colt (no firing pin safety) fall one time, cocked & locked. It landed directly on the hammer & didn't discharge. (If you're referring to a Baretta 9mm then the story is complete horsesh|t).

Of course it would have to land on the muzzle for the firing pin to be actuated, but it says something about the inherent safety of the weapon. That being said, if you have ever dissasembled one & felt the firing pin spring, you would know that you would have to literally throw the gun against the ground to try & achieve an AD with it. It takes more than a mere tap on the primer to ignite a round of ammunition.
Honestly, I don't remember, and the story could certainly be apocryphal. I think it was a 1911. Thinking about it carefully, everything about the situation was wrong - a heavy firing pin, a weak firing pin spring, and a concrete floor - which makes your BS call more likely. Maybe I was reading a handgun safety manual that had the agenda of recommending against carrying a round in the chamber.

Edit: Did a few quick searches. Looks like everyone knows about the potential for AD from dropping muzzle-down, but it very rarely, if ever, happens. One guy deliberately tested a pre-80 series from 15ft onto concrete, and was unable to force an AD.
 
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