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Officers Fired After Beating an Unconscious Suspect Caught on Tape

so do i. you try to run over a cop you deserve a beat down.


but hell they should have known better. it was wrong and they shouldnt have done it. but i can understand it and i have NO sympathy for the guy.
 
That was an awesome flying vehicle exit. Also, lol at the first cop falling on his ass trying to administer the beat down.
 
Originally posted by: OUCaptain
That was an awesome flying vehicle exit. Also, lol at the first cop falling on his ass trying to administer the beat down.

lol yeah laughed when both went down. idiot for not wearing a seatbelt and another for wanting to kick in his head on a wet slope heh
 
Originally posted by: waggy
so do i. you try to run over a cop you deserve a beat down.


but hell they should have known better. it was wrong and they shouldnt have done it. but i can understand it and i have NO sympathy for the guy.

You're right. You can't act like a thug when you represent the law.
 
I like how their first instinct, upon seeing a guy fly out of a car during a crash only to land motionless on the ground, is to start gang-beating the shit out of him.
 
Originally posted by: AstroManLuca
I like how their first instinct, upon seeing a guy fly out of a car during a crash only to land motionless on the ground, is to start gang-beating the shit out of him.

how else would you expect a large organized gang to act?
 
Damn....that isn't far from where I am. The mayor of Birmingham, Larry Langford, is on CNN right now. Sure, the perp was scum, but once he is unconscious, the chase is over and he is no longer a threat. This is an open and shut case of police brutality.

To answer other questions, the office that got hit has recovered, and the perp is now serving a 20-yr sentence.
 
:laugh: Stupid pigs got what they deserved for beating an unconscious man.

You really have to wonder how low their IQs are to not realize that their OWN squad cars have dash cameras.
 
Originally posted by: AstroManLuca
I like how their first instinct, upon seeing a guy fly out of a car during a crash only to land motionless on the ground, is to start gang-beating the shit out of him.

How else are they going subdue him? He tried to kill a cop, nothing says he wasn't going to try to do it again. I really don't see anything wrong here. He's lucky he didn't get shot.

Also, remember to wear your seatbelt when you're trying to kill cops.

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Pretty good strafe and roll by the spike strip cop and then going back to cover. I want that guy on my call of duty team!
 
Originally posted by: MovingTarget
Damn....that isn't far from where I am. The mayor of Birmingham, Larry Langford, is on CNN right now. Sure, the perp was scum, but once he is unconscious, the chase is over and he is no longer a threat. This is an open and shut case of police brutality.

To answer other questions, the office that got hit has recovered, and the perp is now serving a 20-yr sentence.

it's never open and shut when police are involved. Luckily for them, the general public hates criminals so much shit like this can happen and there won't be much of a public outcry for justice. Cops essentially get to be criminals themselves and get away with it. Everyone involved in this is scum, on both sides. And all deserve to rot in prison.

 
Originally posted by: AstroManLuca
I like how their first instinct, upon seeing a guy fly out of a car during a crash only to land motionless on the ground, is to start gang-beating the shit out of him.

People are often times most dangerous when laying on the ground unconscious, it's true.

Shit like this makes me wonder why they even have training for police. Yes, he tried to run a cop over, yes he's scum. No, you can't beat him after he's sleeping on the pavement simply because he tried to run a cop over. Once he's on the pavement not moving that's the end of the pursuit and any even semi intelligent person who sees that crash and watches dude fly out the window can pretty much assume said person is no longer going to pose a threat at all.

 
Originally posted by: spidey07
Originally posted by: AstroManLuca
I like how their first instinct, upon seeing a guy fly out of a car during a crash only to land motionless on the ground, is to start gang-beating the shit out of him.

How else are they going subdue him? He tried to kill a cop, nothing says he wasn't going to try to do it again. I really don't see anything wrong here. He's lucky he didn't get shot.

Also, remember to wear your seatbelt when you're trying to kill cops.

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Pretty good strafe and roll by the spike strip cop and then going back to cover. I want that guy on my call of duty team!

I don't think the person driving the van was intentionally trying to hit the cop. It looks like they just reacted to where the spike strip was thrown on the road. I know this doesn't make a difference with anything but that's what I think at least.
 
Originally posted by: RedArmy

I don't think the person driving the van was intentionally trying to hit the cop. It looks like they just reacted to where the spike strip was thrown on the road. I know this doesn't make a difference with anything but that's what I think at least.

I watched it again a few times - he made a CLEAR and PURPOSEFUL move to go right for the cop.
 
Originally posted by: spidey07
How else are they going subdue him?
Handcuffs? I've never tried handcuffing an unconscious man, but I imagine it's easier than handcuffing a conscious man.

Originally posted by: QueBert
Once he's on the pavement not moving that's the end of the pursuit and any even semi intelligent person who sees that crash and watches dude fly out the window can pretty much assume said person is no longer going to pose a threat at all.
Clearly you haven't met any members of the Birmingham PD and their apologist friend spidey. Birds of a feather.
 
Originally posted by: jpeyton
Originally posted by: spidey07
How else are they going subdue him?
Handcuffs? I've never tried handcuffing an unconscious man, but I imagine it's easier than handcuffing a conscious man.

Meh, you have somebody that tried to kill you or your friends and see how you would react. You going to poke him with a stick to make sure he's not faking with his hands underneath him where you can't see if he has a weapon? After just trying to kill you?

BANG! You're dead.
 
Originally posted by: spidey07
Originally posted by: jpeyton
Originally posted by: spidey07
How else are they going subdue him?
Handcuffs? I've never tried handcuffing an unconscious man, but I imagine it's easier than handcuffing a conscious man.

Meh, you have somebody that tried to kill you or your friends and see how you would react. You going to poke him with a stick to make sure he's not faking with his hands underneath him where you can't see if he has a weapon? After just trying to kill you?

BANG! You're dead.
You can apply your kook theory to suggest that *every single suspect* should be gang-beaten before being taken into custody. Of course you ignore the fact that your theory also implies these police officers are too incompetent to approach and handcuff a man lying face down after being ejected from his car during a car wreck. That's a considerable level of incompetence.

Maybe he's got a James Bond style shoe gun, activated by his big toe, and cops need to shoot off his kneecaps to make sure he doesn't use it.

Or maybe you're consistently on the opposite side of courts that are much smarter than you.
 
Originally posted by: spidey07
Meh, you have somebody that tried to kill you or your friends and see how you would react. You going to poke him with a stick to make sure he's not faking with his hands underneath him where you can't see if he has a weapon? After just trying to kill you?

BANG! You're dead.

Pathetic justification.

For starters, proper technique for searching an unconscious suspect, or anyone laying down for that matter, is to have one person cover while the other searches. Your partners reaction time should be much greater than his.

Hell, even in our training, if someone is laying on the ground with a possible IED, there is STILL someone who goes up and searches him.

So, in this case, there's no excuse.

Second, he was thrown from a vehicle moving at high speed, and even if he were conscious, his first instinct wouldn't have been to play dead, it would have been to get up and say "holy fuck".

As far as your first point is concerned, well, we expect our police to be more civilized and disciplined than that. Not to mention that you don't exactly get revenge by beating on someone who can't even feel it.
 
Originally posted by: spidey07
Originally posted by: RedArmy

I don't think the person driving the van was intentionally trying to hit the cop. It looks like they just reacted to where the spike strip was thrown on the road. I know this doesn't make a difference with anything but that's what I think at least.

I watched it again a few times - he made a CLEAR and PURPOSEFUL move to go right for the cop.

Well of course he went towards where the cop was, that's where the spike strip wasn't placed. I'm just saying that I don't think his primary motivation was to mow a cop down. I'm pretty sure he was more concerned about trying to get away.
 
Originally posted by: jpeyton
:laugh: Stupid pigs got what they deserved for beating an unconscious man.

You really have to wonder how low their IQs are to not realize that their OWN squad cars have dash cameras.

here comes the resident.... oh hell with it. not worth my time.

Originally posted by: RedArmy
Originally posted by: spidey07
Originally posted by: RedArmy

I don't think the person driving the van was intentionally trying to hit the cop. It looks like they just reacted to where the spike strip was thrown on the road. I know this doesn't make a difference with anything but that's what I think at least.

I watched it again a few times - he made a CLEAR and PURPOSEFUL move to go right for the cop.

Well of course he went towards where the cop was, that's where the spike strip wasn't placed. I'm just saying that I don't think his primary motivation was to mow a cop down. I'm pretty sure he was more concerned about trying to get away.

Watch the video again. He was trying to get away from something, driving like a fool, and the van originally was on a direct path toward where the officer was. Then he threw down a spike strip at the last second before dodging, and that's when the van swerved again toward the cop, but this time definitely just trying to avoid the strip, but potentially still aiming for the cop. But it looks like clear intent was to hit the cop at the place he was originally standing, in the other lane before diving out of the way.

Regardless of whatever happened, I definitely don't agree with the officers all madly jumping on and beating the perp after he was ejected from the van. Somewhat understandable after trying to run down an officer, and who knows whatever else happened before that - the officers, who already had spike strips in hand, and the driving behavior of the van... not to mention the number of police already on the scene... make me think something serious went down that involved that van.
No justification for the actions they took, but gives you some understanding. Yes, they are police officers, but they are still people first, and that is a human reaction. Again, not attempting to justify this one bit.

But the point? The better reaction would have been for the first officer there to jump on the guy, most definitely. Jump, maybe throw one swing, but then keep enough cool to have the time to realize "hmmm... this guy still hasn't moved. Alright, let's secure him and get medical treatment and security."
 
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