Laugh.. I'm not going to say your wrong.. But I work in an enviroment where i burn 100+ cd's a month I use these cd's and to date have had no failures I can attribute to being the cd "other than scratches" I've been using these cd's since outpost used to ship em overnight for 9 bux hehe. I currently continue to use them for all sorts of things.. digital media vcd jpeg storage etc.. Sure.. they might not be worth a crap in 5 years.. I don't have a piece of data here I will still be using in 5 years

even Pr0n gets updated somewhat hehe.....
further note. I've got 3 burners here 2 plextor scsi external 12x10x32 and one 40x12x40 internal.
I have a liteon 24x at home with 300+burns on it. in the past 3 months I've had 2 bad burns do to bad media.
Thats it!!
You cannot beat the performance of these cd's in respect to their price.
I have the taiyo yudens for the important Pr0n..