Bill Kunert
Senior member
I just quit OM a couple of weeks ago to avoid black Friday. OM has a no questions asked 14 day return policy on just about everything except software and they also guarantee their prices for 14 days.
Bill
Bill
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Office Max Black Friday Thread
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WhipperSnapper
Lifer
Ouch. Is working on Black Friday really that bad?
VirtualLarry
No Lifer
I tried to buy something once on BF last year at OM. It took like an hour to check-out. Utterly ridiculous. I've never seen slower check-outs in my life. But, if people quitting just before BF is the order of the day at OM, then that would go a long way towards explaining the phenomenon, if they were recent hires.
I worked a few in my life. I worked for American Eagle Outfitters back in the 80's and I can remember working the register and not looking up from the register for just about the entire 8 hour shift. It was back in the days when we didn't have computers and scanners. We had to type everything in manually and there was a separate credit card machine (telzon). It was a major PITA compared to the checkout systems that they have today.
I also worked Crate and Barrel one Xmas' back in the early 90's after I graduated college. That was no fun either because everyone wanted their stuff boxed. I was so sick of dealing with Crate and Barrel boxes.
Sal
I also worked Crate and Barrel one Xmas' back in the early 90's after I graduated college. That was no fun either because everyone wanted their stuff boxed. I was so sick of dealing with Crate and Barrel boxes.
Sal
They will. I've done this for three years now and OM has always let me return and rebuy the merchandise. Be sure to return and repurchase (not price adjust or price match), so you qualify for the rebates. A simple price adjustment won't make you eligible for the rebates because you need the sale dates on the sales receipt.
Sal
I'm not sure if I am allowed to do this, but check this out. This one site has real scans of the ads. 8)
http://www.bargainshare.com/index.php?showtopic=45143
http://www.bargainshare.com/index.php?showtopic=45143
VirtualLarry
No Lifer
I used to work for a reseller that did "computer shows" on the weekends. Trust me, every weekend was like that, if it was a busy show. It was a kind of fun job for a hardware tech geek, and I got to know the other dealers and could get stuff for cheap, but setting up and breaking down, especially in the cold months, was rather back-breaking. I stopped doing that after a few years. But yeah, I basically know what you're talking about. You barely have time to eat lunch, and you spend basically all day on your feet, with no real breaks.
Kypermedia suck really bad. I threw out about 40 of them I was so disgusted with them. 2/3/4 burns and sometimes no go. TDK, Memorex & sony no problems exact same copies. Heck even teon is better but not very good either. I prefer TDK but am told they are the same as the memorex. Do not buy the Krapermedias.
VirtualLarry
No Lifer
That's interesting, since TDK, K-Hypermedia, 'ValueDisc', and Memorex, nearly all re-badge CMC-made media. I found out that my OM-purchased 'ValueDisc' 4x DVD+R media were in fact the *exact same* as the TDK 4x DVD+R media that purchased at BB. The difference is that I got 50 of the ValueDiscs for the same price as 25 of the TDKs.
Btw, does anyone else have any problems accessing OfficeMax's "in-store specials" page off of their web site? I noticed that they changed their web site around, and it sits at the page asking for my zip code, endlessly, no matter what I punch in. 🙁
Btw, does anyone else have any problems accessing OfficeMax's "in-store specials" page off of their web site? I noticed that they changed their web site around, and it sits at the page asking for my zip code, endlessly, no matter what I punch in. 🙁
VirtualLarry, my brother and I have different burners he has a Plextor and another one can't remember which brand and I have a Sony and two NEC burners. We have the same problem on with krapermedia DVD+R discs on each of these burners. We are using CloneDVD2 to burn. Memorex and TDK and Sony all work very well while the krapermedia's are absolutely horrible. I could almost never make a copy on the first try with Krapermedia and sometimes would take 2/3/4 and never tried past that so gave up after that. I bought 100 of them and threw out the last unburned 40+ discs I was so disgusted.
Edit: I think I have to explain better exactly what the problem is. You can successfully burn the image with the krapermedia most of the time, but what happens is when you view it the last bit is messed up. The last 10 minutes or have massive tearing that gets worse till the player's (Yes, used several different DVD players) fails to read it. We found that if you take the copy and have DVDshrink scan it as if your going to make a backup it will fail the scan at the end which identifies that if you play it you will have the end all messed up. Put in a TDK or Memorex or Sony and we never have that problem EVER. They all play perfectly and scan with DVDshrink passes. So, the quality control for krapermedia must be horrible. I will never buy them again.
PS. I probably could have gone back to office max and got my money back or something in exchange even without a receipt but I didnt want to bother. I have not used any other Krapermedia products besides the DVD+R so dont know about their other stuff but dont trust them now.
I hope this clarify's the problem and people believe what I am saying. It is not a hardware or software issue it is the MEDIA.
Edit: I think I have to explain better exactly what the problem is. You can successfully burn the image with the krapermedia most of the time, but what happens is when you view it the last bit is messed up. The last 10 minutes or have massive tearing that gets worse till the player's (Yes, used several different DVD players) fails to read it. We found that if you take the copy and have DVDshrink scan it as if your going to make a backup it will fail the scan at the end which identifies that if you play it you will have the end all messed up. Put in a TDK or Memorex or Sony and we never have that problem EVER. They all play perfectly and scan with DVDshrink passes. So, the quality control for krapermedia must be horrible. I will never buy them again.
PS. I probably could have gone back to office max and got my money back or something in exchange even without a receipt but I didnt want to bother. I have not used any other Krapermedia products besides the DVD+R so dont know about their other stuff but dont trust them now.
I hope this clarify's the problem and people believe what I am saying. It is not a hardware or software issue it is the MEDIA.
My DM sent out e-mails about people buying up BF ad stuff, as of now well next 3 hours were not to seel any high ticket stuff thats in the ad until Friday when we open up, and lucky me I'll be out of town and wont have to deal with the BF headache, well except for going shopping on BF.
VirtualLarry
No Lifer
Well, ok, that makes sense. It's pretty well-known that CMC media may have dye-spread problems, and that you don't want to burn much more than 4GB to a cheapo disc.
I was just trying to point out that the TDK 4x DVD+R media, is more likely than not to be identical CMC media as well. You might have gotten RICOHJPN02 instead, if you didn't have similar problems. Ditto for Memorex, as they often re-brand CMC media. IOW, I'm saying that purchasing Memorex or TDK, will not necessarily lead one to avoid the problems possible with CMC media.
It's possible that the K-H CMC media is actually of a lower tier than the media that they sell to other re-branders, it wouldn't surprise me based on the price that most of them usually sell for. Like I said, I'm using the OfficeMax "ValueDisc"-branded media, not the actual K-H branded media, so perhaps there is a quality difference. I've been burning, testing, and playing back only on my ND1300A burner, haven't had a chance to test the burns with a set-top player yet. There have been perhaps 10% of the "ValueDisc" media with problems, some dye issues, some surface scratches or other defects. I've only burned two from my TDK 4x spindle, so can't really say if they are better. The Fuji T-Y 8x DVD+Rs that I got at BB for $20 for 50 are great though, but even they weren't flawless; I had to return the first two spindles because of obvious handling or mfg defects.
I've had problems with K-H CMC-made CD-R media before though too, some of them about a year after they were burned, simply sort of "faded away" and were unreadable. Surprised the heck out of me. Thankfully it wasn't anything important. I use my Verbatim/MCC and T-Y media for "the good stuff".
VirtualLarry
No Lifer
Well, ok. But check the media-codes, that will tell you who really made the media. My 4X ValueDisc and 4X TDK DVD+R are both CMC MAG F01, and I have two differently-packaged spindles of 8x TDK DVD+R, one is CMC MAG E01, and one is RICOHJPN. The CompUSA house-brand "2X" (really, 1X) DVD-R, are PRINCO, and the BB Fuji 8x DVD+R are "YUDEN001T02" or something like that.
Edit: I meant that you can check the media-id of your already-sucessfully-burnt discs. 😛
Samus
Golden Member
if that brother hl-1440 laser printer is 99 out the door, thats a killer price too. lowest those usually run is 130 + shipping online.
TN-430 toner costs 40-50 bucks and the DR400 drums (only needed after 20-25,000 pages) only runs 90. toner yeilds between 3000-6000 pages.
solid printers, i've had one for 2 years and have put over 40,000 pages on it. unfortunately it needs a maintainence kit that only costs 25 bucks but replaces the rollers that will involve hours of work 🙁 so I might be picking one up.
TN-430 toner costs 40-50 bucks and the DR400 drums (only needed after 20-25,000 pages) only runs 90. toner yeilds between 3000-6000 pages.
solid printers, i've had one for 2 years and have put over 40,000 pages on it. unfortunately it needs a maintainence kit that only costs 25 bucks but replaces the rollers that will involve hours of work 🙁 so I might be picking one up.
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