office 2007 is so ugly

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why are we stuck with the bubbly, shiny, gradient-y, blue silver and black theme?

why isnt there a "windows-classic theme" not that shiny shit?
 

sdifox

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the colour scheme will be the least of your problem after you spend some time with it.
 

Chryso

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Because they can't charge you more money for something you already have.
 

jlee

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I've heard that Office 07 is a significant improvement over previous versions..is that wrong?
 

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Originally posted by: JLee
I've heard that Office 07 is a significant improvement over previous versions..is that wrong?

It works fine for what it's designed for. People complain about the stupidest crap... just like Vista doesn't work worth shit... :roll:
 

jlee

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Originally posted by: SunnyD
Originally posted by: JLee
I've heard that Office 07 is a significant improvement over previous versions..is that wrong?

It works fine for what it's designed for. People complain about the stupidest crap... just like Vista doesn't work worth shit... :roll:

I bought a laptop with Vista *(two days ago)..it BSOD'd about a day into its career with me. :eek:
 

biggestmuff

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I used to like Office 07. I used it during the preview/open beta period and decided to buy two copies. Now, it has become annoying because I use 07 at home and the previous Office version at work. It's frustrating jumping back and forth between the two. More so since I don't use my Office 07 as much.
 

gorcorps

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Originally posted by: SunnyD
Originally posted by: JLee
I've heard that Office 07 is a significant improvement over previous versions..is that wrong?

It works fine for what it's designed for. People complain about the stupidest crap... just like Vista doesn't work worth shit... :roll:

Excel is a huge step backwards in chart construction. It was never good but at least I knew how to do the things I needed to. Now I can't even do that.
 

KoolDrew

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I personally have no problems at all with the ribbon and thinks it makes things a lot more logical and organized
 

jlee

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Originally posted by: gorcorps
Originally posted by: SunnyD
Originally posted by: JLee
I've heard that Office 07 is a significant improvement over previous versions..is that wrong?

It works fine for what it's designed for. People complain about the stupidest crap... just like Vista doesn't work worth shit... :roll:

Excel is a huge step backwards in chart construction. It was never good but at least I knew how to do the things I needed to. Now I can't even do that.

Someone just told me this morning that they liked Excel 07 better than the old version. :p
 

dullard

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Originally posted by: JLee
I've heard that Office 07 is a significant improvement over previous versions..is that wrong?
With Word, it isn't too different. The SmartArt is vastly improved, but still dreadfully limited (what I mean is that it looks really good, but if you want to customize it, you are likely screwed). The equation editor is improved, but it screws up your old equations from old versions and you can't load the 07 equations into older versions. The styles selection was completely revamped, but a bit more powerful and a lot more buggy. Native PDF use is a good thing, although there were add-ins for older versions that worked just fine. Other than that, I don't see much change other than the screen-wasting ribbon.

With Excel, you get no real benefits that I can see other than slightly more attractive graphs. However, that ribbon gives you major headaches. Instead of clicking on a graph and getting one tabbed window with everything you need, you now must alternate between two ribbon tabs and a dozen of difficult, confusing, and slow to use icons to attempt to change things. For example, suppose you want to put in axes titles:
[*]In old versions you click on the graph and type in the titles in one window.
[*]Now, you click on the graph, click layout, click axes, click primary horizontal axis, click show, click axes title (if the ribbon reset to home, then first click layout AGAIN), click primary horizontal title, click title below axes, the graph doesn't update, so move it to make room, click on the title, type the horizontal title, click axes, click primary vertical axis, click show, click axes title (if the ribbon reset to home, then first click layout AGAIN), click primary vertical title, click title below axes, the graph doesn't update, so move it to make room, click on the title, type the vertical title, repeat with all other axes (if the ribbon reset to home, then first click layout AGAIN and AGAIN).
Originally posted by: SunnyD
It works fine for what it's designed for. People complain about the stupidest crap... just like Vista doesn't work worth shit... :roll:
See above Excel example. THAT is why people hate the ribbon. Taking a 30 second task and making it a 5 minute task is worthy of complaining. Do that dozens of times a day and you realize that it isn't stupid crap.


Edit: I forgot stupid placements in my rant. In older versions, to add a row or column, you clicked insert then the appropriate row or column menu option. Now, you click insert on the ribbon and nothing is there. You have to click HOME to insert a row. Why the fuc& didn't they put the insert row or insert column in the INSERT ribbon?
 

Kelvrick

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Originally posted by: JLee
Originally posted by: gorcorps
Originally posted by: SunnyD
Originally posted by: JLee
I've heard that Office 07 is a significant improvement over previous versions..is that wrong?

It works fine for what it's designed for. People complain about the stupidest crap... just like Vista doesn't work worth shit... :roll:

Excel is a huge step backwards in chart construction. It was never good but at least I knew how to do the things I needed to. Now I can't even do that.

Someone just told me this morning that they liked Excel 07 better than the old version. :p

Only thing I like more is that it extended the maximum number of columns/rows. Other than that, the ribbon is fucken stupid. I spent a day just going through and adding everythign to that stupid "quick access" toolbar so I don't have to go to 5 different ribbons whenever I want to do anything.

It is also almost impossible to tell which cells you have selected when you do it using CTRL and having multiple selections. They shade it a white cell the same color as 100 gallons of white paint and 1 drop of black paint.

That, and I thought the "different first page" option would allow me different headers across worksheets, but it only does the different first page on the first worksheet! So, instead of doing "Auto" on the page numbers, I still have to fucken number every single worksheet.
 

darkxshade

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I know it's a stupid reason but I prefer the older versions for the classic look. Good thing they haven't upgraded at work. Not that I need any of the "improvements" since I can do my work just fine on 2003.
 

Farang

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I don't see how anyone can think 2007 is not an improvement.. I feel deprived only having 03 on my laptop
 

dullard

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Originally posted by: Farang
I don't see how anyone can think 2007 is not an improvement.. I feel deprived only having 03 on my laptop
Comment on my rant above.
 

BassBomb

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Personally I think it LOOKS nicer but I've always been one to prefer a hideous yet fully functional easy to use (once you learn it) design.

I can't find anything in the new Word or Excel.
 

Farang

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Originally posted by: dullard
Originally posted by: Farang
I don't see how anyone can think 2007 is not an improvement.. I feel deprived only having 03 on my laptop
Comment on my rant above.

I mostly deal with styles and in that regard Word 07 is extremely powerful compared to 03, especially because it is so much easier to navigate for me so I can really play around with a document with ease. 03 seemed to discourage style use by making it clunky to deal with, so I like the new interface in 07
 

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My keyboard shortcuts still work and visually things work better, it's just a headfcuk for those who were used to certain things. I think the placement of some commands could have been thought out better though but overall it's an improvement, especially for new users.

For those who cannot live, someone did post a plug-in which makes Office2007 have 2003 menus here but I cannot remember where.
 

dullard

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Originally posted by: Farang
I mostly deal with styles and in that regard Word 07 is extremely powerful compared to 03, especially because it is so much easier to navigate for me so I can really play around with a document with ease. 03 seemed to discourage style use by making it clunky to deal with, so I like the new interface in 07
Maybe you could help me, since you work with them a lot. I still have lots of trouble with styles in 07. I mostly work with the full styles list (down right arrow on the bottom of the styles tab in the Home ribbon, or press alt-ctrl-shift-S). How come in 1/3rd of the documents that I use, I can't delete styles that I or someone else has created even if the styles are no longer in use? I'd like to keep that styles list to a managable number of styles. Also, when Word refuses to change a style of text, what do I do then? For example, I select the text that I want to change, I select a new style, and 10% of the time Word 07 does nothing. I've tried closing the document, closing Word, rebooting, etc. The only way I can do it sometimes is to completely retype the whole section.