***Offficial Rock Band 2 Thread****

[Kev]

Hmmm... I've only heard of 2 of those bands and that's because of their shitty songs in previous GH/RB games.

 

[tdawg]

Originally posted by: Kev
Hmmm... I've only heard of 2 of those bands and that's because of their shitty songs in previous GH/RB games.

Yeah, my friend and I are not fans of the Lacuna Coil song that is already present in the game, so I can't imagine I'll be adding these other two!

BTW, how's the new 20-song pack? I haven't had time to dl it yet. Anything good? (not specifically directed at Kev)

 

[Oyeve]

Lacuna Coil - Swamped


Awesomeness. I love that song.

 

[bl4ckfl4g]

I only know the Dead Kennedy's. Except that one Lacuna Coil song in RB2. I think it isn't too bad though.

 

[Wardawg1001]

Beatles in RockBand will be f'ing awesome.

 

[gorcorps]

Originally posted by: Wardawg1001
Beatles in RockBand will be f'ing awesome.

It's not rockband, that's a separate game.

 

[RandomFool]

Originally posted by: tdawg

Originally posted by: Kev
Hmmm... I've only heard of 2 of those bands and that's because of their shitty songs in previous GH/RB games.

Yeah, my friend and I are not fans of the Lacuna Coil song that is already present in the game, so I can't imagine I'll be adding these other two!

BTW, how's the new 20-song pack? I haven't had time to dl it yet. Anything good? (not specifically directed at Kev)

It's ok. I had only heard of one of the bands previously. There are a few songs I like and a few I don't, mainly the heavy metal ones. It's definitely worth the price of admission.

 

[ShOcKwAvE827]

Some of the 20 free songs are really fun on drums. Prequel to the Sequel is awesome, if you're good enough to pass it!

 

[UpgradeFailure]

Question if someone could help me out here:

I paid the $5 and transfered all my RB1 songs to my 360 HD so when I got RB2 I wouldnt need the disc. Well, I havent gotten RB2 yet and honestly I dont think i will for another few months. I was thinking of deleting all the RB1 songs off my HD so I can have free space to install a game when the NXE comes out.

I was wondering if anyone knows, since I already paid, if I delete all my RB1 songs, can I re-transfer them to my HD again at a later date if I delete them now?

 

[CKDragon]

Originally posted by: UpgradeFailure
Question if someone could help me out here:

I paid the $5 and transfered all my RB1 songs to my 360 HD so when I got RB2 I wouldnt need the disc. Well, I havent gotten RB2 yet and honestly I dont think i will for another few months. I was thinking of deleting all the RB1 songs off my HD so I can have free space to install a game when the NXE comes out.

I was wondering if anyone knows, since I already paid, if I delete all my RB1 songs, can I re-transfer them to my HD again at a later date if I delete them now?

I'm not 100% certain, but I believe I read that you can re-export them as many times as you'd like.

 

[jdport]

i'm not 100% sure either, but it would make sense that once you've purchased the license you can re-download them all you want....

 

[UpgradeFailure]

I went for it and just deleted the stuff (Free'd up 2 gigs). I figure it was only 5 bucks if something went wrong, oh well.

 

[Oyeve]

Originally posted by: jdport
i'm not 100% sure either, but it would make sense that once you've purchased the license you can re-download them all you want....

Yep, you can, I have done it like 5 times already.

 

[Aikouka]

*Casts Raise Dead on the thread*

So I like listening to Muse sometimes and they've got some interesting "RIFFS" (as you young hipsters call them) in their songs. Now through some very clever research (going to Wikipedia and using CTRL+F), I found that both RB2 and GHWT have Muse songs... although the Rock Band one was a DLC released for the original (which of course is usable in both). So I bought the Rock Band 2 set and the Guitar Hero World Tour game, because I heard the drums from GHWT had issues with RB2.

I tried the Rock Band guitar with Muse's Hysteria and well... I was just terribad. After being a bit frustrated about three-star'ing a song, I went and decided to go unlock Muse's Assassin in GHWT. I switched to my GH3 guitar and had absolutely no problem playing. I went back to Rock Band 2 later at night and did so much better with the GH3 guitar... anyone else completely unable to conform to the RB guitar?

Oh and I believe I remember hearing that RB has an internal music store (a front end to the XBL/PSN store essentially)... is this any better than browing XBL for songs? I was poking around last night, but when looking down and seeing "Page 3 of 31" I gave up even looking any further... the setup works for a game with a couple fucking picture packs, but Rock Band simply has too many DLC options for XBL! Knowing how PSN's setup is, I doubt it's any better there.

Oh and as a status report, I still haven't unlocked Assassin... looking at Wikipedia, it seems to be in Time Square, which I assume is near the end? I think I've cleared about six sets/gigs so far.

EDIT:

I must appease the gods.

 

[oznerol]

I prefer the RB guitar over the GH one. I like the flat buttons and longer neck. I haven't used the GHWT one, though. Generally it's just a matter of personal preference. But I will say I played a ton of GH before Rock Band came out and was very used to the GH guitar, but eventually the RB guitar grew on me and now it's all I use. Do you play on easy/medium? I think the GH guitar is better for those, because you get a solid feel for each fret since they stick out and are separated by a space. But the RB one is better once you have a solid feel for the notes and need to quickly switch your hand placement. The RB one also feels more like a "real" guitar - every time I use the GH one I feel like I'm playing a ukulele.

The Rock Band in-game store is much better than using the PSN/Live browser, mainly because it lets you preview the songs and view difficulties - it also organizes everything better. The only downside that I've found is that you can't queue up downloads there like you can through Live (I assume PSN as well) - you need to wait for every download to finish before you can pick a new one. It also used to constantly repeat the same preview clip over and over while downloading - which got annoying. But they since fixed that with RB2.

 

[gorcorps]

Originally posted by: Aikouka
*Casts Raise Dead on the thread*

So I like listening to Muse sometimes and they've got some interesting "rifts" (as you young hipsters call them) in their songs. Now through some very clever research (going to Wikipedia and using CTRL+F), I found that both RB2 and GHWT have Muse songs... although the Rock Band one was a DLC released for the original (which of course is usable in both). So I bought the Rock Band 2 set and the Guitar Hero World Tour game, because I heard the drums from GHWT had issues with RB2.

I tried the Rock Band guitar with Muse's Hysteria and well... I was just terribad. After being a bit frustrated about three-star'ing a song, I went and decided to go unlock Muse's Assassin in GHWT. I switched to my GH3 guitar and had absolutely no problem playing. I went back to Rock Band 2 later at night and did so much better with the GH3 guitar... anyone else completely unable to conform to the RB guitar?

Oh and I believe I remember hearing that RB has an internal music store (a front end to the XBL/PSN store essentially)... is this any better than browing XBL for songs? I was poking around last night, but when looking down and seeing "Page 3 of 31" I gave up even looking any further... the setup works for a game with a couple fucking picture packs, but Rock Band simply has too many DLC options for XBL! Knowing how PSN's setup is, I doubt it's any better there.

Oh and as a status report, I still haven't unlocked Assassin... looking at Wikipedia, it seems to be in Time Square, which I assume is near the end? I think I've cleared about six sets/gigs so far.

First, they're called RIFFS not RIFTS.

Second, I really enjoy the RB guitars but there are plenty that prefer the GH controller instead. That's why there's cross compatibility now I guess.

Third, the internal RB store is WORLDS better than just browsing through XBL. You can browse by artist, or song pack, or new releases, and then preview the songs before you buy them. There's no reason to use XBL or PSN directly when the store in RB works so well.

 

[Aikouka]

Originally posted by: ducci
I prefer the RB guitar over the GH one. I like the flat buttons and longer neck. I haven't used the GHWT one, though. Generally it's just a matter of personal preference. But I will say I played a ton of GH before Rock Band came out and was very used to the GH guitar, but eventually the RB guitar grew on me and now it's all I use. Do you play on easy/medium? I think the GH guitar is better for those, because you get a solid feel for each fret since they stick out and are separated by a space. But the RB one is better once you have a solid feel for the notes and need to quickly switch your hand placement. The RB one also feels more like a "real" guitar - every time I use the GH one I feel like I'm playing a ukulele.

Yeah, I play on Medium and usually 4/5 star every song, but I still can't handle Hard mode. I think the issue for me is with the strum bar more than the buttons themselves... I mean, as long as I'm on the buttons, I'm fine, but it's that clacky response I get from the guitar (that's annoying and) just feels right. Although, I do play the instrument weird and usually do naughty things such a slide my hand down to handle certain sections (I don't like using my pinky that much... I don't even use it for typing). But that's not surprising if you saw how I hold a pencil .

Originally posted by: ducci
The Rock Band in-game store is much better than using the PSN/Live browser, mainly because it lets you preview the songs and view difficulties - it also organizes everything better. The only downside that I've found is that you can't queue up downloads there like you can through Live (I assume PSN as well) - you need to wait for every download to finish before you can pick a new one. It also used to constantly repeat the same preview clip over and over while downloading - which got annoying. But they since fixed that with RB2.

That's kind of what I was figuring... I'll have to look at them there then. Also, by "pick a new one" does that include even looking around? In other words, when you say "give me this song", you're stuck on a download screen until it completes?

Oh and the tips of my fingers are sore today after playing too much .

EDIT:

Originally posted by: gorcorps
First, they're called RIFFS not RIFTS.

Oh sorry, great master of music for I have sinned!

Do you want me to edit your post for grammar next time? 'cause I'm pretty sure I see some mistakes in it already .

 

[gorcorps]

Originally posted by: Aikouka

EDIT:

Originally posted by: gorcorps
First, they're called RIFFS not RIFTS.

Oh sorry, great master of music for I have sinned!

Do you want me to edit your post for grammar next time? 'cause I'm pretty sure I see some mistakes in it already .

I figured since you were going out of your way to use the term, you'd want to get it right. Sorry for offending your delicate sensibilities and I'll PM you first to ask permission next time to ensure the least amount of detriment to your pathetic excuse of an existence.

As for the grammar, go nuts! But seriously, check out the RB store. They put it there for a reason as it's really nice.

 

[Aikouka]

Originally posted by: gorcorps
I figured since you were going out of your way to use the term, you'd want to get it right. Sorry for offending your delicate sensibilities and I'll PM you first to ask permission next time to ensure the least amount of detriment to your pathetic excuse of an existence.

Apology accepted! Just don't be a douche next time, 'k?

 

[Oyeve]

I personally prefer the RB guitar because I hate the clacking sound that the GH guitars make. But, lately I have been using the Madcatz Fender Bass replica. Mostly for bass lines and the split strum and because it is closer to the size of a real guitar, but it does clack a little of extremely fast notes in guitar mode. But overall its a pretty nice guitar. I also like the flat fret buttons on RB guitars because I like to slide on songs that utilize the orange button. I am musch more accurate when I slide so the flatness is great for me. The GH guitars are bubble buttons and are further apart so sliding doenst work so well.

 

[Aikouka]

Originally posted by: Oyeve
I personally prefer the RB guitar because I hate the clacking sound that the GH guitars make. But, lately I have been using the Madcatz Fender Bass replica. Mostly for bass lines and the split strum and because it is closer to the size of a real guitar, but it does clack a little of extremely fast notes in guitar mode. But overall its a pretty nice guitar. I also like the flat fret buttons on RB guitars because I like to slide on songs that utilize the orange button. I am musch more accurate when I slide so the flatness is great for me. The GH guitars are bubble buttons and are further apart so sliding doenst work so well.

I find that sometimes when I slide down, I tend to have a poor time finding my way back and I'll start hitting red instead of green and all my notes are shifted as such . I can't imagine how bad it'll be if I introduce orange via Hard/Expert.

I wonder if the clacking and the tactile response of it just serves as a good indicator for me at this point. I mean, I could pass songs on the RB guitar, but after playing the song maybe 3-4 times on the GH guitar, I've already doubled my score. That could also be a mix of simply getting better too, as I originally scored a couple thousand off of what I did with the RB guitar.

 

[jdport]

Although, I do play the instrument weird and usually do naughty things such a slide my hand down to handle certain sections (I don't like using my pinky that much... I don't even use it for typing).

Sliding your hand down isn't a bad thing! That's how a lot of people play. I know I slide my hand up and down the guitar all the time... I'd never be able to play on hard, let alone expert if I didn't. Sometimes you just have to use the pinky, but much of the time you'll be far better off in terms of speed and accuracy by sliding your hand to use "stronger" fingers. Especially if it's a spot with quick back and forth fingering such as a trill or something like that.
You should work on using your pinky too, but being able to slide your hand is an important skill for playing hard and expert songs.

 

[Aikouka]

Originally posted by: jdport
Sliding your hand down isn't a bad thing! That's how a lot of people play. I know I slide my hand up and down the guitar all the time... I'd never be able to play on hard, let alone expert if I didn't. Sometimes you just have to use the pinky, but much of the time you'll be far better off in terms of speed and accuracy by sliding your hand to use "stronger" fingers. Especially if it's a spot with quick back and forth fingering such as a trill or something like that.
You should work on using your pinky too, but being able to slide your hand is an important skill for playing hard and expert songs.

Oh . I thought I was just being weird, 'cause I never do anything the way you're supposed to (the way I hold a pencil makes it look like I have some sort of weird hand-contorting disease!). I did notice that I tend to have these spurts in game where I'll just play and I literally don't even feel like I'm controlling myself... I don't even see the screen and I just keep going. It's so odd... and then there's the sign that I've been playing too long where my eyes glaze over and I can't even see the screen anymore. It's like someone coated my glasses with Crisco.

EDIT: I also kind of got the no-sliding thing from watching my brother play (does pretty well on Expert) and I don't think he does? Maybe he does and I just didn't notice. It kind of reminds me of when I started playing DDR and went from one of those people that keeps to the middle to someone that keeps their feet wherever they land (which is how you're supposed to play).

 

[Oyeve]

Originally posted by: jdport

Although, I do play the instrument weird and usually do naughty things such a slide my hand down to handle certain sections (I don't like using my pinky that much... I don't even use it for typing).

Sliding your hand down isn't a bad thing! That's how a lot of people play. I know I slide my hand up and down the guitar all the time... I'd never be able to play on hard, let alone expert if I didn't. Sometimes you just have to use the pinky, but much of the time you'll be far better off in terms of speed and accuracy by sliding your hand to use "stronger" fingers. Especially if it's a spot with quick back and forth fingering such as a trill or something like that.
You should work on using your pinky too, but being able to slide your hand is an important skill for playing hard and expert songs.

Yeah, I guess being that I play real guitar and real bass and really sliding on real guitars has made me pretty good playing with fake guitars in expert modes. The flat RB fret is great for that. I do find the clakity clack of the GH guitars help me with the timing of the songs but as a guitarist I usually get into the sound and basically ignore the counting of colors and just go with the flow so to speak.

 

[Aikouka]

Originally posted by: Oyeve
Yeah, I guess being that I play real guitar and real bass and really sliding on real guitars has made me pretty good playing with fake guitars in expert modes. The flat RB fret is great for that. I do find the clakity clack of the GH guitars help me with the timing of the songs but as a guitarist I usually get into the sound and basically ignore the counting of colors and just go with the flow so to speak.

Yeah, it looks like it'd be easier if I had a better grasp on some musical basics or at least remembered them from my 5th grade music class . Sometimes during long streaks of notes ( usually the rather fast ones ), I cannot get them all perfectly as I just don't have the proper spacing. My brother will be all "oh 16th notes" and just goes along with it (he did band and choir quite a bit, so he knows music a ton better than I do). There was this one song in GHWT last night that had a ton of really closely spaced notes and I had maybe 80% accuracy during it. It was rather long of a streak, so I tried doing up and down strumming rather than just down, but that didn't seem to help.

Oh and I'm kind of deviating into GHWT, but people are so nerdy . I went and looked at the fan-made stuff in GHWT and someone made Final Fantasy songs for it (Those Who Fight Further (also called Still More Fighting) and One Winged Angel of course). But I don't think that's nearly as bad as me downloading said songs . I'm tempted to play Those Who Fight Further, 'cause it's one of my favorite songs from FFVII.