"Off the Record"? - GOP Chairman Ohio

[jackstar7]

http://gawker.com/5936990/ohio-repu...use-he-thought-he-was-speaking-off-the-record

After Ohio's Secretary of State Jon Husted announced last week that early-voting sites across the state would only be open on weekdays, many felt the restriction would unfairly impact "working people" in general, and minorities in particular.

Doug Priesse, chairman of the Republican Party in Franklin County (where the state capital is located) and a top adviser to Governor John Kasich was not among them.

"I guess I really actually feel we shouldn't contort the voting process to accommodate the urban - read African-American - voter-turnout machine," he told the The Dispatch in an email.

Ohio Democratic Party chairman Chris Redfern called Preisse's remark "patently racist," and a "flat out" admission that the Ohio Republican Party sought to use limited early-voting hours "to disenfranchise African-American voters."

Sticking up for Preisse, executive director of the Ohio Republican Party Matt Borges told the paper that Preisse "thought his comments...were off the record."

I'd like to better understand what contortion is required to accommodate the "urban voter turnout machine". Sadly, I don't imagine I will find any insight into that issue.

 

[a777pilot]

Why should Republicans, that are now in charge, do anything to help the Democrats? Democrats have never gone out of their way to help Republicans. It's called politics.

"I guess I really actually feel we shouldn't contort the voting process to accommodate the urban - read African-American - voter-turnout machine," he told the The Dispatch in an email.

Just out of curiosity, did Mr. Priesse actually say "read African American" or is this just an editorial comment?

 

[jackstar7]

Let's click the link and find out!

http://www.dispatch.com/content/sto...ight-over-poll-hours-isnt-just-political.html

Well, the Dispatch has that exact quote...

“I guess I really actually feel we shouldn’t contort the voting process to accommodate the urban — read African-American — voter-turnout machine,” said Doug Preisse, chairman of the county Republican Party and elections board member who voted against weekend hours, in an email to The Dispatch. “Let’s be fair and reasonable.”

And I sure don't expect Republicans to help their opponents to participate in the process. They've made it clear 'gaming' is the path to winning, rather than making a better and convincing argument.

"Really actually". Some people really ought to proofread.

 

[sunzt]

Why should Republicans, that are now in charge, do anything to help the Democrats? Democrats have never gone out of their way to help Republicans. It's called politics.



Just out of curiosity, did Mr. Priesse actually say "read African American" or is this just an editorial comment?

It's not about Dem vs Reps, it's about offering all citizens the opportunity to vote without leaving their jobs to do it. They should simply do the voting on a weekend, and offer late hours.

 

[berzerker60]

Why should Republicans, that are now in charge, do anything to help the Democrats? Democrats have never gone out of their way to help Republicans. It's called politics.

Because 1) African American doesn't have to mean Democratic - that is does is a result of Republican racist policies and statement like this one; and 2) getting Americans to vote is an unambiguous, nonpartisan Good Thing, and that very much includes troops overseas and the very rural who vote Republican.

(Note that Priesse might well not be the least bit racist, but his statements and the policy he's following definitely are)

Just out of curiosity, did Mr. Priesse actually say "read African American" or is this just an editorial comment?

It's a direct quote according to several articles I just googled.

Don't worry, he has a good excuse - he thought his racist comments were off the record:
http://www.cleveland.com/open/index.ssf/2012/08/comment_from_kasich_advisor_se.html

Frankly I think Election Day should be a national holiday, meaning no one has to go to work and we don't need such extended voting hours and early voting.

 

[Bird222]

It's not about Dem vs Reps, it's about offering all citizens the opportunity to vote without leaving their jobs to do it. They should simply do the voting on a weekend, and offer late hours.

This. When did we decide in this country (the supposed beacon of democracy) that it is better for fewer citizens to vote than more?

 

[jackstar7]

This. When did we decide in this country (the supposed beacon of democracy) that it is better for fewer citizens to vote than more?

We didn't. They did when they realized they weren't likely to win by any other means.

 

[thraashman]

This. When did we decide in this country (the supposed beacon of democracy) that it is better for fewer citizens to vote than more?

Um ... when Republicans made gains in 2010 and realized that the easiest way to win elections was to prevent those who would vote against them from being able to vote. At least that's when Republicans decided, Democrats actually want more people to vote and try their best to make that happen.

 

[Phokus]

Why should Republicans, that are now in charge, do anything to help the Democrats? Democrats have never gone out of their way to help Republicans. It's called politics.



Just out of curiosity, did Mr. Priesse actually say "read African American" or is this just an editorial comment?

So it's ok for whites to get extended voting hours but african americans to not get the same treatment. Gotcha. Racist.

 

[a777pilot]

How many times am I going to have to post this?

Here......again, is my voting policy.

1. All American citizens that want to vote and are eligible to vote, should vote.

2. No non-citizens, dead people, made up people or multiple voting should be allowed.

3. All votes cast and ONLY those votes cast should be counted.

I don't see am ambiguity there. I could be wrong.

As to the "You are a racist" comments. Please refer back to my predictions of many months ago when I said that obama has but two issues to run on: Redistribution of wealth and Racism.

If one would do a bit of thinking one would see that it is the Democrat Party that is racist. It started with the War on Poverty and Voting Rights legislation by LBJ. See if you can think it through.

 

[a777pilot]

Democrats actually want more people to vote and try their best to make that happen.

LOL!

I'll give you that. They most surly do try. The problem is that those they try to get to vote are illegals, non-citizens, the made up, the dead, and those that will vote many times in the same election.

 

[Genx87]

Heh when was there a time in this country when we werent restricting somebody's right to vote? Who was and wasnt allowed to initially vote in this country when it was formed?

That said I do think it is time we moved the election date to a Saturday. It is a rather outdated system we have voting in the middle of the week. I suspect it is a holdover from a time when people worked on farms and had to drive into town to vote on a horse and buggy.

 

[Nemesis 1]

When it says [Read African American} that means those words were not used but Demons have implied such.

 

[Nemesis 1]

Let's click the link and find out!

http://www.dispatch.com/content/sto...ight-over-poll-hours-isnt-just-political.html

Well, the Dispatch has that exact quote...



And I sure don't expect Republicans to help their opponents to participate in the process. They've made it clear 'gaming' is the path to winning, rather than making a better and convincing argument.

"Really actually". Some people really ought to proofread.

The dispatch has the qoute they WROTE as the other party only spoke . Read African american was what the washington post . added to what they wanted it to mean . Not reality .

 

[Jaepheth]

I think the real problem is that the phrase "off the record" exists at all.

It's complete bullshit. If you say it, it should be quotable and you should have the integrity to stand behind whatever you say.

 

[cybrsage]

That said I do think it is time we moved the election date to a Saturday. It is a rather outdated system we have voting in the middle of the week.

Buses run a very limited schedule on the weekends. It would be much harder for those in a city to vote on a weekend.

 

[jackstar7]

I think the real problem is that the phrase "off the record" exists at all.

It's complete bullshit. If you say it, it should be quotable and you should have the integrity to stand behind whatever you say.

Please no.

This would only lead to a lack of sources for actual news. Everything would forever just be press releases and PR departments, no unpackaged or unfiltered information.

 

[EagleKeeper]

It's not about Dem vs Reps, it's about offering all citizens the opportunity to vote without leaving their jobs to do it. They should simply do the voting on a weekend, and offer late hours.

Early voting or absentee works very well.

 

[a777pilot]

When it says [Read African American} that means those words were not used but Demons have implied such.

Thanks.

Then the article writer just assumed such. Wonderful reporting.

 

[cybrsage]

The Obamites ate it up, which was his target audience anyway.

 

[RampantAndroid]

Thanks.

Then the article writer just assumed such. Wonderful reporting.

Kinda what I figured, and was afraid of. Awesome job on reporting...

 

[Jhhnn]

If one would do a bit of thinking one would see that it is the Democrat Party that is racist. It started with the War on Poverty and Voting Rights legislation by LBJ. See if you can think it through.

That's easy. The civil rights movement ended the era of Jim Crow, of black voter supression, and any claims to the contrary require some truly distorted racist thinking.

You're living down to your expectations, no doubt.

 

[Jhhnn]

There's no reason other than the comfort of denial to think that the Columbus Dispatch misquoted him- he never claimed that they did.

Berzerker already posted a pertinent link, but our Righties don't read links, as usual.

Ohio Repubs have maintained dishonesty in the face of being busted for voter supression tactics, which is unsurprising.The state has the right to set early voting days & hours, if any, and have an obligation to do so uniformly, statewide. That was not their original intent, at all, as Repub districts were granted early voting & extended hours while Dem--- read african american--- leaning districts were denied the same.

The issue has been settled in an equitable way, but not for lack of trying on the part of Ohio Repubs.

Claims to the contrary are dishonest.

 

[a777pilot]

That's easy. The civil rights movement ended the era of Jim Crow, of black voter supression, and any claims to the contrary require some truly distorted racist thinking.

You're living down to your expectations, no doubt.

I have no problem with getting rid of all types of restrictions to actual US citizens that are eligible to vote, voting.

What the Democrats did was build a "plantation" of false promises of government money. Once the blacks were on the government dole and believed that the government was their best new friend, they were hooked. Their families were destroyed and they were doomed to a life of failure. Of course I can say that. What do blacks call those blacks that study and work? Being white. How sad.

Yes, it is the Democrat Party that has ensured the blacks fail. Some of the blacks are starting to see through the veils of lies. The Democrats and their lap dogs, the MSM, hate that. hey want all the blacks on the plantation where they will do the bidding of their masters.....the Democrats.

 

[berzerker60]

Man, there's just no talking to someone that wrapped up in bigoted nonsense. Unpacking it would take forever, and would require some shared basis for facts (for example, commonly accepted understandings of American history based on archival records and other historical research) that I suspect would just be labeled additional liberal lies.