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jobberd

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<< and just a word of warning to all the mindless bashers - no I am not athiest because I think its cool. >>

I hope you weren't referring to my post :eek: I did not accuse everyone that was atheist of being followers, I was saying that lots of the people on this board are atheists simply because it is the cool thing to be. They are atheist for other people's reasons. Of course, I base this simply on posts and attitude, so there's a large chance I could be completely wrong :)
 

lawaris

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Any preoccupation of what is right or wrong is an indicator of arrested intellectual development
 

Barnaby W. Füi

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<< (directed to athiests)

Just curious how you feel about life after death? I mean, do you think you just die and that's it? I'm just wondering what your view is on that.

Please don't be harsh, just inquiring.
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i believe its exactly like before you are born. you just cease to exist. until i see good evidence that proves otherwise, then i will continue to believe that, although i dont reject the possibility of it being different.
 

Barnaby W. Füi

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<< As far as I'm concerned, death is the end. You die and thats it. Your "soul" or "spirit" or whatever does not live on; you do not live happily ever after in some afterlife, you just end. I think the concept of heaven and the afterlife was created to allay people's fear of death. Its like a security blanket.

I think it would be great if there is an afterlife, but I dont believe in it.
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I have personally experienced what some would call the "spirit world ". I have had many "out of body" experiences and I know they were not a dream. You can experiment with them and see for yourself. But they scared the crap out of me so I don't willingly participate in them anymore.

I know some people are going to call me a kook or whatever, maybe say that it was a dream. All I ask is that you don't write me off as someone living in a fantasy world. Anyone can do it, many books have been written about OBE's by respectable individuals, also literature can be found about near death experiences. This is no mere coincidence. I believe the two are directly related to the "afterlife".

I bet it would take no more than 3 months for someone here to seriously experience this phenomenon if they had an open mind and the strength to try.

My first experience: consciousness awakened to this exhilerating feeling only to find my body and all that is associated with, feelings, sight, smell, and presence 3 inches from the ceiling, scared. Wooosh, back in my body with extra-gravity force. I was totally awake in spirit world and afterward in the physical. It was real. I promise.
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interesting, but are you aware of the capabilities of the human brain? it controls all of your consciousness, it IS your consciousness, so what does an OBE prove as far as proving that there is an afterlife?

IMO, absolutely nothing.

there are plenty of scientific studies that show that lack of oxygen to the brain, among other circumstances, can cause an OBE.

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Barnaby W. Füi

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<< Just curious how you feel about life after death? I mean, do you think you just die and that's it? I'm just wondering what your view is on that >>




Why wonder about something no one has seen or proved.

There is a saying in GITA : Do your duty without wondering about what u will get in the end.

It is the same with life - just do your best and that's it !

These sort of questions are too difficult to answer b'cos they depend on one's belief - If I answer that in any way I would be imposing my belief on you!

Death and Life are just words coined up to explain things still inexplicable to man !
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i agree.