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Originally posted by: dullard
Originally posted by: waggy
well then the pizza thing is free then after the 1st use eh? so that makes your argument useless.
Not before you buy it. Probably 99% of people in the US have ranges already and 1% have the Pizza Pizzazz. Thus, it is clear that in MOST CASES to use the Pizzazz it'll cost a lot of money (to buy it) when you already have something that does the same job.

Can you please tell me what is hard to understand about that? Then I'll edit my posts to make it more clear.

Should we buy a new car each time we want to drive to a new destination? Or should we realize that we probably already have a car and can use that? It costs money to buy things we don't have. What is "useless" about the desire to use perfectly good items we have instead of buying new items?

your analogy is obtuse. A better comparison wiuld be to say that you want to buy a motorcycle when you already have a car.
 

Ramma2

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Originally posted by: dullard
Originally posted by: waggy
well then the pizza thing is free then after the 1st use eh? so that makes your argument useless.
Not before you buy it. Probably 99% of people in the US have ranges already and 1% have the Pizza Pizzazz. Thus, it is clear that in MOST CASES to use the Pizzazz it'll cost a lot of money (to buy it) when you already have something that does the same job.

Can you please tell me what is hard to understand about that? Then I'll edit my posts to make it more clear.

Should we buy a new car each time we want to drive to a new destination? Or should we realize that we probably already have a car and can use that? It costs money to buy things we don't have. What is "useless" about the desire to use perfectly good items we have instead of buying new items?


Why buy an Mp3 player when you have a home audio device?
 

Lonyo

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Originally posted by: MikeyIs4Dcats
Originally posted by: dullard
Oven for pizza cooking: free and done in 15-20 minutes.
Stovetop for pizza cooking: free and done in 25 minutes.
Toaster oven for pizza cooking: $30 and done in 15 minutes.
Pizza Pizzazz: $80.


The Pizzazz is only $30, and the biggest advantage beside the cooking quality is you don't have to preheat your oven.

Buy a pizza you are supposed to put in a cold oven.
Usually they also have extra crispy crusts.
No preheating either.
 

markgm

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This gadget gets the most use in my kitchen next to the fridge. In fact, I used it last night on a thin crust pizza from Costco...comes out perfect!
 

Canun

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Pizzaz will cook a regular frozen pizza in 12 minutes whereas the oven takes 18. It is evenly cooked, easy to clean, and doesn't have the undercooked or soggy middle problems. For rising crust pizzas, it takes about 24 minutes vs 30 minutes, plus a nice golden brown with no burning.

If you already have a toaster oven that can cook em, you don't need it. If you only have an oven, it saves power and time, and IMO tastes better.
 
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Originally posted by: Canun
Pizzaz will cook a regular frozen pizza in 12 minutes whereas the oven takes 18. It is evenly cooked, easy to clean, and doesn't have the undercooked or soggy middle problems. For rising crust pizzas, it takes about 24 minutes vs 30 minutes, plus a nice golden brown with no burning.

If you already have a toaster oven that can cook em, you don't need it. If you only have an oven, it saves power and time, and IMO tastes better.


:thumbsup:
 

loup garou

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Originally posted by: dullard
Originally posted by: waggy
well then the pizza thing is free then after the 1st use eh? so that makes your argument useless.
Not before you buy it. Probably 99% of people in the US have ranges already and 1% have the Pizza Pizzazz. Thus, it is clear that in MOST CASES to use the Pizzazz it'll cost a lot of money (to buy it) when you already have something that does the same job.

Can you please tell me what is hard to understand about that? Then I'll edit my posts to make it more clear.

Should we buy a new car each time we want to drive to a new destination? Or should we realize that we probably already have a car and can use that? It costs money to buy things we don't have. What is "useless" about the desire to use perfectly good items we have instead of buying new items?
Instead of rambling on and making worthless analogies, you could just say "oops, it was a stupid post."

Free, saves you 15-20 minutes, and saves the rest of us headaches.
 
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Originally posted by: loup garou
Originally posted by: dullard
Originally posted by: waggy
well then the pizza thing is free then after the 1st use eh? so that makes your argument useless.
Not before you buy it. Probably 99% of people in the US have ranges already and 1% have the Pizza Pizzazz. Thus, it is clear that in MOST CASES to use the Pizzazz it'll cost a lot of money (to buy it) when you already have something that does the same job.

Can you please tell me what is hard to understand about that? Then I'll edit my posts to make it more clear.

Should we buy a new car each time we want to drive to a new destination? Or should we realize that we probably already have a car and can use that? It costs money to buy things we don't have. What is "useless" about the desire to use perfectly good items we have instead of buying new items?
Instead of rambling on and making worthless analogies, you could just say "oops, it was a stupid post."

Free, saves you 15-20 minutes, and saves the rest of us headaches.


:thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:
 

MrChad

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Originally posted by: loup garou
Instead of rambling on and making worthless analogies, you could just say "oops, it was a stupid post."

Free, saves you 15-20 minutes, and saves the rest of us headaches.
dullard's post wasn't stupid. Ranges/stoves are essentially "free" because they're a part of almost every modern kitchen. It's a sunk cost and really doesn't factor into this discussion.

The point he was trying to get across is that "one trick ponies" in the kitchen are almost always bad ideas. With a limited amount of space (and money), you should learn to use multi-function devices in the kitchen to suit your needs rather than buy a bunch of gadgets that only serve a single purpose.
 

dullard

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Originally posted by: MrChad
"one trick ponies" in the kitchen are almost always bad ideas. With a limited amount of space (and money), you should learn to use multi-function devices in the kitchen to suit your needs rather than buy a bunch of gadgets that only serve a single purpose.
Thank you MrChad. This thread isn't worth arguing over, I'm editing the posts above.

If anyone watches "Good Eats" with Alton Brown, he has the same philosophy. Use what you have well, and improvise on the rest. One trick ponies just usually gather dust and drain your bank account. That is my feeling on the Pizza Pizzazz.
 

sygyzy

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Originally posted by: dullard
Using the oven you probably already have for pizza cooking: free and done in 15-20 minutes.
Using the stovetop you probably already have for pizza cooking: free and done in 25 minutes.
Buying a toaster oven for pizza cooking: $30 and done in 15 minutes.
Buying a Pizza Pizzazz: $40 and lots of storage/countertop space wasted.

MrChad said it better than I could (his post is below):
Originally posted by: MrChad
"one trick ponies" in the kitchen are almost always bad ideas. With a limited amount of space (and money), you should learn to use multi-function devices in the kitchen to suit your needs rather than buy a bunch of gadgets that only serve a single purpose.

Mr. Chad sounds like he likes to take credit from others (Alton Brown).
 

MrChad

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Aug 22, 2001
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Originally posted by: sygyzy
Originally posted by: dullard
Using the oven you probably already have for pizza cooking: free and done in 15-20 minutes.
Using the stovetop you probably already have for pizza cooking: free and done in 25 minutes.
Buying a toaster oven for pizza cooking: $30 and done in 15 minutes.
Buying a Pizza Pizzazz: $40 and lots of storage/countertop space wasted.

MrChad said it better than I could (his post is below):
Originally posted by: MrChad
"one trick ponies" in the kitchen are almost always bad ideas. With a limited amount of space (and money), you should learn to use multi-function devices in the kitchen to suit your needs rather than buy a bunch of gadgets that only serve a single purpose.

Mr. Chad sounds like he likes to take credit from others (Alton Brown).

Yes, I have heard that opinion/philosophy expressed on Good Eats, and it's one I agree with. I never claimed that I conjured up the idea on my own.
 

Ika

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Originally posted by: Ramma2
Originally posted by: dullard
Originally posted by: waggy
well then the pizza thing is free then after the 1st use eh? so that makes your argument useless.
Not before you buy it. Probably 99% of people in the US have ranges already and 1% have the Pizza Pizzazz. Thus, it is clear that in MOST CASES to use the Pizzazz it'll cost a lot of money (to buy it) when you already have something that does the same job.

Can you please tell me what is hard to understand about that? Then I'll edit my posts to make it more clear.

Should we buy a new car each time we want to drive to a new destination? Or should we realize that we probably already have a car and can use that? It costs money to buy things we don't have. What is "useless" about the desire to use perfectly good items we have instead of buying new items?


Why buy an Mp3 player when you have a home audio device?

Because you can carry it around.

Worst analogy ever.

A more applicable one would be: why buy a DVD player when you already have an HTPC? And the answer is - you don't need to.