Odds of the Dems flipping the Senate?

[allisolm]

But thanks to your democrat overloards killing unborn children is acceptable...

The 1973 Supreme Court that made the Roe vs Wade decision was composed mainly of judges appointed by Republicans (6 vs 3). So, actually, it was our Republican overlords who deemed abortion to be acceptable and I say thanks to them.

 

[MongGrel]

The 1973 Supreme Court that made the Roe vs Wade decision was composed mainly of judges appointed by Republicans (6 vs 3). So, actually, it was our Republican overlords who deemed abortion to be acceptable and I say thanks to them.

Good point.

But a lot of the current GOP would be more than happy to NERF that badly.

It is not the same party it was 40 years ago.

 

[hal2kilo]

The upside of Trump's demagoguery is that it could easily sour the Republicans' chances in Congress. Did you hitch your wagon to Trump because party politics overruled ethics and good sense? You may pay the price in November. I will be happy beyond words if Cruz is out and the US moves beyond obstructionist politics.

And for the record: family values means supporting every family, not just straight Christian families. It means not forcing a woman to have a child she can't afford, or to live with the physical consequences of a rapist's attack for the rest of her life. It means caring for the least fortunate among us and learning to grant all peaceful, honest people the same rights and opportunities that you have.

I have my hopes, but Hillary Hate is a powerful thing.

 

[Commodus]

I have my hopes, but Hillary Hate is a powerful thing.

True. I just suspect that Trump is even more of his own worst enemy than he was just a few months ago, and that even some longstanding Trump-inclined voters are starting to realize the hypocrisy of claiming to believe in family values while voting for someone who's a giant ball of infidelity, sexism and hate.

 

[MongGrel]

I have my hopes, but Hillary Hate is a powerful thing.

Bullshit hypocrisy and "you're going to lose your second amendment rights" has been Trumps battle cry from the git go.

He can not build a wall, he would not bring any jobs back, he is a giant mountain of bullshit that treats the whole country like he is selling another condo that will not be built.

It is what he has done all his life, he is a con man of epic proportions, and a lot of people are still buying into it as he talks down to them.

The fact a lot of people can not see it for what it is, is pretty scary in my mind.

He's basically a fat, ugly, entitled, abusive, orange real estate salesman running for POTUS.

"Just sign on the line, and don't worry those interest rates will not go up in the future."

Is a little joke, my father told me when growing up never to buy a house with an adjustable mortgage rate.

The fact he has this much backing so far is beyond me.

 

[WHAMPOM]

It was bill clinton, a democrat who signed gatt, nafta and helped china get into the world trade organization.

Democrat controlled unions are in support of free trade. Which is like shooting yourself in the foot.

Not sorry to burst your balloon, but the Detroit manufacturing flight started during the Reagan Presidency.

 

[Victorian Gray]

It was bill clinton, a democrat who signed gatt, nafta and helped china get into the world trade organization.

Democrat controlled unions are in support of free trade. Which is like shooting yourself in the foot.

Citation needed for bold.

 

[MrSquished]

Win the Senate? Shit I'm still worried that the dems may not win the White House. Hillary's lead in crucial swing states is narrow. The enthusiasm gap between Hillary supporters and Trump is huge. His lunatic base is fervent. He really could shoot someone on fifth avenue and they would only grow more enthusiastic. They will come out and vote en force. Only question is if Hillary's non-deplorables will all show up to vote.

 

[Jhhnn]

Win the Senate? Shit I'm still worried that the dems may not win the White House. Hillary's lead in crucial swing states is narrow. The enthusiasm gap between Hillary supporters and Trump is huge. His lunatic base is fervent. He really could shoot someone on fifth avenue and they would only grow more enthusiastic. They will come out and vote en force. Only question is if Hillary's non-deplorables will all show up to vote.

Don't mistake this great venting of Teahadi know nothing angst for a serious political campaign or a majority of voters. And don't mistake the quiet determination of Libs for complacency, either.

I have little doubt that America will reject the vileness that is Trump. That, or I've badly over estimated the basic decency of my countrymen.

 

[Indus]

To be honest I'm nervous too..

we were stupid enough to vote for bush not once but twice.

 

[zinfamous]

Because the state would have to match a percentage of the federal governments money.

Where is the states percentage supposed to come from?

none of what you are saying squares, in any way, with what you actually want and apparently need.

...you do realize that your first post in this thread begged for this very federal money to give you the healthcare that you want [some government] to give you, and yet you agree with your state that taking that federal money to give you that healthcare is bad.

....Texashiker: you are a fucking idiot.

 

[zinfamous]

And for the record: family values means supporting every family, not just straight Christian families. It means not forcing a woman to have a child she can't afford, or to live with the physical consequences of a rapist's attack for the rest of her life. It means caring for the least fortunate among us and learning to grant all peaceful, honest people the same rights and opportunities that you have.

It also means not bloviating about "family values!" while you run off to Argentina to diddle your mistress (while, as governor, claiming to your constituents and your family that you are "hiking the AT"). It means not invoking fire and brimstone against evil gays while diddling cabana boys in airport bathrooms.

Oh, it also means not divorcing your first trophy wife for your mistress, then divorcing her for a 3rd trophy wife import, all the while publicly professing your desire to fuck your own daughter, grab women by the pussy, leer at naked 15 year old girls and tell them "It's OK, I'm the boss!" and claim that you can assault any woman you want because you are "a celebrity."

None of those qualities reflect the habits of any human's understanding of "family values," yet an idiot like TH would vote for them without hesitation, without irony, and do so repeatedly.

 

[sontakke]

That, or I've badly over estimated the basic decency of my countrymen.

You absolutely have. The only question is their percentages as compared to the *actual* voting public. Yesterday's Bill Mahr program raised an interesting observation. There were couple of 49+ state elections in the past. Why is this one NOT like that?

 

[fskimospy]

You absolutely have. The only question is their percentages as compared to the *actual* voting public. Yesterday's Bill Mahr program raised an interesting observation. There were couple of 49+ state elections in the past. Why is this one NOT like that?

Maher is vastly underestimating how partisanship has changed over the last 20 years. Split ticket voting and crossover voting used to be very common, now it's almost unheard of. If you don't have anyone crossing over, you basically guarantee results for about 70% of states one way or the other, regardless of how bad a candidate is.

We will never have another 49 state election unless that changes back.

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

Citation needed for bold.

hahahahahahaha.... right, toothless is going to back up some bullshit accusation with facts.

 

[sontakke]

We will never have another 49 state election unless that changes back.

I do not believe you. If the situation were reversed aka a decent republican candidate vs insane democratic candidate you would be looking at 50 state landslide.

 

[Jhhnn]

I do not believe you. If the situation were reversed aka a decent republican candidate vs insane democratic candidate you would be looking at 50 state landslide.

A decent Repub candidate? Like who- Colbert's mythical Rick Parry?

The base won't support a decent candidate & they can't field one other than in fantasy land. The internal winnowing process of the Repub party precludes it. The whole thing is like a pack of suburban poodles hunting raccoons. Those dogs can't hunt & everybody knows it.

 

[Sonikku]

It says something when the Dems haven't a prayer of taking the house and only a slim chance of taking the Senate even when Trump is the nominee and the party is imploding all around.

 

[sontakke]

That is precisely because when it comes to election day, democratic base prefers to stay home not unlike our fskimo. They consider themselves to be above the fray.

 

[ronbo613]

No matter who gets elected where, the United States is a 51-49 country from here on in. Democrats, Republicans; it doesn't matter. In any situation almost as many people are going to be unsatisfied as are satisfied. The US government will be mired in gridlock for the rest of the country's history. America is going down the shitter, but as long as the lights are on and cable TV is working, the only action will be people spewing on the internet.

 

[Jhhnn]

It says something when the Dems haven't a prayer of taking the house and only a slim chance of taking the Senate even when Trump is the nominee and the party is imploding all around.

The composition of the HOR is because of the greatest gerrymanders in history in the wake of the 2010 census & elections. That's true of many State legislatures as well. It was the first redistricting of the modern computer age & Repubs exploited it as much as they could. Dems received more votes in 2014 yet remain a minority.

There is a structural gerrymander in the Senate that favors low population more conservative States, also ruthlessly exploited. There was a time when Senators from over represented States dealt constructively with their advantage, respected the fact that they do not represent a majority, something Repubs discarded over 20 years ago.

 

[Jhhnn]

That is precisely because when it comes to election day, democratic base prefers to stay home not unlike our fskimo. They consider themselves to be above the fray.

That's only true of midterms. Is this a midterm? No? There's your answer.

 

[fskimospy]

It says something when the Dems haven't a prayer of taking the house and only a slim chance of taking the Senate even when Trump is the nominee and the party is imploding all around.

Well I mean they have to win the house vote by 6 or 7 points just to break EVEN in house members. It's a tremendous uphill fight there.

 

[WHAMPOM]

In my local news people are redoing their write in votes. Four out of fifty-nine, but it may be a start.
Must appear in person, request their ballot, rip it up and make out a new one.

 

[Victorian Gray]

hahahahahahaha.... right, toothless is going to back up some bullshit accusation with facts.

Of course he won't. That's not his game.