Odds of the Dems flipping the Senate?

[JEDI]

and making Bernie the chairman of the Budget committee?
Repubs scared of #ProgressiveMovement

 

[Texashiker]

Repubs scared of #ProgressiveMovement

Progressive, as in what democrats have done to cities like Detroit?

As a far right wing Republican I am not worried about progress, we need progress.

Liberals and democrats confuse corrupting morals and values with "progress". What we need are strong family values, no abortions, jobs for everyone, jobs where people can afford to have a family and buy a home, a strong justice department where violent criminals are sent away for life,,,.

But thanks to your democrat overloards killing unborn children is acceptable and sending jobs overseas due to free trade is seen as progress.

 

[MongGrel]

Odds of flipping the Senate are probably pretty low, Rubio is still doing well in Florida it looks, even though I predict Hillary will catch the state.

I still wish Alex Sink had become Governor when she was running against Rick Scott down here, Scott barely beat her at the time.

She was always a solid no bull shit politician, was a very good CFO here for awhile.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alex_Sink

Scott is the current GOP making money off scamming health care guy in office down here.

 

[fskimospy]

Progressive, as in what democrats have done to cities like Detroit?

As a far right wing Republican I am not worry about progress, we need progress.

Liberals and democrats confuse corrupting morals and values with "progress". What we need are strong family values, no abortions, jobs for everyone, jobs where people can afford to have a family and buy a home, a strong justice department where violent criminals are sent away for life,,,.

But thanks to your democrat overloards killing unborn children is acceptable and sending jobs overseas due to free trade is seen as progress.

Remember when you were whining about not being able to find affordable health care but didn't seem to realize it was because the conservative republicans you keep voting for specifically worked to make sure you couldn't get it?

Smart move there. Keep voting for them, I'm sure someday they will stop screwing you.

 

[fskimospy]

Odds of flipping the Senate are probably pretty low, Rubio is still doing well in Florida it looks, even though I predict Hillary will catch the state.

538 gives about a 60% chance right now.

 

[Texashiker]

Remember when you were whining about not being able to find affordable health care but didn't seem to realize it was because the conservative republicans you keep voting for specifically worked to make sure you couldn't get it?

Please stop with the lies.

Health providers are looking at double digit increases. Even democrat governors are speaking out.

http://minnesota.cbslocal.com/2016/10/12/gov-dayton-affordable-care-act/

The subsidies that provide the low cost are not sustainable.

 

[fskimospy]

Please stop with the lies.

Health providers are looking at double digit increases. Even democrat governors are speaking out.

http://minnesota.cbslocal.com/2016/10/12/gov-dayton-affordable-care-act/

The subsidies that provide the low cost are not sustainable.

Please stop with the lies. You asked about getting free or low cost health insurance, insurance that would be available to you if conservative republicans in your state had not denied Medicaid expansion.

The people you keep voting for specifically worked to make your life worse. You reap what you sow.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

Please stop with the lies.

Health providers are looking at double digit increases. Even democrat governors are speaking out.

http://minnesota.cbslocal.com/2016/10/12/gov-dayton-affordable-care-act/

The subsidies that provide the low cost are not sustainable.

TH his point was correct, your Elected folks in TX said they don't want the Medicaid expansion money. They prefer to pay into the fund but not distribute it. This is plainly a political ploy because they wanted to keep the cost of healthcare higher. There is no other explanation.

 

[Texashiker]

TH his point was correct, your Elected folks in TX said they don't want the Medicaid expansion money..

Because the state would have to match a percentage of the federal governments money.

Where is the states percentage supposed to come from?

 

[MongGrel]

538 gives about a 60% chance right now.

I won't get my hopes up, but it would be nice to see some things be resolved these days instead of the constant backwards gridlock.

 

[MongGrel]

Because the state would have to match a percentage of the federal governments money.

Where is the states percentage supposed to come from?

You really should change your signature, I do not think you have said anything rational in months.

That was just a random one off someone threw out there you latched onto it looks like.

But you will cling to it I imagine.

 

[Jhhnn]

Odds of flipping the Senate are probably pretty low, Rubio is still doing well in Florida it looks, even though I predict Hillary will catch the state.

I still wish Alex Sink had become Governor when she was running against Rick Scott down here, Scott barely beat her at the time.

She was always a solid no bull shit politician, was a very good CFO here for awhile.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alex_Sink

Scott is the current GOP making money off scamming health care guy in office down here.

Florida Repubs are running scared, rightfully so. Dems are pounding them with new voter registrations. Dunno how that will translate into votes but it's a bad sign for Repubs.

Scott & Co have been too greedy, too sleazy & too obvious. I suspect that a lot of Floridians are sick of their shit.

 

[Texashiker]

You really should change your signature, I do not think you have said anything rational in months.

That was just a random one off someone threw out there you latched onto it looks like.

But you will cling to it I imagine.

Where is the states percentage supposed to come from?

 

[HomerJS]

Progressive, as in what democrats have done to cities like Detroit?

As a far right wing Republican I am not worried about progress, we need progress.

Liberals and democrats confuse corrupting morals and values with "progress". What we need are strong family values, no abortions, jobs for everyone, jobs where people can afford to have a family and buy a home, a strong justice department where violent criminals are sent away for life,,,.

But thanks to your democrat overloards killing unborn children is acceptable and sending jobs overseas due to free trade is seen as progress.

Detroit's demise is directly related to the collapse of the auto industry and its subsequent moving away. As for Republican rule Righties only needed one term of Sam Brownback to destroy an entire state.

As far as family values the Republican base disagrees.

 

[Texashiker]

Detroit's demise is directly related to the collapse of the auto industry and its subsequent moving away. As for Republican rule Righties only needed one term of Sam Brownback to destroy an entire state.

As far as family values the Republican base disagrees.

It was bill clinton, a democrat who signed gatt, nafta and helped china get into the world trade organization.

Democrat controlled unions are in support of free trade. Which is like shooting yourself in the foot.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

Because the state would have to match a percentage of the federal governments money.

Where is the states percentage supposed to come from?

To my admittedly amateur understanding the first 5 or 10 years require no match and even when it does paying $10 for a $20 contribution is a pretty good deal, even Trump would agree if it wasn't healthcare. I can understand not supporting ACA/Obama care because its flawed or invasive but to turn away money that you have to pay into is silly. To blame a big increase and refuse funding is just political pandering.

Back on topic because I hate people who divert the discussion and I apologize for being one. I'd say its likely there will be a small Dem majority in the Senate and the House gap will shrink.
Despite voting Dem for President 100% of the time and mostly for other positions I don't like the idea of one party controlling everything it always ends in bad results.

 

[MongGrel]

It was bill clinton, a democrat who signed gatt, nafta and helped china get into the world trade organization.

Democrat controlled unions are in support of free trade. Which is like shooting yourself in the foot.

A lot of the auto industry was shipped out of the midwest way before NAFTA ever happened.

It started in the mid 80's and I saw it happening then, when Reagan was in office.

Cadillac was shipping some of the assembly line machinery to Mexico as early as 1985, I was building some of it at the time.

The Toolmaker apprenticeship I was in at the time was GM funded for the most part, even though I did not work for GM.

But there was a lot of talk back and forth, and we did side work for GM.

When we started receiving tooling back from Mexico for repair at the time they had slapped Hispanic operating labels on that they were not capable of repairing themselves, a lot of eyebrows went way up.

The whole manufacturing base in that area is pretty much defunct now, huge factories were just flattened.

And that was pre NAFTA.

 

[IronWing]

Progressive, as in what democrats have done to cities like Detroit?

As a far right wing Republican I am not worried about progress, we need progress.

Liberals and democrats confuse corrupting morals and values with "progress". What we need are strong family values, no abortions, jobs for everyone, jobs where people can afford to have a family and buy a home, a strong justice department where violent criminals are sent away for life,,,.

But thanks to your democrat overloards killing unborn children is acceptable and sending jobs overseas due to free trade is seen as progress.

You had a job. What did you do with it?

 

[IronWing]

A lot of the auto industry was shipped out of the midwest way before NAFTA ever happened.

It started in the mid 80's and I saw it happening then, when Reagan was in office.

That's because southern state politicians peed down their own legs every time an auto exec came to town. The southern pols then bribed the auto companies to move production south. They passed right-to-work anti-worker, anti-family laws to grease the skids even more. Basically the southern states offered socialism for the corporate masters and it worked.

 

[gorobei]

538 gives about a 60% chance right now.

everyone thinks the dems need to get an outright majority, they just need to get to 50:50 and let VP Kaine be the tie breaker.

 

[MongGrel]

That's because southern state politicians peed down their own legs every time an auto exec came to town. The southern pols then bribed the auto companies to move production south. They passed right-to-work anti-worker, anti-family laws to grease the skids even more. Basically the southern states offered socialism for the corporate masters and it worked.

It was in Indiana at the time when I was going through my GM affiliated Journeyman Apprenticeship.

The auto industry in the mid west had it's heart ripped out a long time ago.

It was scary just driving around looking at all the places that do not exist these days in that area that were major employers in the 80's

I moved to Florida and got into Aerospace work in R&D, but that has even dried up and I'm sick of anything these days.

I at least felt I was doing something worthwhile for 20 years or so at a couple of places, but corporations are fickle these days.

I used to be basically the Jarvis for several MIT engineers.

They thought of it, I would create it.

Then iterate, but upper management in another state about 500 miles away thought farming it out would be more efficient over the protests of the in house engineers.

The post hole diggers had walked through the shop and evaluated it and thought we were not worth keeping around according to their stats.

Iteration on a daily basis got tossed into the toilet over objections from many MIT Senior Engineers, from the opinions of PHD Staticians who half the time had to be told what even piece of machinery they were looking at, let alone what it was capable of producing.

Was like watching an over educated 5th grader filling in a spreadsheet that had no concept of how anything actually operates.

 

[skyking]

538 gives about a 60% chance right now.

I did not know it was that favorable.

 

[soundforbjt]

Saw a poll last night that showed voters want the Dems to control Congress, numbers were dems 49% repubs 42%

 

[Indus]

Progressive, as in what democrats have done to cities like Detroit?

As a far right wing Republican I am not worried about progress, we need progress.

Liberals and democrats confuse corrupting morals and values with "progress". What we need are strong family values, no abortions, jobs for everyone, jobs where people can afford to have a family and buy a home, a strong justice department where violent criminals are sent away for life,,,.

But thanks to your democrat overloards killing unborn children is acceptable and sending jobs overseas due to free trade is seen as progress.

I dunno what your deplorable redneck hick logic says but they sure didn't poison everyone with lead tainted water.

They sure didn't say if you get sick, fuck off and die. No obamacare for you.

They sure didn't say if you're starving, fuck off and die. No food stamps for you.

They sure didn't say if you paid into social security/ pension fund your whole life, you're not entitled to it, wall street is. Chris Christie and his like are busy running cops pensions into the ground. Blue lives still matter right? Oh wait, no they don't after they retire.

They sure didn't say when someone rapes a woman and impregnates her, she would have to put up with the baby and thus deal with cruel and unusual punishment.

But not like this makes a difference to you, you're too far gone on your kool-aid.. logical thinking is not an option.. just trumpeting hate and conspiracy theories is.

 

[Commodus]

The upside of Trump's demagoguery is that it could easily sour the Republicans' chances in Congress. Did you hitch your wagon to Trump because party politics overruled ethics and good sense? You may pay the price in November. I will be happy beyond words if Cruz is out and the US moves beyond obstructionist politics.

And for the record: family values means supporting every family, not just straight Christian families. It means not forcing a woman to have a child she can't afford, or to live with the physical consequences of a rapist's attack for the rest of her life. It means caring for the least fortunate among us and learning to grant all peaceful, honest people the same rights and opportunities that you have.