Odds of Biden stepping down, being replaced. Choose.

[MrSquished]

I'm ordering a kamala 24 t-shirt, let's goo. I didn't even buy an Obama t-shirt.

 

[MrSquished]

Never in my life have I seen the party basically as one move this rapidly.

Turns out not only does inspiration matter, but especially so when what you were offering was the antithesis of that, then it's just an utter explosion of passion and force uniting when the people get inspiration.

 

[Fenixgoon]

Already saw a Kamala ad on YouTube 😎

 

[[DHT]Osiris]

Never in my life have I seen the party basically as one move this rapidly.

Like I said, warp core on the BS:G. Got somewhere to be and not fuckin' about getting there.

 

[zinfamous]

The 22nd amendment specifically says a president cannot be "elected" to a third term. So it is possible to construe that to mean that Obama would be eligible to take over as president from VP, because he was not "elected" to the office.

"or anyone who is ineligible to be president"

Obama is constitutionally ineligible to be president.

 

[IronWing]

"or anyone who is ineligible to be president"

Obama is constitutionally ineligible to be president.

I don't want him back anyway; Obama is too conservative. Biden has been much better for getting better policies enacted.

 

[Zorba]

Never in my life have I seen the party basically as one move this rapidly.

Democrats might actually avoid shooting themselves in the dick for once.

 

[biostud]

If Biden stepped down before the January, could Harris be elected twice?

 

[Muse]

If Biden stepped down before the January, could Harris be elected twice?

Johnson took over when JFK was assassinated and won the following election, 1964. He refused the nomination for the 1968 POTUS election. So, yes.

 

[BoomerD]

If Biden stepped down before the January, could Harris be elected twice?

Doesn't work quite that way. Should something happen to Biden...dies, steps down, Republicans vote him incompetent to hold office (25th amendment) Kamala Harris, as Vice President steps into the presidency until the end of the term in January. IF she's elected in November, then she'll again be sworn into office on Jan. 21st...and can then (barring any republican shenanigans) run for re-election again in 2028.

 

[Moonbeam]

I keep flashing back to watching Rachel Maddow say that the only way one can fight for democracy is to do it democratically. I guess that’s because the liberal prison will allow nothing else. Keep your fingers crossed. We can hope that Stockholm Syndrome isn’t controlling for the electoral college.

You are mixed up. My only contribution to the discussion concerning die versus dye was the question of the nature of the metaphor. It could refer to a decision determined by the role of a die, one of a pair of dice. I said I'd always thought it referred to a mold in an industrial process that turned out specific identical objects. So, the die being cast would suggest that the end result is determined already. Nothing to do with spelling much less anyone (my parents) putting me down for anything. They were not like that. I was not taught to hate myself. That's once again your propensity for projection dominating your discourse.

I accept your explanation regarding die dye which in that case would have been the die has been stamped. As to your nor hating yourself, it takes either intense curiosity about what motivates your feelings, or an intense unhappiness with your life, to see it. It’s the last thing we want to know. Rather than challenge what I say, why not notice what the world would be like if what I say were true. What difference would it make if you know intellectually that you hate yourself but could not get tothe feelings or if you can’t get to them because they are not there. The only risk would be that you would know the enemy isn’t out there but within. Wouldn’t it be nice to let go of of blame. Anger is a chemical addiction.

Also, the stuff you are complaining about here was in the reply to the second person I quoted, not yours.

 

[ondma]

“Identity politics” code for I want to be able to shit on people who I don’t like for totally illogical reasons (race, sexual orientation, gender identity) and someone is trying to say I should live by the golden rule instead so it makes me angry.

Get angry if you like, that is certainly your privilege.

If Biden stepped down before the January, could Harris be elected twice?

Yes. One can be elected twice more if the first term is less than two years.

 

[ondma]

Fundamental civil rights and access to care are "identity politics" now? That's crazy cricket levels of stupid right there. Abortion and Healthcare are the NUMBER ONE topic they should be hitting right now.

Here is a link to the most important issue for voters according to a recent survey: https://www.statista.com/statistics/1362236/most-important-voter-issues-us/
Two out of four of the top issues are related to the economy (Inflation and jobs/economy). Inflation/high prices was by far the #1 concern. What James Carville said back in the Clinton days is still true: "it is the economy, stupid". Healthcare in general is also high on the list, but abortion specifically is far down the list.

Edit: looks like the link is blocked. The data is: Inflation/economy 20%, Healthcare 14%, Immigration 12%, Jobs/economy 11%, environment 8%. national security 6%, Taxes/govt spending and abortion are tied at 5%. civil rights is 12th at 3% and civil liberties 13th at 2%.
The dats was published by Statista Research Department July 5, 2024 from a survey conducted in February.

 

[Leeea]

it is hopefully over:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/elections/2024/07/22/kamala-harris-appearance-biden-drop-out/

Harris secured pledges of support from a majority of Democratic National Convention delegates, a forceful show of unity behind her presidential campaign that signals she is likely to officially become the party’s nominee next month.

 

[trenchfoot]

Soooooo, what's next for Joe? Sure he's still POTUS, and a very very lame duck one at that. With his ego in shatters, his dream of beating Trump one more time turned into a gut wrenching embarrassment, it seems this is his supreme moment of resurrecting himself into acquiring a new purpose by dusting himself off and making his ~ 6 months of tenure really mean something, knowing it's the end of the line. Sad he had to go down like this yet the legacy he's leaving behind is an honorable one, totally unlike his former opponent.

So turning to Kamala. Will she accept Biden's and the party's advice while pursuing her own legacy building agenda pre-election, or will she sail off into a more self-interested course and take on the attitude that she knows what's best for her path to victory over Trump and become a rogue warrior of sorts?

I've seen this happen in our local political scene where once nominated/elected, the candidate/office holder will turn their back on the party's power brokers, get overconfident and cocky and then get unceremoniously booted out after a single term by being branded persona non grata from the party's elder statesmen.

 

[Moonbeam]

Democrats might actually avoid shooting themselves in the dick for once.

Looks like there might be something to the notion of rejuvenation of the life cycle via human sacrifice. I take it Biden didn't drop out because he is senile, don't know if he's far gone or not, but because he realized that thanks to all the calls for his head on a block, he just could not win.

I thought it might be interesting if Harris picked Liz Cheney as her running mate. She might do better than taking our part of an ear.

 

[brycejones]

M

Get angry if you like, that is certainly your privilege.

Whoosh, jump faster next time

 

[zinfamous]

Soooooo, what's next for Joe? Sure he's still POTUS, and a very very lame duck one at that. With his ego in shatters, his dream of beating Trump one more time turned into a gut wrenching embarrassment, it seems this is his supreme moment of resurrecting himself into acquiring a new purpose by dusting himself off and making his ~ 6 months of tenure really mean something, knowing it's the end of the line. Sad he had to go down like this yet the legacy he's leaving behind is an honorable one, totally unlike his former opponent.

So turning to Kamala. Will she accept Biden's and the party's advice while pursuing her own legacy building agenda pre-election, or will she sail off into a more self-interested course and take on the attitude that she knows what's best for her path to victory over Trump and become a rogue warrior of sorts?

I've seen this happen in our local political scene where once nominated/elected, the candidate/office holder will turn their back on the party's power brokers, get overconfident and cocky and then get unceremoniously booted out after a single term by being branded persona non grata from the party's elder statesmen.

official act re: SCOTUS?

 

[dlerious]

Republican meltdown continues

 

[cytg111]

Soooooo, what's next for Joe? Sure he's still POTUS, and a very very lame duck one at that. With his ego in shatters, his dream of beating Trump one more time turned into a gut wrenching embarrassment, it seems this is his supreme moment of resurrecting himself into acquiring a new purpose by dusting himself off and making his ~ 6 months of tenure really mean something, knowing it's the end of the line. Sad he had to go down like this yet the legacy he's leaving behind is an honorable one, totally unlike his former opponent.

So turning to Kamala. Will she accept Biden's and the party's advice while pursuing her own legacy building agenda pre-election, or will she sail off into a more self-interested course and take on the attitude that she knows what's best for her path to victory over Trump and become a rogue warrior of sorts?

I've seen this happen in our local political scene where once nominated/elected, the candidate/office holder will turn their back on the party's power brokers, get overconfident and cocky and then get unceremoniously booted out after a single term by being branded persona non grata from the party's elder statesmen.

Sure as hell hope they got only one target scoped out (too soon?) and not personal bullshittery ambition xyz.

 

[KMFJD]

Just amazing how energized the party became once Biden finally threw in the towel....

 

[KMFJD]

oh lol, a new replacement theory has dropped

https://twitter.com/x/status/1815580046448586846

 

[HomerJS]

"or anyone who is ineligible to be president"

Obama is constitutionally ineligible to be president.

A POTUS was not Constitutionally entitled to immunity until this court invented it.

Trump was not eligible to be on the ballot because of the Constitutional insurrection thing but we have this court.

 

[Pens1566]

Doesn't work quite that way. Should something happen to Biden...dies, steps down, Republicans vote him incompetent to hold office (25th amendment) Kamala Harris, as Vice President steps into the presidency until the end of the term in January. IF she's elected in November, then she'll again be sworn into office on Jan. 21st...and can then (barring any republican shenanigans) run for re-election again in 2028.

The 25th would have to be initiated by VP/cabinet as things currently stand. The only role congress currently has in the process is in voting on the replaced POTUS's submitted challenge/reinstatement petition.

 

[zinfamous]

A POTUS was not Constitutionally entitled to immunity until this court invented it.

Trump was not eligible to be on the ballot because of the Constitutional insurrection thing but we have this court.

Yeah, maybe Biden can Officially Act him directly into the presidency, or something?

Or, even better: remove Alito and Thomas for presenting threats against the United States (direct ties to Russian enemies, probably sources of massive intel leaks--I mean who cares? He doesn't need to give a reason and those 2 cvnts argued that the president is immune from even being questioned about their decisions), replace with Obama and Hillary Clinton.

Fuck yes!