Odds of Biden stepping down, being replaced. Choose.

[K1052]

If the Dems care to, they can orchestrate a graceful convention handoff with Biden introducing a replacement. Given the Dem insiders' love of blabbing to the media, no grace will be achieved.

I think it is still within Biden's ability to quash most of that if he decided to.

 

[gothuevos]

If the Dems care to, they can orchestrate a graceful convention handoff with Biden introducing a replacement.

"Think of the ratings!"

 

[Brainonska511]

I feel like everybody naming her would actually be counter productive.

I think having a unified name and clear path forward would give a stronger argument than "Biden old, I want a replacement".

 

[Indus]

Crap! Someone will eventually notice that the Gen Xers are the real bastards.

Anyone surprised? Grew up under Reagan watching Red Dawn..

 

[IronWing]

Anyone surprised? Grew up under Reagan watching Red Dawn..

Not at all. I'm a Gen Xer and grew up with some real assholes. That's why I opposed Kavanaugh's nomination to the court so strenuously. I went to school with lots of entitled little pricks just like him.

 

[gothuevos]

Then there's also this:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1813525976359288868

 

[MrSquished]

I have seen lots of mention as Harris as the de facto replacement by Dems. In fact, in various media news reports they report it as, the largest consensus candidate coming from Dem pols is Kamala Harris.

 

[dank69]

From mostly no worse to somewhat better. Biden's major problem is that there is no obvious way for him to turn perceptions around at this point. The debate may have done irreparable damage.

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I only see one category there that has a different outcome, and that outcome is Harris losing to Trump with 65+ group while Biden wins it.

 

[Indus]

Not at all. I'm a Gen Xer and grew up with some real assholes. That's why I opposed Kavanaugh's nomination to the court so strenuously. I went to school with lots of entitled little pricks just like him.

I look at myself as a Xennelial. Have more in common with Millenials than X'ers.

But seriously this whole business of replacing the guy who has the votes is gonna spread kaka everywhere. The Dems will have more cleaning to do than this guy here:

For those who think cleaning will be finished before election day.. lol. This will fuck us for the next 4 decades.. just remember 1968 convention and what followed. It's not a pretty picture.

 

[Zorba]

Clyburn has said if Biden steps its Harris, people should believe him.

Not that this will hold, but she should promise to participate in a full normal primary in 2028 if she wins.

 

[nakedfrog]

Not at all. I'm a Gen Xer and grew up with some real assholes. That's why I opposed Kavanaugh's nomination to the court so strenuously. I went to school with lots of entitled little pricks just like him.

A couple years ago I started seeing Gen Z kids talking about how Gen X is just as bad as the boomers

 

[MrSquished]

Then there's also this:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1813525976359288868

Biden has lost his marbles. It's up to the Dems to get some balls and make it very decisive.

 

[MrSquished]

A couple years ago I started seeing Gen Z kids talking about how Gen X is just as bad as the boomers

I'm GenX and all my GenX friends are dems, but that's because I just don't deal with GQP party members in my personal life - but I will say, out of a large part of my FB friends who are GenX, people I have known at some point, they are all woke losers too.

GenX is no way as bad as boomers though. That's a load of poppycock.

 

[K1052]

A couple years ago I started seeing Gen Z kids talking about how Gen X is just as bad as the boomers

Millenials to our Gen Z brethren:

 

[Zorba]

I think it is still within Biden's ability to quash most of that if he decided to.

He has tried and not done great at any of the attempts. It's not like he is an young athlete with a sprain, he is like a way past his prime athlete that has no real shot of coming back but the team won't cut.

 

[IronWing]

A couple years ago I started seeing Gen Z kids talking about how Gen X is just as bad as the boomers

Worse in some ways. White suburban kids learned everything they need to know about black people from watching Charles Bronson movies and everything they need to know about the world by watching the Iranian hostage crisis unfold.

 

[K1052]

He has tried and not done great at any of the attempts. It's not like he is an young athlete with a sprain, he is like a way past his prime athlete that has no real shot of coming back but the team won't cut.

No I'm saying he could smooth the path for Harris in exchange for dropping out. Do one last favor for the old man, would likely be persuasive.

 

[gothuevos]

No I'm saying he could smooth the path for Harris in exchange for dropping out. Do one last favor for the old man, would likely be persuasive.

Nothing we've seen or heard about indicates that he has any idea of stepping down.

Convention could be exciting.

 

[Muse]

Nothing we've seen or heard about indicates that he has any idea of stepping down.

Convention could be exciting.

You're wrong. Didn't he say in the Lester Holt interview 2 days ago that if he saw info to the effect he won't win come November he'd step aside before being nominated? Like a lot of things he says, it was pithy, but there. He did not say hell or high water.

 

[Leeea]

Then there's also this:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1813525976359288868

tough chickenpoop.

I have started openly pushing for an open convention. I doubt it will do much good. There is a closed vote in a few days, will see how that goes.


Biden needs to go to the convention floor and win this the old fashion way. Otherwise there will be serious issues in the party and his own Fing campaign.


All he needs to do is show up and be coherent.

 

[Roger Wilco]

Time for a checkup Joe.

https://www.politico.com/news/2024/07/17/biden-medical-interview-election-00169050

“
President Joe Biden would reevaluate his decision to stay in the presidential race if doctors told him he had a medical issue, he said in an interview with BET News.

“If I had some medical condition that emerged,” Biden said, when asked if there was anything that would make him reconsider. “If doctors came to me and said, ‘You got this problem, that problem.’”

Biden’s comments, made Tuesday, marked the first time Biden opened the door to a theoretical medical condition forcing him from the presidential race. In an interview with ABC News a week after the disastrous debate, he defiantly insisted that only the “Lord Almighty” could get him to drop out of the race. Last week, he laid out a different scenario, saying during a press conference that he would step aside only if aides showed him proof he couldn’t win in November.
“

 

[Pens1566]

I only see one category there that has a different outcome, and that outcome is Harris losing to Trump with 65+ group while Biden wins it.

"White, no college" as well. If we're talking swing states like PA/MI/WI. It's tough for her to make up ground in those demographics. If memory serves, those were two of the groups that he did better than Hillary (at least in PA) that made some of the difference between '16 and '20.

 

[manly]

That's fine. It just seems that a lot of replacement calls are conspicuously absent of that condition.

Because we're in uncharted waters, so there is no playbook for replacement. Biden has also decided to fight it strenuously, which is why it's still at best a 50/50 that he steps aside.

Right after the debate, Newsom's name was bandied around quite a bit. But beginning in early July, it's been seen as either Joe Biden or Kamala Harris at the top of the ticket. Whatever happens next, Harris has solid party support because she's astutely remained loyal to the Biden campaign. Like many others here, I'm nervous about her chances across the battlegrounds. But can people honestly say that Candidate Biden will do better (than he's been doing) over the next 3.5 months? Obviously there's risk either way.

Finally, if there was to be a "contested primary campaign" right before the DNC as some pundits suggested, we've just wasted 2.5 weeks of time, and counting. So the chances of several top candidates barnstorming and trying to build support before a contested convention seems far-fetched at this point.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

This is a statement of belief more than an objective fact. Recent surveys indicate she may do better with independents than Biden.

I am highly suspicious of this claim.

Let’s learn from previous mistakes. She is boring, she appears to have no policies to speak of, she has a rapid turnover with her staff because she is difficult to work for.

She is not the candidate a majority of people will support.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

Then there's also this:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1813525976359288868

This is the guy we need, come on Dark Brandon bring it on!