Odd Ebay Card: GTX 650 Ti 2GB DDR3

MiddleOfTheRoad

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I've never seen a card so oddly configured before. A fairly strong GTX 650 Ti, but paired with DDR3 - These cards sell for $50 to $60 on eBay. I'm just wondering what is the point? Wouldn't a GTX 650 DDR5 (non-Ti) be the better buy?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-2G-384B...478?pt=PCC_Video_TV_Cards&hash=item1e8f06965e

Is the GTX 650 DDR3 Card intended for brute force low resolution gaming? There are really no benchmarks for such an odd OEM card -- but I was thinking about buying one just to see what it can do. Was Nvidia just trying to find a way to sell off lousy yields of GTX 650 Ti chips?
 

SPBHM

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I think it's a fake card, probably using a GPU from 8-9 series, or GT 220 or something, with the bios edited, they sell the same cards also as GTX 670 and other things, I found a few on aliexpress, they even create fake boxes and all..
 

Denithor

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The only real difference between the GTX 640 and GTX 650 was the memory - DDR3 for the former and GDDR5 for the later. The GTX 640 completely miserably sucks for gaming, the GTX 650 was a lower mid-range card at launch.

So, yeah, not sure why the manufacturer would have ever paired up DDR3 with a GTX 650 Ti, but avoid that card like the plague...

EDIT: Of course, it's listed as an OEM card, so it could have easily been created to meet a Dell/HP/etc price point for a "gaming" computer. The OEM cards have often offered a really bizarre mix of properties because they are trying balance cost with performance.
 
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Insert_Nickname

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Its just a question of that in the OEM world of specsheets 2GB DDR3 looks better then 1GB GDDR5.

We all know better. Hopefully... :D

Edit; yeah, its properly a fake. A quick google/DDG search turned up no official looking 2GB DDR3 650TI's...
 
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SPBHM

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The only real difference between the GTX 640 and GTX 650 was the memory - DDR3 for the former and GDDR5 for the later. The GTX 640 completely miserably sucks for gaming, the GTX 650 was a lower mid-range card at launch.

So, yeah, not sure why the manufacturer would have ever paired up DDR3 with a GTX 650 Ti, but avoid that card like the plague...

EDIT: Of course, it's listed as an OEM card, so it could have easily been created to meet a Dell/HP/etc price point for a "gaming" computer. The OEM cards have often offered a really bizarre mix of properties because they are trying balance cost with performance.


look at the specs they list, there is 0 650 Ti in it, it's not just the DDR3, also look at the card and good luck finding a 650 Ti that looks exactly like that, it looks the same as other fake cards I've seen with all kinds of names (770, 670 and so on), probably someone in China is having fun with bios editing tools, some sellers might be victims, others not.
 

sm625

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Other red flags:

1. It says 384 bit in the description. This is obviously a bunch of bull.
2. There is a VGA connector? When was the last time you saw a VGA connector on a card? Do OEMs still force that on Kepler cards?

My bet is it is actually a GT630, which has 384 cuda cores. lol. This seller should have his rating utterly decimated.
 

Denithor

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Well, this seller has 688,393 feedback with 98.7% positive. I doubt a powerseller like that would hazard reputation (plus dealing with returns, etc) selling fudged cards.

But then again, could be, I suppose. Meh. Not something I would buy either way.
 

ViRGE

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That is as fake as all heck. As everyone else has noted, it's the same card being sold as the fake GTX 770 and other NVIDIA products. Most likely it is a 2GB GT 220 or GT 240.

Note that there never was an OEM version of the GTX 650 Ti, so the only configuration NVIDIA allows with that name requires GDDR5.
Other red flags:

1. It says 384 bit in the description. This is obviously a bunch of bull.
2. There is a VGA connector? When was the last time you saw a VGA connector on a card? Do OEMs still force that on Kepler cards?
The 384 bit memory bus is a giant red flag. On the other hand a VGA port on a GTX 650 Ti would not be all that out of place. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814127793


Well, this seller has 688,393 feedback with 98.7% positive. I doubt a powerseller like that would hazard reputation (plus dealing with returns, etc) selling fudged cards.

But then again, could be, I suppose. Meh. Not something I would buy either way.

The seller simply refunds anyone who figures out what's up. People won't leave you negative feedback if you give them their money back.
 
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Wall Street

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It is interesting to note that the EBay sellers of these fake cards show errors in the specs on purpose. If you know that a 650 ti doesn't have a 384-bit bus and doesn't look like the picture, then you won't buy the card. Unfortunately, the only people who are duped by this tend not to know the specs of the card or what they look like and it is much less likely they will know they were ripped off. The sellers use obviously wrong stats to reduce the amount of EBay arbitration and negative feedback they get.
 

schuck6566

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Anyone still interested in info on these bogus GTX650ti's,660,680's, they have hdmi on them,but don't have audio.They come with nvidia driver 340. and basicly refuse to run with ANY driver I've installed after 340.52.(Just happens to be the final release for the 8800 series I believe)The 8800's were 384 bit 650mhz same as these. DDR3,same as these. Here are some shots of gpu-z and nvidia's panel for info. note that gpu-z says it's dx11,but nvidia says 10.when bench marking,3dmark refused to run firestrike and skydiver test(both require dx11 capable video card)it DID run the dx10 test fairly well,but do we want to pay for an 8800 card when we can get a gt730 around the same price and have dx11 and actually score 20 points higher on pcmark7 it then the "gtx650Ti"?I'll stick with a card that has a name I know from now on,(MSI,EVGA,ZOTAC,PNY,GIGABYTE) Umm,I've bought a few cards I guess... LOL. Here's the shots.
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spat55

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FAKE

How do they get away with it? Shouldn't Ebay be aware of this and ban the seller?