OCZ Octane 512GB SSD review

[Old Hippie]

Hope you're going to put your money where your mouth is, and beta test an Octane yourself.

I have no doubt he will if he hasn't played with one already.

While I don't agree with alot of his pro OCZ/Sandforce rhetoric he has plenty of insight/background/knowledge on many other SSDs and I respect that.

However, he can't erase the bad experiences that many have had with OCZ/Sandforce no matter how much he talks.

Only time will heal the wounds for some and for others like me, I'll die before I buy another OCZ product. :biggrin:

 

[groberts101]

Oh I've read the review buddy, I know. Huh???.. Reviews teach you everything you need to know about this stuff? Makes more sense now and therein lyes the problem maybe?


What would you know? Quite a lot about various controllers strengths and weaknesses actually. Have tested more than 50 SSD's so far. Can't say I actually kept them all for more than 30 days though. lol

You have one of these? uhh?.. yep.

You've tested it? uhh?.. yep. See post #11 in this very thread.


Where do you see Anand slathering praise over this product, rather than his disdain for OCZ reliability issues? disdain?.. LOL. Obviously a perspective issue here and someone hangs too tightly to "our saviour's" coattail. It often takes far more than 1 reviewer and a handful of opinions on Newegg or a forum to see the reality sometimes. Vantage point is everything to be sure.

Here's a clue from AT for you- I've had more than a clue since these drives came out 2 years ago. Thanks for the light reading though. :hmm:


We'll see. Hope you're going to put your money where your mouth is, and beta test an Octane yourself.

Didn't need to spend a dime.. and yes I am. Flawless drive so far for myself and the "team" using them. Add no need for toolbox utilitie's and such?(BTW.. all others will eventually get there too).. and we have the basis for a great controller when the next gen Indilinx hits the shelves.

It pays to keep an open mind with such quickly changing tech like SSD's and mine's certainly wide open.

and for pete's sake.. don't be so sensitive. I was just teasing, is all.

I tend to defend against constant, and often misinformed, slander of OCZ because I like the general hardware lineup and overly agressive enthusiast type "on the edge" mentality that they offer me. It's been no secret that I'll take speed over stability most any day since I have so many alternate drives to boot from with the click of a button or two. BUT.. that doesn't mean I can't understand others need for "assured stability" or the beef that some may have with OCZ from past misdealings. I don't need or feel the urge to be any more candid than I already am around here though and certainly don't need add any more fuel to the fire than others are so quick to do already. Bashing something while you're trying to help someone just seems to undermine the whole idea of posting in the first place, right?

If you like a particular drive?.. that's great! Surely your right to tell people why you have the opinion that you do. But constantly slandering against another company while doing that, and especially when you don't have all the information needed to make more educated comments gets old rather quickly. Also helps to tell folks that you haven't actually owned a particular drive that your adamently recommending as well since that too is often misleading to others who may rely on your opinion,.. IMO.

Firsthand experience always trumps speculation is all I'm really getting at here and no offense was ever intended with the playful jabs. 😉

 

[gramboh]

IIRC.. at this years CES in Vegas, OCZ said that it would be released in June.

then figure the typical delay just in case it's in testing a bit longer than expected(I doubt that will be the case though with this controller as the existing drives firmware code is very strong).

So, with that in mind.. I would guess by about July. But.. I've been wrong about release dates many times before though. Who knows?.. maybe they will be on schedule or maybe even early for once? lol

I'm building an Ivy Bridge system in April when the CPU/MB is released. I'm starting to buy some components now when I see really good deals (have the heatsink and PSU alreadY). I know it's purely speculation of the timeline, but do you think the next Indilinx controller will offer enough of an upgrade over the current Octane (and compared to say Vertex 3) to wait? Since 256gb drive here, usage case is gaming, some encoding general desktop use, not intensive, so I care about boot times and reads mostly.

Right now considering pretty much all options depending on price/perf and reliability. I'm not fussed about SF2281 anymore as the bugs appear to have been found.

 

[Shmee]

Hard to say, but I would just wait for now seeing as how Ivy isnt out yet anyways.

 

[Coup27]

If Ivy is due out around April and Octane has only really hit the shelves in the last few weeks, I doubt very much you'll see the next incarnation of that controller for 6 months.

 

[groberts101]

I'm building an Ivy Bridge system in April when the CPU/MB is released. I'm starting to buy some components now when I see really good deals (have the heatsink and PSU alreadY). I know it's purely speculation of the timeline, but do you think the next Indilinx controller will offer enough of an upgrade over the current Octane (and compared to say Vertex 3) to wait? Since 256gb drive here, usage case is gaming, some encoding general desktop use, not intensive, so I care about boot times and reads mostly.

Right now considering pretty much all options depending on price/perf and reliability. I'm not fussed about SF2281 anymore as the bugs appear to have been found.

Just depends on how long you want to wait, I guess. Might be worth living in the moment and utilizing another more economical sized drive to get that system running on SSD power for the lapse before the Everest 2 would be on shelves.

IOW, I doubt it would be worth waiting to finish a build in anticipation for that drive.

http://www.techspot.com/news/46967-ocz-reveals-indilinx-everest-2-ssd-controller-due-this-june.html

 

[Obsoleet]

Didn't need to spend a dime..

And, I bet if you had to buy one, you wouldn't. Doesn't matter, because you haven't had to make a real consumer decision like the rest of us do. We can't afford to spend $600+ like I did on my 160GB G2 3+ years ago, and have trouble.

and yes I am. Flawless drive so far for myself and the "team" using them. Add no need for toolbox utilitie's and such?(BTW.. all others will eventually get there too)

Why wait? When others are already in the position of Intel, Samsung and to a lesser degree, Crucial.. why not just buy the best consumer product? Or, just wait for everyone else to catch up? Makes no sense and you admitted it yourself that you'll have to wait for them to get there.

I tend to defend against constant, and often misinformed, slander of OCZ because I like the general hardware lineup and overly agressive enthusiast type "on the edge" mentality that they offer me. It's been no secret that I'll take speed over stability most any day since I have so many alternate drives to boot from with the click of a button or two.

Because it sounds like you have many drives and don't pay for them. That's not someone who should be giving advice to others who have an important decision to make and they can't just spend another $200 to replace it.
Well, they WILL once it BSODs.. and then you have people like me and many others who won't buy OCZ again.

Only time will heal the wounds for some and for others like me, I'll die before I buy another OCZ product. :biggrin:

BUT.. that doesn't mean I can't understand others need for "assured stability" or the beef that some may have with OCZ from past misdealings. I don't need or feel the urge to be any more candid than I already am around here though and certainly don't need add any more fuel to the fire than others are so quick to do already. Bashing something while you're trying to help someone just seems to undermine the whole idea of posting in the first place, right?

If the bashing is widespread, relevant and not a product of blind fanboyism, then it's a good thing. That's how the market works.

If you like a particular drive?.. that's great! Surely your right to tell people why you have the opinion that you do. But constantly slandering against another company while doing that, and especially when you don't have all the information needed to make more educated comments gets old rather quickly. Also helps to tell folks that you haven't actually owned a particular drive that your adamently recommending as well since that too is often misleading to others who may rely on your opinion,.. IMO.

There is no unwarranted slander against OCZ on this forum. Most of us have 1st hand experience, and spend our own money to learn about it.
Because I use G2s still and prefer the new Samsung over all the other drives on the market? Anyone can verify that Samsung makes rock solid drives, my opinion can be backed up by many. Just as OCZs failures can be backed up by many.
Once Apple switches to OCZ, I'll believe you and disregard my respect for Samsung.

Firsthand experience always trumps speculation is all I'm really getting at here and no offense was ever intended with the playful jabs.

Sure it wasn't buddy.
And I have first hand experience, I spent the money, had the trouble dealing with OCZ and I can say: stay away. They work well, if not perfectly for some people, but those of us with first hand experience need to spread the word or more undeserved purchases will go through for their product. Again, that's how the market is supposed to work.
There's no need to give anyone, even Intel with their 8MB bug, a free pass.
I've personally decided I'm moving to Samsung (at least today) and recommend Samsung over Intel (which I rely on daily, for near 4 years without issue)- based on their even better track record. People are free to verify Samsung's quality, or the fact Apple relies on them for most of their drives.

Amazing how for you and your purposes, it's a bad thing when people promote what they buy, then when someone is objective and suggests a BETTER product than they own, that's also bad! So who am I supposed to listen to, you?

I'm listening to Anand, he also has a large team and stash of SSDs- and OCZ still has reliability issues that most of us personally experienced in years and months past.

 

[groberts101]

ROFLAO. Nice bubble there... POP!

and what it sounds like?.. is FAARRR too much assumption being made about me, my experience, and overview of various SSD controllers here. If you want to know without the added shroud, attitude, or assumptions?.. simply ask.

If you want to make assumptions?.. then you're doing an excellent job at it. 😉

 

[Obsoleet]

ROFLAO. Nice bubble there... POP!

and what it sounds like?.. is FAARRR too much assumption being made about me, my experience, and overview of various SSD controllers here. If you want to know without the added shroud, attitude, or assumptions?.. simply ask.

If you want to make assumptions?.. then you're doing an excellent job at it. 😉

You like to try to focus on me, and not on the topics at hand. The hammer was dropped on you buddy, difficult points to avoid though, I know. Feel free to explain how you > Anand for SSD recommendations. Or the multitudes of anti-OCZ crusaders in the forums. Or, why we should all wait for OCZ to catch up and create a SSD toolbox like Intel and Samsung. Or, why OCZ doesn't have the Apple contract.

 

[=Wendy=]

ho hum
Personally, I'm fed up of bickering and thread trolling that's going on here.

Regardless of which SSD is the best, one fact is for sure, bickering does chase people away from a forum.
Why don't you guys get a room?

Sorry for going off topic.

 

[Shmee]

Totally agree with Wendy. And I thought I already asked for the bickering to stop :C

I don't want to have to close this thread, but I may if things continue down this path.

 

[Old Hippie]

Totally agree with Wendy. And I thought I already asked for the bickering to stop :C

I don't want to have to close this thread, but I may if things continue down this path.

Well poop!

I just got my popcorn, beer, and lawnchair! :biggrin:

 

[bryanW1995]

I'm going to follow anands advice on this one and wait a while on ocz. Most of us seem to agree that ocz has been iffy in the past, and most of us agree that the jury is still out on the new octanes. I'll let others do the beta testing and buy something with high reliability/low price on bf 2012.