OCZ 3700 GOLD: Building High-Performance Memory

[megamanS]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but from what I gathered from the article, OCZ made their chips run at higher speeds by shaving off some of the top material with a laser?

I'm just trying to picture people taking sandpaper to their ram chips for better overclocks...

 

[panhead49]

i was thinking the same..........sandpaper...and maybe worse........dremels...grinders....ummm....what else.???......

 

[wicktron]

Heh, some people had their panties in a bunch about the whole situation a few weeks ago: Here

 

[megamanS]

Wow, seems to be a lot of controversy hovering around DDR right now. Maybe Rambus isn't out of the game just yet.

 

[bacillus]

whatever they've done, the end result is a great stick of ram for o/clocking!
I don't see a problem.

 

[Adul]

the basicly vaporized a 7 mil layer of the packaging which is just enough to aid in better heat disapation. Got to give them credit for a simple but very worthwhile idea.

 

[Apocalypse23]

what about pc3200 @ 2 X 256 ddr platinum EL ram. I just bought it and will it work good enough?A

 

[0roo0roo]

ocz?

 

[Apocalypse23]

yea its from OCZ, here are the specs:

http://www.ocztechnology.com/products/memory/OCZ+EL+DDR+PC-3200+Dual+Channel+Platinum

 

[BaboonGuy]

EL ram is supposed to be very very good.

 

[Howard]

I thought OCZ was a pretty bad place to buy from. What happened to their negative reputation?

 

[wicktron]

Originally posted by: Howard
What happened to their negative reputation?

It died.

 

[jaeger66]

Originally posted by: wixt0r


It died.

Only among the noobs and the ignorant .

 

[wicktron]

That's why in the comments section of that article, AT writer Kristopher Kubicki says: I visted with them a month or two ago, they seem a lot less like the company I visited 18 months ago.

And Evan Lieb adds: Yeah, they've changed quite a bit Kris. Their product's performance and their customer support today makes them a much more reputable memory contender than they were 1 or 2 years ago.

Guess that makes AT's writers noobish and ignorant.

 

[First]

Originally posted by: wixt0r

That's why in the comments section of that article, AT writer Kristopher Kubicki says: I visted with them a month or two ago, they seem a lot less like the company I visited 18 months ago.

And Evan Lieb adds: Yeah, they've changed quite a bit Kris. Their product's performance and their customer support today makes them a much more reputable memory contender than they were 1 or 2 years ago.

Guess that makes AT's writers noobish and ignorant.

According to jaeger66, yes, it does.

Anyone with half a brain and a couple OCZ modules in hand can figure out that OCZ's products are top-of-the-line. If you haven't dealt with their customer service reps you ought to, they're a pleasure to deal with.

 

[Jeff7181]

Originally posted by: Evan Lieb

Originally posted by: wixt0r

That's why in the comments section of that article, AT writer Kristopher Kubicki says: I visted with them a month or two ago, they seem a lot less like the company I visited 18 months ago.

And Evan Lieb adds: Yeah, they've changed quite a bit Kris. Their product's performance and their customer support today makes them a much more reputable memory contender than they were 1 or 2 years ago.

Guess that makes AT's writers noobish and ignorant.

According to jaeger66, yes, it does.

Anyone with half a brain and a couple OCZ modules in hand can figure out that OCZ's products are top-of-the-line. If you haven't dealt with their customer service reps you ought to, they're a pleasure to deal with.

That's just it... the people who are bashing them most likely don't even own their product... they just repeat other people's experiences.

 

[kinji55]

How are these compared with the Mushkin level II pc3500 chips?

 

[Sunner]

Originally posted by: wixt0r

That's why in the comments section of that article, AT writer Kristopher Kubicki says: I visted with them a month or two ago, they seem a lot less like the company I visited 18 months ago.

And Evan Lieb adds: Yeah, they've changed quite a bit Kris. Their product's performance and their customer support today makes them a much more reputable memory contender than they were 1 or 2 years ago.

Guess that makes AT's writers noobish and ignorant.

Sounds alot like the way people love to bash IBM/Hitachi drives due to the problems they had with the 75GXP series, even though the 75GXP has been retired for several years.

 

[Arcanedeath]

I'll still happily bash IBM for the 75GXP, mines died 3 times and they sent me a serviceable used part thats died shortly after I got it each time (at this point I just wrote off the drive not worth shipping it back and forth anymore), and on top of that it took them over a week to send the drive back each time, their customer service is awful and they won't even admit that they had a QC issue w/ the entire 75GXP line and recall them like they should have, IBM is just screwing the consumer as usual.... :|

 

[jaeger66]

Originally posted by: Sunner


Sounds alot like the way people love to bash IBM/Hitachi drives due to the problems they had with the 75GXP series, even though the 75GXP has been retired for several years.

So? In that case the drive was only half the issue. The main disaster was how IBM reacted. Instead of owning up like WD with the "Cadaver", they tried to sweep it under the rug. It was the ATTITUDE that was so awful, and obviously permeates the entire division. EVERY company has a few skeletons in their closet. It's how they deal with their failures that makes a lasting impression. And how did OCZ deal with their failures? By boarding up the windows and fleeing the state.

 

[jaeger66]

Originally posted by: wixt0r


Guess that makes AT's writers noobish and ignorant.

Their AT status means nothing, as some of the recent articles demonstrate. Any fool can run benchmarks, you don't think there's 100 people on these forums that could do the job as well or better? Maybe it used to mean something, before Anand decided he had better things to do than run his site. Appeal to Authority is always a logical fallacy, but it's even more absurd than usual under these conditions.

I wonder how all these OCZ fanboys feel about the Chinatown street vendors selling 1.8A CPUs as 2.4B's(I mean they run so who cares right)? But since OCZ is REALLY nice about it's all OK. How sweet.

 

[wicktron]

Originally posted by: jaeger66

Originally posted by: wixt0r


Guess that makes AT's writers noobish and ignorant.

Their AT status means nothing, as some of the recent articles demonstrate. Any fool can run benchmarks, you don't think there's 100 people on these forums that could do the job as well or better? Maybe it used to mean something, before Anand decided he had better things to do than run his site. Appeal to Authority is always a logical fallacy, but it's even more absurd than usual under these conditions.

I wonder how all these OCZ fanboys feel about the Chinatown street vendors selling 1.8A CPUs as 2.4B's(I mean they run so who cares right)? But since OCZ is REALLY nice about it's all OK. How sweet.

What status? Did I even mention anywhere that because they are AT writers means they are hardware gods or the greatest hardware reviewers on earth? NO. You are making an assumption. You are also insulting the very website that you so visit and criticize. And what do the recent articles demonstrate? They are informative, unbiased, and just. Just because they don't cater to your every whim does not mean they are not good guides to the general populous. If you don't like it, leave, go to whatever hardware site you prefer. How about you start writing reviews and contribute to the community, then I'll accept your credibility as a person who claims that "any fool can run benchmarks." They can, but can they do it under proper conditions, and conditions which satisfy a general demographic of computer users?

Where are the OCZ fanboys? Nobody here is saying "OMG, OCZ is the greatest, buy OCZ RAM only, fvck the rest of the manufacturers." NO. I am just as much a Mushkin, Corsair, Kingston fanboy as I am an OCZ fanboy. I like quality products. OCZ produces a quality product. This is not the same as Hong Kong street vendors reselling 1.8A's as 2.4B's. OCZ has direct permission from Samsung to relabel and modify their IC's to their liking.

 

[wicktron]

Originally posted by: Sunner

Originally posted by: wixt0r

That's why in the comments section of that article, AT writer Kristopher Kubicki says: I visted with them a month or two ago, they seem a lot less like the company I visited 18 months ago.

And Evan Lieb adds: Yeah, they've changed quite a bit Kris. Their product's performance and their customer support today makes them a much more reputable memory contender than they were 1 or 2 years ago.

Guess that makes AT's writers noobish and ignorant.

Sounds alot like the way people love to bash IBM/Hitachi drives due to the problems they had with the 75GXP series, even though the 75GXP has been retired for several years.

Exactly... The 120/180GXP series of drives are wonderful.

 

[First]

We've been told by many sources with no relationship to OCZ whatsoever that they've been hearing and seeing the major overhauls at OCZ the last 18-24 months. OCZ themselves admits they have gone through various overhauls. Compared to the OCZ dark ages, OCZ's current customer service reps, tech support, and RMA policy is among the best of the mainstream memory makers (Crucial perhaps being #1) and high performance memory makers (Corsair perhaps being #1). These facts, in combination with the already proven performance of OCZ's latest modules should be all the evidence anyone needs to feel safe with OCZ products. If you are still skeptical buy Crucial or Corsair or some other memory, don't go around telling people OCZ is worthless without a single contemporary shred of evidence to back up your claims.

 

[tbates757]

It looks like many have forgotten the quote:

"Never argue with idiots. They'll only drag you down to their level and beat you with experience."

Don't argue with jaeger66.