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OCZ 256MB PC-3500 Enhanced Latency CL2

Garric

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Does this memory occupy only a single bank? Can someone explain what 32 x 64 means, as is seen on the sticker here : https://www.ramstore.ca/showproduct.php?id=109? Does this mean 64 bit RAM, 32 MB/chip (which means 256 Mbit chip density), which would imply 32 MByte x 8 organization(single-sided?)

Thank you,
Garric
 

Denkkar

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I have OCZ PC-2700 CL2 RAM, indeed two 256 meg versions. I believe it is configured as 32x64 as well. I noticed that it was mostly single sided, but there may have seen a stray chip on the other side too, although it's not easy to tell with the blasted heatsink blocking my view. I also noted that both sticks, though identically identified, are not of the same physical proportions (one is larger than the other, and one has chips pointed on the opposite side relative to the other). I would think they are counterfeits, except they look exactly like what OCZ claims they should look like on their website.

BTW: The two sticks I recieved are going straight back to the store, as they operate in a stable fashion, at the awesome speed of 100 (200 DDR) mhz. Yes folks, Performance Series Revision 3.2 RAM performing at 100/200 mhz. How pitiful. Both of them. Ouch. Hope the two new sticks I'm gonna get aren't drawn from the same batch :-(

One more thing, your obviously a fellow Canadian if your shopping at a *.ca site. I recommend you get Corsair memory instead, I've not heard of anyone having problems with that memory, and lots of beefs, mine included, with OCZ memory. Have it shipped from the US if you have to. It will probably be worth it.

Failing that, you can get OCZ RAM cheaper at: http://www.pccanada.com/inventory.asp?cat=memory
They ship it for 15$ and if you don't live in Ontario, you'll probably not even have to pay provincial taxes, so that absorbs the shipping & handling right there. I recieved my goods by UPS in just 2 buisness days.
 

pillage2001

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Avoid OCZ at all cost. Their RAm sucks the hardest. The chances of you gettign a bad stick is higher than you actually getting a good one.
 

Mrspec3

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Guys the new PC3500 is great ram. Their old stuff was crap but this stuff kicks ass. I've seen people running it at DDR500 max timings.

Min is at 220Mhz for now due to my /4 pci divider and any more FSB will corrupt my HDD

OCZ PC3500 and ME!!

Steve
 

BigJ

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Originally posted by: Mrspec3
Guys the new PC3500 is great ram. Their old stuff was crap but this stuff kicks ass. I've seen people running it at DDR500 max timings.

Min is at 220Mhz for now due to my /4 pci divider and any more FSB will corrupt my HDD

OCZ PC3500 and ME!!

Steve

I'm sorry, but until we see that OCZ has decided to turn their operation 180degrees around, I will never touch their ram again. The same goes for many people on this board who have witnessed OCZ's shady dealings in the past with their store and their RAM.

The first few batches of the 3500 might be golden, but what about down the road? And OCZ is known quite ofting for hand picking only the best RAM out of all their chips and sending it to reviewers to attract more customers, which is a poor reflection of actual quality people get (happened all the time in the past with the 2400 and 2700 parts)

 

tapir

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I've never seen a bad review or even bad comment about the new EL DDR. I'd stay away from the other stuff but that seems to be golden.
 

BigJ

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Originally posted by: tbates757
Some people should get over their vendettas

Ever hear of the saying "Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me"?

The truth is too many people on this board have been burnt by OCZ and all their name changes in the past to cover things up, and until OCZ totally cleans up their act, people will be continuing to stay away.
 

Mikki

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If they are indeed making quality, high performing memory, and continue to do so, people will buy it, simple as that. I personally could care less what they've done in the past, if that particular memory is the top performer, then I'm gonna buy it, and so will the other folks that don't care about it. I say again: AMD? Intel? Coke? Pepsi? Who the heck cares? Tastes great? I'm drinking it!!! ;)

Just my 2 1/2 cents...
 

BigJ

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Originally posted by: Mikki
If they are indeed making quality, high performing memory, and continue to do so, people will buy it, simple as that. I personally could care less what they've done in the past, if that particular memory is the top performer, then I'm gonna buy it, and so will the other folks that don't care about it. I say again: AMD? Intel? Coke? Pepsi? Who the heck cares? Tastes great? I'm drinking it!!! ;)

Just my 2 1/2 cents...

Very true, but I'm not gonna be the first to jump into things! How's the 1.7m coming along? I think its time for a GB upgrade :D
 

Mikki

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...and I won't either mate, but more because of cash flow than anything. If it is good, word'll get out....;)

...waiting on memory before I can go further...GB's after that...:);)
 

BigJ

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Originally posted by: Mikki
...and I won't either mate, but more because of cash flow than anything. If it is good, word'll get out....;)

...waiting on memory before I can go further...GB's after that...:);)

Ohhh man, I might have to build another rig just so I can try one of those 1.7ms out myself...
 

CraigRT

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Originally posted by: pillage2001
Avoid OCZ at all cost. Their RAm sucks the hardest. The chances of you gettign a bad stick is higher than you actually getting a good one.

utter junk.
avoid GEIL too... pure nightmare. if i ever see that crap again in real life i will turn to stone..

J U N K.
 

Mikki

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I just ordered some XMS3500, so I obviously am not jumping on the OCZ bandwagon, and I don't want to pi$$ anyone off or invite a flame war, but I gotta ask...has any of you that are slamming this new OCZ stuff actually tested it? :)
 

BigJ

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Originally posted by: Mikki
I just ordered some XMS3500, so I obviously am not jumping on the OCZ bandwagon, and I don't want to pi$$ anyone off or invite a flame war, but I gotta ask...has any of you that are slamming this new OCZ stuff actually tested it? :)

Not the new stuff, but everything from the company ranging from PC2400 - PC3200, and I cannot say I've been happy with one single stick of it. Near impossible to get a stick that does its listed specs, which is why I've either sold the RAM or exchanged it for some better stuff. Geil I have never honestly tried, but I'm going to try to stay away from that also.

As for the OCZ memory, the 3500 EL2 looks good in theory, but besides those 2 places, I cannot find one single other review of the RAM. Via reviews like those is the way I bought into the PC2400, PC2700, and PC3200 RAM they made, and all I can see is pffft to that.
 

BigJ

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Originally posted by: Mikki
That's cool mate, I'm just curious...;):)

NP, I guess you can see why I'm obviously a little bit peeved whenever someone mentions ::shudder:: OCZ. Still having nightmares about the stuff, but I have my Corsair XMS 3500CL2 to keep me safe at night ;)
 

Mrspec3

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All of you people who hate OCZ should just ignore this thread. We are not talking about the company and how shitty they USED to be. The new ram kicks ass and untill you test it for yourselves you should all just................
 

Mikki

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I could care less either way...but I'm very disappointed with the response from the folks in this forum. We aren't supposed to care about that kind of stuff, if the stuff rocks, if it's the top performer, we buy it. And I'm disappointed by the number of folks that slam this stuff and they haven't even tried it....like I said, I could care less, but....:(
 

VFAA

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Originally posted by: pillage2001
Avoid OCZ at all cost. Their RAm sucks the hardest. The chances of you gettign a bad stick is higher than you actually getting a good one.

Only thing at ATOT to avoid is ignorants who have no 1st hand experience at a particular product. Instead they rant about how bad it is from 1 review web site that is trying to get noticed :disgust:...

I have a couple of OCZ 256MB PC2700 REV3.2 sticks and they are both single sided. Work great and are stable at very aggressive timings (CL2/2/2/5/1T)
I also had experience with 2 OCZ 256MB PC3500EL sticks and they too were single sided. In my experience with OCZ, they make all of their 256MB modules as single sided.
In my AMD setup (main rig), I'm using a OCZ 512MB PC3200 REV2 (double sided) stick and I'm running it at 200MHz, and lowest possible timings my mobo can give (CL2/2/2/6/1T).
It helped overclock my XP 2400+ all the way to 2.5GHz (see my other thread in this topic).

In my testing experience, OCZ beats Corsair and Samsung RAM hands down. Corsair came very close but I wasn't able to make the RAM stable at very low timings.

OCZ is great RAM if you only know how to use it properly (ABIT mobos work best).
 

CraigRT

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Originally posted by: VFAA
Originally posted by: pillage2001
Avoid OCZ at all cost. Their RAm sucks the hardest. The chances of you gettign a bad stick is higher than you actually getting a good one.

Only thing at ATOT to avoid is ignorants who have no 1st hand experience at a particular product. Instead they rant about how bad it is from 1 review web site that is trying to get noticed :disgust:...

So you assume that just because you have success that others must too? well, i have first hand experience and i don't want it ever again. it's an utter headache. I will make sure that never again is garbage memory like that touching my system..
 

mechBgon

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Originally posted by: VFAA
Originally posted by: pillage2001
Avoid OCZ at all cost. Their RAm sucks the hardest. The chances of you gettign a bad stick is higher than you actually getting a good one.

Only thing at ATOT to avoid is ignorants who have no 1st hand experience at a particular product. Instead they rant about how bad it is from 1 review web site that is trying to get noticed :disgust:...

I have a couple of OCZ 256MB PC2700 REV3.2 sticks and they are both single sided. Work great and are stable at very aggressive timings (CL2/2/2/5/1T)
I also had experience with 2 OCZ 256MB PC3500EL sticks and they too were single sided. In my experience with OCZ, they make all of their 256MB modules as single sided.
In my AMD setup (main rig), I'm using a OCZ 512MB PC3200 REV2 (double sided) stick and I'm running it at 200MHz, and lowest possible timings my mobo can give (CL2/2/2/6/1T).
It helped overclock my XP 2400+ all the way to 2.5GHz (see my other thread in this topic).

In my testing experience, OCZ beats Corsair and Samsung RAM hands down. Corsair came very close but I wasn't able to make the RAM stable at very low timings.

OCZ is great RAM if you only know how to use it properly (ABIT mobos work best).

Frankly, the opposite is true for me. I haven't formed my opinion from reviews; the company can hand-pick a module for review. I've formed it from the number of people I've tried to help here at the forums, people whose systems won't run stable with OCZ memory. If you happen to have some OCZ that actually works, great :D but they have earned their reputation as far as I'm concerned.