OCUK: 290X "Slightly faster than GTX 780"

[blackened23]

Are there hotter? Sure. I have a thing for chicks with dark hair that are short or medium height, though. She also looks normal and not glamorized (with tons of make up and plastic surgery) like movie stars and what not, which is a net plus for me.

Anyway, this is all off topic so I digress.

 

[Face2Face]

I read somewhere that AMD is not allowing partners to use their custom cooling solutions on the R9 290X, which majorly blows. Looks like they may be trying to do what Nvidia did with Titan, though at first glance the Titan cooler looks to be much better. Let's hope this isn't true. I hope at least they let partners install their coolers on the R9 290, which could be the card to get and OC like the 7950.

 

[chimaxi83]

Also, to put a final nail in the rebadge coffin for the non believers

http://videocardz.com/46162/msi-radeon-r9-280x-gaming-pictured-detailed

Lol why do you keep droning on and on and on about rebadges? WE KNOW.

 

[Face2Face]

Lol why do you keep droning on and on and on about rebadges? WE KNOW.

Yeah it sees like the R9 290 and R290X will be the only new cards we are looking at this go round. With the other exception being the R7 260X with True Audio sound. This is kind of like what Nvidia did with the 700 series thus far, not a big deal since we are all so used to it. We just want to see Hawaii VS. GK110!! Bring on the benchmarks!

 

[Cloudfire777]

Lol why do you keep droning on and on and on about rebadges? WE KNOW.

Because there were several people here who didnt believe me earlier, and posted some OCUK link where a dude said none of the cards presented were rebadges.

Are there hotter? Sure. I have a thing for chicks with dark hair that are short or medium height, though. She also looks normal and not glamorized (with tons of make up and plastic surgery) like movie stars and what not, which is a net plus for me.

Anyway, this is all off topic so I digress.

Very specific lol

 

[Cloudfire777]

That chick towards the end, A++. Best part of the video by far.

I wonder of this is the same girl...

 

[blackened23]

Nope, no similarity. The chick in the video apparently didn't work for AMD (while that one clearly does) and the one you picture has a different facial structure, worse teeth, and looks older. Doesn't look cute at all. (highly subjective obviously). Let's stop talking about this, though - I know you love off topic stuff, and I shouldn't have mentioned it.

 

[3DVagabond]

You didn't read the whole article?

Do you even read what you post. Foreseeable future is not won't be any.

 

[Teizo]

I read somewhere that AMD is not allowing partners to use their custom cooling solutions on the R9 290X, which majorly blows. Looks like they may be trying to do what Nvidia did with Titan, though at first glance the Titan cooler looks to be much better. Let's hope this isn't true. I hope at least they let partners install their coolers on the R9 290, which could be the card to get and OC like the 7950.

If that is the case then that may mean chances of overclocking the card much further may not be all that great?

That really does not make much sense imho. I can kinda see with Titan since it is an entry level compute card, etc...but the R9 290x is a pure gaming card. Even though it is a bit deceptive imho...selling products deliberately underclocked so customers can easily overclock their cards (which increases excitement in enthusiasts)...I guess you still have to have the cards line up with the competition (and beat) as much as possible.

 

[Teizo]

Also, to put a final nail in the rebadge coffin for the non believers

http://videocardz.com/46162/msi-radeon-r9-280x-gaming-pictured-detailed

That amount of performance for only $200 is a really good deal though. Heck, if they had inventory right now and I didn't have to pay for re-shipping (and lose my original shipping as well) I would consider getting two of those. But, even though I have not personally tried XFire...as I understand it (and from my experience with it)...SLI is a bit more polished. That may change with the R9 290s however since they appear to have a new way of doing it.

http://videocardz.com/46200/nvidia-working-geforce-gtx-770-ti-1920-cuda-cores

Nvidia is not sitting still...

Great...they'll lower the price of the 760 and 770 now I bet.

Thanks guys. Right on time..

 

[rgallant]

Also, to put a final nail in the rebadge coffin for the non believers

http://videocardz.com/46162/msi-radeon-r9-280x-gaming-pictured-detailed

thank god we have the gtx 760 and gtx 770 to save us from rebrands
not sure what you think your doing but man get a clue.

 

[tviceman]

Do you even read what you post. Foreseeable future is not won't be any.

Initially riiiiiiiight. So if you ask a girl out, and she says she will not go on a date with you for the foreseeable future, do you tell all your friends she said "just not right now"?

You have a hard time dealing with rejection, don't you?

 

[tviceman]

thank god we have the gtx 760 and gtx 770 to save us from rebrands
not sure what you think your doing but man get a clue.

What is the 760 a rebrand of? And not to get all technicallyish with you, but the 770 has obvious upside over the 680.... the vram in case you didn't know. What upside will the r280 have over the 7970ge?

 

[Face2Face]

What is the 760 a rebrand of? And not to get all technicallyish with you, but the 770 has obvious upside over the 680.... the vram in case you didn't know. What upside will the r280 have over the 7970ge?

Faster vram as well, just not as fast as the GTX 770.

http://www.tomshardware.com/news/radeon-r9-280x-double-dissipation-7970,24451.html

 

[VulgarDisplay]

What is the 760 a rebrand of? And not to get all technicallyish with you, but the 770 has obvious upside over the 680.... the vram in case you didn't know. What upside will the r280 have over the 7970ge?

The 280x has been listed as Tahiti xtl and not Tahiti xt. Doesn't sound like it will be exactly identical, but who knows everyone including the news sites are all speculating until we get hard facts.

 

[BoFox]

And? GTX580 and HD4890 are 2 perfect examples of GPUs having too much memory bandwidth for their GPU power.

If I take your words literally, you'd be wrong on this:

http://www.anandtech.com/show/2758/2

And GTX 580 has much lower bandwidth for its GPU power than HD 4890 does (yielding more than 2% per 10% increase in bandwidth as long as the GDDR5 timings are not automatically relaxed).

Only HD 2900XT would be the near-(>1%)perfect example.

But I get your point, in terms of "balancing" GPU muscle for bandwidth. HD 4890 could've certainly used 960sp instead of 800, and a bit slower memory controllers that saved 10-20W of electricity or more (giving more room for GPU muscle).

 

[tviceman]

Faster vram as well, just not as fast as the GTX 770.

http://www.tomshardware.com/news/radeon-r9-280x-double-dissipation-7970,24451.html

I saw a link to an msi 280x that had slower vram. So are you linking a non-reference design or is that the set minimum vram speed and the link I saw was incorrect?

 

[Face2Face]

I saw a link to an msi 280x that had slower vram. So are you linking a non-reference design or is that the set minimum vram speed and the link I saw was incorrect?

Yeah I just saw that MSI card to... hmm not really sure then?

This article points at the XFX card again -

It states that the main difference between the Radeon R9 280X and Radeon 7970 GHz Edition will be in the memory clock speed (6,4Ghz instead of 7970′s 6 GHz). It is expected that the GPU clock speeds might be over 1Ghz, but we have no confirmation for that at this point in time.

Same here:

http://videocardz.com/amd/radeon-r200/radeon-r9-280x

 

[RussianSensation]

If I take your words literally, you'd be wrong on this:.

Sorry, I am not sure I followed your example in this case. It proves my point that HD4890 had way too much memory bandwidth for its GPU power. If you look at 580, it's also the case for it. Just compare 570/480/580. These cards' GPU overclocking is what drove performance the most, not memory bandwidth. In either case my point was that the insinuation that 300GB/sec is too little for R9 290X is just a conjecture. In any event with a 512-bit bus, overclocking should net larger gains if there is a bottleneck. (Note: maybe you were implying that 580 benefited more from memory overclocking than 4890 did but I didn't make a comparison specifically between 4890 vs. 580's memory scaling).

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As far as people crying foul that R9 290X is a rebadge, what difference does it make? This entire GTX700 / R9 2xx series "refresH' generation is lame and most of us only care for R9 290X vs. 780, while waiting patiently for 20nm cards. Those MSI R9 280X cards have 1.05Ghz / 5500mhz clocks, which means just 500mhz slower on the memory vs. 7970Ghz. At $299, this undercuts 770 2-4GB by $80-150. Performance wise, 770 has nothing worth talking about vs. 7970Ghz in games:
http://www.computerbase.de/artikel/grafikkarten/2013/nvidia-geforce-gtx-760-im-test/4/

R9 280X is then is essentially 95-97% of GTX770 for way less $. What's the problem?

 

[BoFox]

I cannot believe you even brought this up. You realize that the gap in power usage between 5870 and GTX480 was gargantuan? 144W vs. 257W for say an 18% difference in performance at stock. How are you even using this as an example unless you think R9 290X and 780 will have a difference in power usage of 78%?

And BTW I bought 470s and overclocked the hell out of them anyway despite them using way more power than 5850s. It's not that people don't care about power consumption but it's context that matters. 30-40W hasn't killed anyone when spending $600 on a GPU. Again, the very idea that R9 290X will use 30-40W is also completely made up at this point. I just used it as an example for hypothetical reasons and then showed clearly that your motherboard choice alone can negate that. So what now we are going to list every person's rig on this forum and start adding up total power usage?



What's the price of 270 though? What about 270X and 280? One of those could come in at $199-249 and end up with a Tahiti Pro chip. Keep in mind when HD6870 came out, prices of 5850 and 5870 were lower. When older generation is cleared out, you can have some very good bargains. When 4890 came out, it also cost about 50% more than 4870 for a small performance bump.

Haha, good point about GTX 480 (it even used more electricity than HD 5970 in some/many cases)! :thumbsup: Just don't forget that HD 4870 had even more bandwidth for its GPU muscle than HD 4890.

 

[BoFox]

Noooo AMD.... liberate the custom designs for everyone... Matrix 290X will rock!

To me, this sounds like a very serious card like the TITAN, hopefully... (hey, why not, for the sake of competition! )

11:37 for those of you without 11 minutes and 37 seconds to waste.

No, no, no!!!! Don't blow the load! Save it for R9 290X!

 

[rgallant]

What is the 760 a rebrand of? And not to get all technicallyish with you, but the 770 has obvious upside over the 680.... the vram in case you didn't know. What upside will the r280 have over the 7970ge?

oh my post was not based on any fact only to counter op's amd thread crapping as he is posting rumors as fact , your reply should should have been his.
game play 680 vs 770 , 670 vs 760 = nil.
but to the the gtx 760 - 770 price wise if you do not compare the 4 gb $$$ vs amd 3gb amd models$$$ it looks like apples to oranges to me .nv knew that and stopped the $100+ for 4 gb vs 2 gb to fight off this launch of amd's new cards.
-the 2 gb 760-770 were lost leaders ,even some reviewers expressed concerns on 2gb sli. going forward.but reviewers still show cheaper 2gb vs vs 3 gb amd models
http://www.ncix.com/search/?categoryid=0&q=evga+gtx+770
for gtx 770 4gb sli add 2 x $70 +gst to get same ish vram future usability as amd's 3 gb.

 

[3DVagabond]

Initially riiiiiiiight. So if you ask a girl out, and she says she will not go on a date with you for the foreseeable future, do you tell all your friends she said "just not right now"?

You have a hard time dealing with rejection, don't you?

LOL. Oh yeah, that's the same thing.

Typically, there aren't any custom cards on release. To start with all of the chips are used to supply the reference designs. Your making a mountain out of a molehill.

 

[insertcarehere]

Haha, good point about GTX 480 (it even used more electricity than HD 5970 in some/many cases)! :thumbsup: Just don't forget that HD 4870 had even more bandwidth for its GPU muscle than HD 4890.

While that was true, in the 4870s case, the memory bandwidth was limited by the fact that there were only 16rops that needed to have been fed, while the gtx480 had 48rops and could therefore be seen as more 'balanced'.

 

[BoFox]

a little bit. Bandwidth is usually, on average, about 2x as important as ROPs, from putting most modern DX9c+ video cards out there together.

the 16 rops saved some power for hd 4870, in exchange for having lots of bandwidth. Worse is GTX 280/285 having even more bandwidth per GPU muscle ratio while ALSO having 32 ROPs. HD 4870 just had 2.5x more shaders than HD 3870 - much more than GTX 280's ratio of 1.875x over 8800 Ultra (which was also about just as bandwidth-saturated and even more considerably ROP-saturated for its GPU muscle).