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Octuplets' Mom Wants $2 Million From Oprah, Media Deals

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Originally posted by: WaTaGuMp
I was channel surfing and caught some comments on The View. They said something about if you wanna help, then send things the kids need like diapers etc. IMHO even though the kids are the victims here sending anything is still helping HER out.

Well, people should help the kids by sending diapers and such. They should not send money which could be spent inappropriately.
 
Originally posted by: Leros
Originally posted by: WaTaGuMp
I was channel surfing and caught some comments on The View. They said something about if you wanna help, then send things the kids need like diapers etc. IMHO even though the kids are the victims here sending anything is still helping HER out.

Well, people should help the kids by sending diapers and such. They should not send money which could be spent inappropriately.

she'd just ebay them
 
Octuplets' grandmother faces foreclosure threat

LOS ANGELES (Reuters) ? The grandmother of California's newborn octuplets faces the threat of foreclosure on the house she has shared with her daughter and six of her grandchildren, property records revealed on Wednesday.

According to a mortgage default notice filed last week with the Los Angeles County Registrar-Recorder's Office, Angela Suleman is more than $23,000 behind in payments on her house in the Los Angeles suburb of Whittier, an agency spokesman said.

The default notice was first made public when a copy of the document, giving Suleman three months to settle her debt in order to avoid foreclosure, was posted on the celebrity news website TMZ.com.

The papers indicate Suleman last made a payment on the three-bedroom house in May 2008 and has filed for bankruptcy.

Texas-based debt collection agency NDEx West, operating on behalf of mortgage lender IndyMac Federal Bank, declined comment and Suleman could not immediately be reached for comment.

Her daughter, Nadya, 33, jobless and receiving food stamps, drew international headlines and a torrent of public ridicule after giving birth January 26 to octuplets conceived through in vitro fertilization.

That criticism intensified when it was learned she already had six children, ages 2 to 7, that she was collecting disability checks for three of them, and that they all were living with the grandmother.

Angela Suleman also has complained publicly of the financial burden and voiced skepticism about her daughter's ability to care for 14 children.

The public backlash grew so hostile that Nadya Suleman -- dubbed "octo-mom" in the tabloid press -- went into seclusion with her six older kids last week due to death threats, according to a publicity firm hired by the family.

Spokesman Michael Furtney, whose firm has since severed ties with Suleman because of the threats, said she and her children recently moved back in with the grandmother.
 
Originally posted by: Capt Caveman
Octuplets' grandmother faces foreclosure threat

LOS ANGELES (Reuters) ? The grandmother of California's newborn octuplets faces the threat of foreclosure on the house she has shared with her daughter and six of her grandchildren, property records revealed on Wednesday.

According to a mortgage default notice filed last week with the Los Angeles County Registrar-Recorder's Office, Angela Suleman is more than $23,000 behind in payments on her house in the Los Angeles suburb of Whittier, an agency spokesman said.

The default notice was first made public when a copy of the document, giving Suleman three months to settle her debt in order to avoid foreclosure, was posted on the celebrity news website TMZ.com.

The papers indicate Suleman last made a payment on the three-bedroom house in May 2008 and has filed for bankruptcy.

Texas-based debt collection agency NDEx West, operating on behalf of mortgage lender IndyMac Federal Bank, declined comment and Suleman could not immediately be reached for comment.

Her daughter, Nadya, 33, jobless and receiving food stamps, drew international headlines and a torrent of public ridicule after giving birth January 26 to octuplets conceived through in vitro fertilization.

That criticism intensified when it was learned she already had six children, ages 2 to 7, that she was collecting disability checks for three of them, and that they all were living with the grandmother.

Angela Suleman also has complained publicly of the financial burden and voiced skepticism about her daughter's ability to care for 14 children.

The public backlash grew so hostile that Nadya Suleman -- dubbed "octo-mom" in the tabloid press -- went into seclusion with her six older kids last week due to death threats, according to a publicity firm hired by the family.

Spokesman Michael Furtney, whose firm has since severed ties with Suleman because of the threats, said she and her children recently moved back in with the grandmother.

So the family could afford a PR firm, but not a mortgage.
 
Originally posted by: DrPizza
Originally posted by: alkemyst
Originally posted by: trmiv
Apparently the doctor that injected her also helped knock up a 49 year old women with quadruplets.

http://www.nbclosangeles.com/h...-With-Quadruplets.html

not the docs fault really...these women paid.

To those that don't think otherwise...can you please link to where the octo-retard is gainfully employed?

Yes, it is the doctor's fault. It's called ethics.

I believe that when that many embryos are viable, they usually abort some. What can the doctor do if the mother wants to keep them all and never goes in for the procedure? The doctor cannot exactly drag her in. If she deceived the doctor and then simply quit showing up for follow-up visits, what can he do?
 
Originally posted by: alkemyst
2 generations of deadbeats have now seeded our country with 14 future ones.

how is it 2 generations? only one i see is the octo mom. her parents were supporting her and her 6 kids. lets see you do that when you should be retired and not concerned with supporting others.

i can't blame the grandparents. maybe this will get it in her daughters head that she is screweing up the lives of others then just her.


http://www.tmz.com/2009/02/18/...mom-i-need-a-new-home/

also according to TMZ she is begging for someone to buy her a home.

nice lady. they have pics of her shopping. with a huge wad of cash.
 
Originally posted by: ShotgunSteven
Originally posted by: DrPizza
Originally posted by: alkemyst
Originally posted by: trmiv
Apparently the doctor that injected her also helped knock up a 49 year old women with quadruplets.

http://www.nbclosangeles.com/h...-With-Quadruplets.html

not the docs fault really...these women paid.

To those that don't think otherwise...can you please link to where the octo-retard is gainfully employed?

Yes, it is the doctor's fault. It's called ethics.

I believe that when that many embryos are viable, they usually abort some. What can the doctor do if the mother wants to keep them all and never goes in for the procedure? The doctor cannot exactly drag her in. If she deceived the doctor and then simply quit showing up for follow-up visits, what can he do?

No they usually don't implant that many. He put in 6 and 2 went to twins. I think the average was implant 1-2 and maybe 3 for older women or those with higher risk of ti not taking. 6 is just way out there and I have not heard a doctor yet that says that happens.

If I remember she was given the option of reducing them but did not.

 
Originally posted by: Marlin1975
Originally posted by: ShotgunSteven
Originally posted by: DrPizza
Originally posted by: alkemyst
Originally posted by: trmiv
Apparently the doctor that injected her also helped knock up a 49 year old women with quadruplets.

http://www.nbclosangeles.com/h...-With-Quadruplets.html

not the docs fault really...these women paid.

To those that don't think otherwise...can you please link to where the octo-retard is gainfully employed?

Yes, it is the doctor's fault. It's called ethics.

I believe that when that many embryos are viable, they usually abort some. What can the doctor do if the mother wants to keep them all and never goes in for the procedure? The doctor cannot exactly drag her in. If she deceived the doctor and then simply quit showing up for follow-up visits, what can he do?

No they usually don't implant that many. He put in 6 and 2 went to twins. I think the average was implant 1-2 and maybe 3 for older women or those with higher risk of ti not taking. 6 is just way out there and I have not heard a doctor yet that says that happens.

If I remember she was given the option of reducing them but did not.

Just checked a few online sources, they say 2-4 standard, apparently with the possibility of more depending on the reasons for the trouble conceiving. (Just used Google and hit the first few sources, used keywords like "number, implant, in vitro," and such.)

So she was given the option and declined. Her fault then, though if the doctor thought he was doing the procedure on someone that was having issues conceiving, it seems like he should have had some test results or something to that end.

 
Originally posted by: ShotgunSteven
Originally posted by: Marlin1975
Originally posted by: ShotgunSteven
Originally posted by: DrPizza
Originally posted by: alkemyst
Originally posted by: trmiv
Apparently the doctor that injected her also helped knock up a 49 year old women with quadruplets.

http://www.nbclosangeles.com/h...-With-Quadruplets.html

not the docs fault really...these women paid.

To those that don't think otherwise...can you please link to where the octo-retard is gainfully employed?

Yes, it is the doctor's fault. It's called ethics.

I believe that when that many embryos are viable, they usually abort some. What can the doctor do if the mother wants to keep them all and never goes in for the procedure? The doctor cannot exactly drag her in. If she deceived the doctor and then simply quit showing up for follow-up visits, what can he do?

No they usually don't implant that many. He put in 6 and 2 went to twins. I think the average was implant 1-2 and maybe 3 for older women or those with higher risk of ti not taking. 6 is just way out there and I have not heard a doctor yet that says that happens.

If I remember she was given the option of reducing them but did not.

Just checked a few online sources, they say 2-4 standard, apparently with the possibility of more depending on the reasons for the trouble conceiving. (Just used Google and hit the first few sources, used keywords like "number, implant, in vitro," and such.)

So she was given the option and declined. Her fault then, though if the doctor thought he was doing the procedure on someone that was having issues conceiving, it seems like he should have had some test results or something to that end.


Any doctor should have full records and/or do new test. There was no reason to put more then 1-2 in her.
This was also the 2nd doctor as the first would not do it if I remember the story correct.
 
Is it wrong that I want to stick her and her 14 children in a spaceship, send it off into space, then nuke it from orbit? :|
 
Originally posted by: polarmystery
Is it wrong that I want to stick her and her 14 children in a spaceship, send it off into space, then nuke it from orbit? :|

The kids can stay, there are lots of loving families that would adopt one baby.
 
Originally posted by: polarmystery
Is it wrong that I want to stick her and her 14 children in a spaceship, send it off into space, then nuke it from orbit? :|

Lanolin, like sheeps wool?
 
I'm still waiting for daddy to come waltzing in and claim that he's entitled to half of the proceeds...oh! wait a minute, he doesn't want to get stuck with child support.
 
as far as doctor's ethics...I'd have to disagree. I don't think it's morally wrong to attempt to have more than embryo implanted...heck even 8, with the failed attempts I don't think anyone was expecting more than 50% at best.

One the mother's end though, she had no business going down this road. She couldn't afford the kids she had. It's obvious she thought that making the news with a sad story it would be a great profit maker.

Unfortunately the real victims are going to be the freaking kids. I don't see how most of them will grow up to be anything but parasites on our society and possibly violent criminals. They need help now to get them out of this situation before that happens.
 
I'm not knocking the doctor for that, my understanding is that this is standard practive when it comes to IVF.

I just don't understand why the doctor didn't stop and think, "Hmm, does this lady really need MORE kids?" when she already has six kids, doesn't have a job, doesn't have a husband or boyfriend to help support her, is disabled, lives with her parents, etc. If she could support that many children she would have my blessing, but it doesn't sound like that is the case. IMO, this lady never should have qualified for IVF in the first place.
 
Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: alkemyst
2 generations of deadbeats have now seeded our country with 14 future ones.

how is it 2 generations? only one i see is the octo mom. her parents were supporting her and her 6 kids. lets see you do that when you should be retired and not concerned with supporting others.

i can't blame the grandparents. maybe this will get it in her daughters head that she is screweing up the lives of others then just her.


http://www.tmz.com/2009/02/18/...mom-i-need-a-new-home/

also according to TMZ she is begging for someone to buy her a home.

nice lady. they have pics of her shopping. with a huge wad of cash.

the grandparents got royally hosed by octomom. their house and finances were turned upside down in order to support that crazy woman and her brood. definitely not a pleasant way to spend the latter half of their life.

 
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