Originally posted by: looker001Please tell me how it's physical possible for her to take care of 14 kids all by her self. Grandfather is contractor in iraq. Grandmother stated she will not help once she is back from hospital. Basically screw legal reasons and take kids away.
Duggers are totally different family. They had kids over 18 years and were able to set up so oldest being able to watch the youngest. Also, father is in the picture that works.
Originally posted by: dainthomasThat's 14 kids per parent. That would be like that Billy Bob guy and his wife in Arkansas having 28 kids under 8 years old. They have it pretty together for fundamentalist whack-jobs, but I don't think even they could pull that off.
Octuplets' Mom Wants $2 Million From Oprah, Media Deals
Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: looker001
Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: dainthomas
That's 14 kids per parent. That would be like that Billy Bob guy and his wife in Arkansas having 28 kids under 8 years old. They have it pretty together for fundamentalist whack-jobs, but I don't think even they could pull that off.
while i agree its nuts. until there is justification there is NO reason to take them away.
though i suspect in time there will be a real reason to do it. the lady just does not seem right in the head to take care of that many kids. hell if it was not for her parents she couldnt take care of herself.
Let see current justification.
a)She has no job
b)She has does not have her own place(she lives with her parents)
3)She already got 6 kids and all of them are under 10
4)She gave birth to 8 additional kids
5)No father exist(well not in the picture)
Do you need more justifications?
A) so? long as the kids have a roof over there head and food on the table its good.
b) again so? i know a few family's that live with there parents.
c) so? refear to A and B
d) again so? should the duggers have the children taken away? they have 18 children.
e) while it sucks. so?
yes. i need a LEGAL reason to take the kids away. so far there is none.
Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: looker001Please tell me how it's physical possible for her to take care of 14 kids all by her self. Grandfather is contractor in iraq. Grandmother stated she will not help once she is back from hospital. Basically screw legal reasons and take kids away.
Duggers are totally different family. They had kids over 18 years and were able to set up so oldest being able to watch the youngest. Also, father is in the picture that works.
i don't see how this is hard to understand. UNTIL there is something done NOT just what you THINK might happen there is NO LEGAL reason to take the kids.
I am willing to bet in time the kids are taken. BUT so far as of NOW there is no reason. you can' tjust take kids away from parents because of they may not get the care you think they should. there has to be PROOF of neglect or abuse.
just because there is no father and the moter has other kids to take care of is not enough.
Originally posted by: SMOGZINN
Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: looker001
Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: dainthomas
That's 14 kids per parent. That would be like that Billy Bob guy and his wife in Arkansas having 28 kids under 8 years old. They have it pretty together for fundamentalist whack-jobs, but I don't think even they could pull that off.
while i agree its nuts. until there is justification there is NO reason to take them away.
though i suspect in time there will be a real reason to do it. the lady just does not seem right in the head to take care of that many kids. hell if it was not for her parents she couldnt take care of herself.
Let see current justification.
a)She has no job
b)She has does not have her own place(she lives with her parents)
3)She already got 6 kids and all of them are under 10
4)She gave birth to 8 additional kids
5)No father exist(well not in the picture)
Do you need more justifications?
A) so? long as the kids have a roof over there head and food on the table its good.
b) again so? i know a few family's that live with there parents.
c) so? refear to A and B
d) again so? should the duggers have the children taken away? they have 18 children.
e) while it sucks. so?
yes. i need a LEGAL reason to take the kids away. so far there is none.
But how will she give them each:
-Their own bedroom (with exceptions unless you live in an extremely expensive city).
-A reliable car at age 16 (assuming the child can be trusted with it)
-A state college education
-In this modern age I think every kid deserves a computer, not for gaming but just enough to do homework.
That each kid is owed
Originally posted by: WaTaGuMp
Bottom line is she CANT financially afford 14 kids, even if she got some multi million dollar book or TV deal, the amount of money needed to give those kids what they need is staggering.
Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: WaTaGuMp
Bottom line is she CANT financially afford 14 kids, even if she got some multi million dollar book or TV deal, the amount of money needed to give those kids what they need is staggering.
and $2million (unless she blows it on more kids or lip surgery) is far more then enough.
though..knowing her past she is going to blow it.
Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: WaTaGuMp
Bottom line is she CANT financially afford 14 kids, even if she got some multi million dollar book or TV deal, the amount of money needed to give those kids what they need is staggering.
and $2million (unless she blows it on more kids or lip surgery) is far more then enough.
though..knowing her past she is going to blow it.
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Originally posted by: freesia39
Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: WaTaGuMp
Bottom line is she CANT financially afford 14 kids, even if she got some multi million dollar book or TV deal, the amount of money needed to give those kids what they need is staggering.
and $2million (unless she blows it on more kids or lip surgery) is far more then enough.
though..knowing her past she is going to blow it.
It's not. She lives in CA, she needs a new specially equipped car, she HAS to hire some help, clothing, food, etc. We haven't even come to the discussion of a college education.
I mean her doctor bills alone, if she actually has to pay them, will probably be a million, for the c section, the small army that was there, and the NICU care for the preemies x 8. Since she hasn't worked in an eternity, who knows what insurance she has, and now those kids probably all qualify for MediCal. I PAY FOR THAT AS A FRICKIN CA TAX PAYER. So do you as a federal tax payer!
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Medi-Cal is California's Medicaid program. This is a public health insurance program which provides needed health care services for low-income individuals including families with children, seniors, persons with disabilities, foster care, pregnant women, and low income people with specific diseases such as tuberculosis, breast cancer or HIV/AIDS. Medi-Cal is financed equally by the State and federal government.
Originally posted by: Nightfall
Well, it looks like she won't be able to pay for the kids.
http://www.cnn.com/2009/US/02/06/octuplets.mom/
She has no source of income. Thats just crazy. Why have that many if you can't care for them properly?
Originally posted by: acegazda
There was a case in i think it was iowa... the mcoy septuplets. This woman had 7 kids and got all kinds of freebies from it, but she was married. This woman is not married, lives with her parents... it's all about public image. Eventually, reporters will make such a scene about her unfortunate state that she'll get the freebies and probably gov't money too.
Originally posted by: acegazda
There was a case in i think it was iowa... the mcoy septuplets. This woman had 7 kids and got all kinds of freebies from it, but she was married. This woman is not married, lives with her parents... it's all about public image. Eventually, reporters will make such a scene about her unfortunate state that she'll get the freebies and probably gov't money too.
http://www.radaronline.com/exc...nadyas-not-capable.phpGrandma Blasts Octuplet Mom: "Nadya's Not Capable"
"The truth is Nadya's not capable of raising 14 children."
The mother of the woman who gave birth to octuplets recently is speaking exclusively to RadarOnline.com and says her daughter's actions are "unconscionable."
All of Nadya Suleman's children have been conceived with in vitro fertilization.
The comments from Nadya's mother Angela are adding fuel to the growing controversy that has already sparked an investigation by the California Medical Board into the circumstances surrounding implantation of six embryos into a woman with six children.
When Nadya, 33, decided to be implanted with multiple embryos, Angela was stunned. She told RadarOnline.com: "I was very upset. She already has six beautiful children, why would she do this?
"To have them all is unconscionable to me. She really really has no idea what she's doing to her children and to me."
Nadya lives with Angela, a retired teacher, and Angela says Nadya contributes no money to the support of her own children. Eight people - soon to be 16 - are cramped into a small three-bedroom house and fed in shifts.
RadarOnline.com obtained exclusive photos inside the house, photos that are bound to raise more questions about Nadya's ability to care for so many children and a RadarOnline.com reporter described the interior as "filthy", with food on the walls.
"How she's going to cope, I don't know," Angela told RadarOnline.com about her daughter. "I'm really tired of taking care of the six children and need her to think about how she'll provide for all these children."
Angela told RadarOnline.com that Nadya turned her boyfriend into a sperm donor for all 14 kids, but refused to marry him. "He was in love with her and wanted to marry her," said Angela. "But Nadya wanted to have children on her own."
Nadya was so determined to have children, she first became pregnant at 16, Angela told RadarOnline.com. She miscarried, said Angela, and discovered she had blocked fallopian tubes.
Angela said that she and Nadya's father, Ed, begged one doctor not to implant any more embryos in Nadya, who already had six children. But Nadya found another doctor to implant six embryos, and two split, resulting in eight more babies. That doctor's decision to perform the in vitro has left the octuplets grandmother furious. "I'm really angry about that," she told RadarOnline.com.
Angela also voiced her anger over Nadya's claim she was raised in a dysfunctional family and was lonely as a child. "We raised her in a loving family and her father always spoiled her," Angela said.
"The truth is that Nadya hasn't worked since she started having her children," Angela, charged, "while Ed and I battled to pay her bills.
"Nadya promised to help me with the bills, but she never has. I lost a house because of it and now I'm struggling to look after her six. We had to put in bunk beds, feed them in shifts and there's children's clothing piled all over the house."
Angela told RadarOnline.com that she wasn't at the octuplets' birth because she was looking after the other six children. "But I saw the octuplets when they were two days old. They were so tiny and fragile, with bright purple skin, I was afraid to touch them but they're all doing well.
"Nadya has given them all Biblical names. Seven of them are dark-haired, but one, Noah, shows my side of the family. He looked so cute with his purple skin and bright yellow hair."