#OccupyWallstreet

[spidey07]

Shut up Spidey. The only thing weaker than your connection with reality is your reading comprehension. Your straw man is so ridiculous it doesn't even warrant mockery.

You're the one who said there's a conspiracy going on.

 

[palehorse]

http://slog.thestranger.com/slog/ar...ith-pepper-spray-by-spd-reportedly-miscarries

Pregnant woman peppersprayed at #occupy seattle miscarries baby.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3F1ItGFF9sQ&feature=channel_video_title

This is her shortly before finding out that she's not going to be a mother anymore. Scott Peterson anyone?

http://itsallgone.tumblr.com/post/13154020857/i-lost-a-child-to-the-occupy-movement

Here's a blog post from today of another woman claiming she lost her baby 8 months in.

IMO, if they can successfully connect the protest incidents with the miscarriages, perhaps these women should be charged with criminally negligent homicide or negligent endangerment of a child...

 

[monovillage]

Oh there is plenty going on from both sides. Including you actually.

I feel bad for anyone who lost their child peacefully protesting though. The police department better lawyer up.

If i were the police officers involved and their union reps i'd be filing a lawsuit just as fast as I could, if any of the story can be disproved i'd look into prosecution.

 

[fskimospy]

Answer these questions concerning the use of pepper spray in Seattle:

Did the Police not provide ample warnings that pepper spray was going to be used?

Did the Police not give the protestors ample time to disperse and get out of the street they were blocking prior to deploying pepper spray?

I think the protestors thought the Police were bluffing and they lost when the Police deployed the pepper spray. I also believe the same is true at UC Davis due to the fact there's no video recordings that were taken for minutes prior to the use of pepper spray.

Hey guys, it's ok to assault sitting, nonthreatening, nonviolent protesters with chemical agents so long as you tell them you're going to do it first.

 

[fskimospy]

If i were the police officers involved and their union reps i'd be filing a lawsuit just as fast as I could, if any of the story can be disproved i'd look into prosecution.

lol. prosecution for what?

 

[Ninjahedge]

Yes it is, but as soon as someone breaks the law they cease to be non-violent.

Wrong.

You made too broad an assertion there. You now grouped in finance with rape.

Violent = hitting/hurting someone or some thing. You are making stuff up when you link obstructionism (passive) with violent crime.

 

[HendrixFan]

In the case of numerous protesters breaking the law then repeatedly breaking the law again to ignore lawful commands by the police, then yes, they stop being non-violent. You and others may argue that jay-walking or spitting on a sidewalk isn't violent, but you're avoiding the reality of the situation.

Failure to disperse isn't violent. To suggest otherwise goes beyond foolish.

 

[Ninjahedge]

I believe you're absolutely wrong and that corporations / investors will continue to do what they've always done -- they'll completely ignore you.

They will ignore until their investments start suffering. Bad PR is just that, kind of reminds me a bit of Ann Rand.....

You expect businesses to self-regulate before the Government does so itself? LOL! Good luck with that...

You mean like the Motion Picture Association and their ratings? Yeah, like they would ever self-regulate to prevent kids from seeing violence so the state would not do it for them.....

/rolleyes

Offers whiskey

 

[monovillage]

Wrong.

You made too broad an assertion there. You now grouped in finance with rape.

Violent = hitting/hurting someone or some thing. You are making stuff up when you link obstructionism (passive) with violent crime.

I was on topic.

 

[Londo_Jowo]

Hey guys, it's ok to assault sitting, nonthreatening, nonviolent protesters with chemical agents so long as you tell them you're going to do it first.

Maybe they should use bulldozers to clear the road instead.

 

[fskimospy]

In the case of numerous protesters breaking the law then repeatedly breaking the law again to ignore lawful commands by the police, then yes, they stop being non-violent. You and others may argue that jay-walking or spitting on a sidewalk isn't violent, but you're avoiding the reality of the situation.

On what grounds, legal or otherwise are you basing your assertion that ignoring police commands makes someone violent?

 

[HendrixFan]

Maybe they should use bulldozers to clear the road instead.

Or machine guns, AMIRITE?

 

[Ninjahedge]

In the case of numerous protesters breaking the law then repeatedly breaking the law again to ignore lawful commands by the police, then yes, they stop being non-violent.

No, they don't.

You and others may argue that jay-walking or [removed spit. Nobody said this] isn't violent, but you're avoiding the reality of the situation.

No, you are. You are attaching POTENTIAL situations, "what if"s to something that has not happened.

"IF the protesters keep going they COULD get violent" does not equate to "If the protesters keep going they WILL...."

 

[fskimospy]

Maybe they should use bulldozers to clear the road instead.

Yes, instead of assaulting peaceful, nonviolent, sitting protesters with chemical agents, they should attempt to murder them with heavy construction equipment.

What is wrong with you people.

 

[Ninjahedge]

Nice irrelevant dodge to the topic in discussion.

Actually, that was a direct reply to your statement.

If you are saying he is dodging, buy logical association, you are saying YOU were dodging.

I really do not think you intended to say that about yourself. You better apologize or you might get upset at yourself!!! 😉

 

[Londo_Jowo]

What is wrong with people who feel their rights trump everyone else's rights?

 

[monovillage]

lol. prosecution for what?

If no police report was ever filled out, then there may be no grounds for criminal prosecution, but as a union rep i'd certainly look into slander and libel.

 

[Ninjahedge]

IMO, if they can successfully connect the protest incidents with the miscarriages, perhaps these women should be charged with criminally negligent homicide or negligent endangerment of a child...

No.

Maybe the cop should be charged for running an illegal abortion clinic?

You want to play absurd superlatives?

 

[monovillage]

Actually, that was a direct reply to your statement.

If you are saying he is dodging, buy logical association, you are saying YOU were dodging.

I really do not think you intended to say that about yourself. You better apologize or you might get upset at yourself!!! 😉

I disagree ninja, it is a crime, and it ends their claim of non-violence. You and others may think it's OK, knock yourselves out.

 

[Ninjahedge]

I was on topic.

I never said you weren't.

I said your assertion and your broad connotation and classification of crime was incorrect.

Again you are trying to play hardball with someone who is rather a stickler when it comes to grammar.

You could be on fire and that would still not make your statement any more correct, nor would I contest your claim to flame.

 

[fskimospy]

If no police report was ever filled out, then there may be no grounds for criminal prosecution, but as a union rep i'd certainly look into slander and libel.

Good luck to them on that one, lol.

 

[monovillage]

I never said you weren't.

I said your assertion and your broad connotation and classification of crime was incorrect.

Again you are trying to play hardball with someone who is rather a stickler when it comes to grammar.

You could be on fire and that would still not make your statement any more correct, nor would I contest your claim to flame.

Yawn

 

[PokerGuy]

Except for police using unnecessary force to break up a peaceful protest

Unnecessary according to whom?

Exactly. This isn't a riot.

If you break the law, peaceful or not, you can expect the police to take measures to uphold the law. She should not have put herself in that position, it's 100% her fault.

 

[Ninjahedge]

I disagree ninja, it is a crime, and it ends their claim of non-violence. You and others may think it's OK, knock yourselves out.

You can disagree if you want. that still does not change the definition of it.

You can disagree and say that oranges are not a fruit, but people will still look at you funny when you say so.

 

[Ninjahedge]

Yawn

Exactly.

You got nothing.