#OccupyWallstreet

[ComradeBeck]

Coming from the guy that immediately paints anyone who dares to have a differing opinion as a talk radio loon.

Ever looked around at the folks who populate this forum> That is a good part of P&N in a nutshell, should we mince words because your feelings get hurt?

Try gathering a logical argument not based off of strawmen and people would respect your opinions more, or just be laughed at by rational people. This is how a free society deals with radical morons. Get out some?

 

[fskimospy]

That's 1 from the left side. Isn't the President term limited to 2 terms? Who was the corrupt President that made it necessary to pass term limits?

There was no corrupt president that made it necessary to pass term limits.

Who cares if the presidency has them? I'm talking from a practical viewpoint. It would weaken the legislature, and I don't want that.

 

[Bowfinger]

The People already did wake up, that's the Tea Party. And we DID replace a bunch of people and took control of congress and the republicans WILL take control of the Senate and Presidency because they are the biggest source of the problem as they've pushed Obama's far left policies.

See you in November liberal, see you there. We The People are MUCH more motivated than a bunch of communist fucks breaking the law and believing property, money and capital that is not theirs belongs to them. The movement is about as far left as you can get and with only about 20% of Americans identifying as socialist you don't have the numbers to defeat Real Americans. Useful idiots are still useful but they are still idiots, sounds like you've bought the propaganda hook line and sinker, a true believer. Americans want nothing to do with your communist revolution, nothing.

I still very happy they are getting attention though, it shows the true beliefs of the left, what they really desire so please keep it up! Nobody is scared of these kids and their marxist sympathizers, we're all laughing at them.

It will show to be a very critical error by the democrats and Obama supporting these extreme left views.

I know your delusions are far too strong for trivialities like facts and truth to challenge them, but the Tea Party is largely a rubber stamp for the corrupt status quo. Not surprising since they are an AstroTurf diversion by the corrupt status quo. Further, OWS has far greater public approval than the Tea Party. To whatever extent you once had a right to bleat about We, the People, you lost it long ago as more Americans realized what a fraud you are. We'll have to wait 12 months to see if that translates into anything at the ballot box.

By the way, did you ever show the integrity to acknowledge your blatant lie about the salary amounts OWS did NOT endorse? Of course not, because you are fundamentally a dishonest, hypocritical, deranged loon who lives in an alternate reality. Get help.

/crickets ?

Spidey, this is but one of countless examples of you running away when presented with the reality of your own ignorance and dishonesty. You have to learn to face such unpleasant realities with integrity, to respond directly, honestly, and with open acknowledgement that you were wrong. Until you grow up enough to do that, you will continue to be nothing but the butt of P&N jokes.

I actually feel a bit sorry for you. You are so far beyond the fringe. The right shuns you and everyone else mocks you. You sincerely need help.

 

[davmat787]

Ever looked around at the folks who populate this forum> That is a good part of P&N in a nutshell, should we mince words because your feelings get hurt?

Try gathering a logical argument not based off of strawmen and people would respect your opinions more, or just be laughed at by rational people. This is how a free society deals with radical morons. Get out some?

WTF are you talking about? You are impossible to have a discussion with. And don't flatter yourself, my feelings are not hurt by some pixels on an LCD and the photons created by it.

 

[palehorse]

Ever looked around at the folks who populate this forum> That is a good part of P&N in a nutshell, should we mince words because your feelings get hurt?

Try gathering a logical argument not based off of strawmen and people would respect your opinions more, or just be laughed at by rational people. This is how a free society deals with radical morons. Get out some?

What are you guys doing to rid OWS of it's own overabundance of "radical morons"? Just curious...

 

[EagleKeeper]

Any Psych majors who can help me out here? What do you call a psychosis where you insist anything you believe is automatically fact? Or is this really just another case where Sir CAD can't comprehend English?

You do not need to be a Psych major.

Just look at any of the rabid left or right perps here.

Many believe the excrement that they spout; even though it has no standing in the real world ; just in their rose colored vision

 

[ComradeBeck]

What are you guys doing to rid OWS of it's own overabundance of "radical morons"? Just curious...

I will concede the point that I do not agree with everyone there, and I have tried to be the moderate in heated situations with people blaming cops unnecessarily, but really these are mostly a few kids. I have a bit more patience with a bright and curious and questioning 19 year old learning about life then a bunch of obviously bitter retirees who are radically aligned with a criminal element through their own hard headed partisanship.

The geriatric conservative crowd should either join up OWS if they want one last hurrah to help the US or grow old and bitter and alone wondering why everyone thinks they are isolated losers and get the hell out of the way. The Tea Party crowd shows they are not responsible enough to make informed decisions about politics without buying into big industry bullshit.

Even kids nowadays know better than to not believe everything from the Tee-Vee or internet. Shame.

The baby boomer generation -"We will live by our TV set mentality and they shall die by it." March on brave soldiers of the banal glow of mass media. Your time is short in history, like the cold-war era TV tube technology that raised you to become braindead morons.

 

[Bowfinger]

You do not need to be a Psych major.

Just look at any of the rabid left or right perps hear.

Many believe the excrement that that spout; even though it has no standing in the real world ; just in their rose colored vision

Point taken for sure, but Cad takes it a step beyond that ... IMO. Most people may start by asserting something subjective as fact, but if challenged will acknowledge it's their opinion, or at least dodge the challenge a bit and offer something supporting the opinion. Cad, on the other hand, simply denies it's an opinion. If he believes it, it is FACT, case closed. That seems a bit mentally abnormal to me.

 

[davmat787]

You do not need to be a Psych major.

Just look at any of the rabid left or right perps hear.

Many believe the excrement that that spout; even though it has no standing in the real world ; just in their rose colored vision

Agreed, it is a symptom of hard core partisanship, whether it be right or left, D or R. That someone would think any one party or ideology is always right or always wrong just seems braindead to me. IMO, this partisan BS will be a major part of our undoing.

 

[monovillage]

I think there are valid issues with term limits, as Eskimospy points out, for example. Nonetheless, I tend to agree with you. Term limits are not ideal, but what we have now is a disaster for democracy. Much of that is due to professional politicians, dedicated to a lifetime of serving the special interests who've bought them. I think money in politics is the real root cause, but professional politicians certainly aggravate the problem.

Thanks for the replies from you and Eskimospy.

 

[michal1980]

Only one blathering on about socialism is you and your defense of the top 1%'s corporate socialism.

You are a mentally challenged moron; thus a easily led tool. Congrats!

you keep talking about socalism there comrade

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Point taken for sure, but Cad takes it a step beyond that ... IMO. Most people may start by asserting something subjective as fact, but if challenged will acknowledge it's their opinion, or at least dodge the challenge a bit and offer something supporting the opinion. Cad, on the other hand, simply denies it's an opinion. If he believes it, it is FACT, case closed. That seems a bit mentally abnormal to me.

What's abnormal is you not realizing that my comment on yours opinion was opinion - the part about you WISH. The FACT comes in where the groups message comes into play. It is FACT that this OWS movement is not what you wish it was or came from. Denying that is naive and abnormal.

 

[ComradeBeck]

you keep talking about socalism there comrade

The only Socialism on the rise in this country is the Socialism for the rich.

And you guys are being played like a bunch of Bolshevik fools in 1917. US corporate style.

 

[Patranus]

The only Socialism on the rise in this country is the Socialism for the rich.

And you guys are being played like a bunch of Bolshevik fools in 1917. US corporate style.

The 1% make 20% of the AGI and pay 40% of the taxes.

Socialism for the "rich"....right.

 

[theeedude]

The 1% make 20% of the AGI and pay 40% of the taxes.

Socialism for the "rich"....right.

 

[Patranus]

You are looking at 2 different things.
INCOME isn't the something as WEALTH.

Anyways, so what? There are a lot of people who drop out of high school or have a kid out of wedlock. They usually end up poor because of their stupid decisions. This has a very large impact on the wealth distribution.

 

[theeedude]

You are looking at 2 different things.
INCOME isn't the something as WEALTH.

Anyways, so what? There are a lot of people who drop out of high school or have a kid out of wedlock. They usually end up poor because of their stupid decisions. This has a very large impact on the wealth distribution.

Wall Street bailouts went to preserve that wealth, with taxpayer money. Socialism for the rich.

 

[palehorse]

Agreed, it is a symptom of hard core partisanship, whether it be right or left, D or R. That someone would think any one party or ideology is always right or always wrong just seems braindead to me. IMO, this partisan BS will be a major part of our undoing.

Well said!

 

[Patranus]

Agreed, it is a symptom of hard core partisanship, whether it be right or left, D or R. That someone would think any one party or ideology is always right or always wrong just seems braindead to me. IMO, this partisan BS will be a major part of our undoing.

You fail to realize that partisanship is brought about by "progressive" expansion of the federal government.

"progressivism" divides this country by trying to force one solution to wedge issues on every state.

Take UHC. Instead of implementing it on a state by state basis, they "progressives" continue to push things like Obamacare (stepping stone to UHC) at the federal level.

Nothing should stop a state like CA from implementing UHC but that also means that nothing should stop TX from implementing whatever works for them

 

[OneOfTheseDays]

Segregation should remain a states rights issue.

 

[ComradeBeck]

You fail to realize that partisanship is brought about by "progressive" expansion of the federal government.

There is no expansion of the federal government unless you mean the Defense department, the civil sector is smaller then it has been since the 1930s when you factor in our population.

Why is such a simple concept as: Government should not be "big" or "small" it needs to be the size to serve our country, no more no less.

Why must everything be in black and white terms? Oh yeah, because you have a deficit in critical thinking skills.

This is why you are stupid enough to buy into straw-men like: Progressives want to grow gubbermunt!

When no one is about that shit in reality. Look around knucklehead, you have been played.

 

[Patranus]

Segregation should remain a states rights issue.

Pretty sure the federal government changed the constitution through its built in process to deal with that.

 

[davmat787]

There is no expansion of the federal government unless you mean the Defense department, the civil sector is smaller then it has been since the 1930s when you factor in our population.

Why is such a simple concept as: Government should not be "big" or "small" it needs to be the size to serve our country, no more no less.

Why must everything be in black and white terms? Oh yeah, because you have a deficit in critical thinking skills.

This is why you are stupid enough to buy into straw-men like: Progressives want to grow gubbermunt!

When no one is about that shit in reality. Look around knucklehead, you have been played.

You just simply cannot make a post without insulting the person you are responding to. A most effective and mature communication and debate technique.

 

[wuliheron]

You just simply cannot make a post without insulting the person you are responding to. A most effective and mature communication and debate technique.

You expect maturity and effective communications on this bulletin board? Who is being immature and unreasonable? Not too long ago a bunch of assholes ripped off the American people, destroyed the world economy in the process, and convinced some 60% of the american public that their president might not be a citizen. I think you need to lower your standards a little or find another bulletin board.

 

[ComradeBeck]

You just simply cannot make a post without insulting the person you are responding to. A most effective and mature communication and debate technique.

How are you supposed to respond to thick headed people who basically just want to get your goat, whatever, these folks are mainly just trolling and slinging mud also, but not even trying to discuss things. We both know this. If people ask relevant questions or make insightful comments I drop the smartass bit. Respond with nonsense and yeah, I will say stuff like you have a deficit in critical thinking.

If I was trolling I would just call you guys a bunch of fascists, which some are imo honestly. (and have admitted it in here)

But yeah, I am a bit of a "firebrand lefty", if people take my shit personal then send me a message. In the end it is just politics, a rather distasteful and dirty hobby.