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OccupyOakland Thugs Gets Violent - Force Police Action

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So no one realizes the very people starting the riots are NOT members of OWS. But in fact planted to start the violence. Their goal is to focus false blame onto the OWS crowd. OWS protesters. Create violence when there is none.
This is an old tactic, most recently used by tea baggers and republicans to disrupt democratic fund raisers and democratic town meetings.
Geesh... People have forgot about all that so soon? How they play dirty?
These tactics are typical of the tea baggers. No doubt tea bagger organized. With a little prompting by their local GOP.
They can try, but these tea bagger planted rioters will fail...
OWS is here to stay for a long long (long) time.
And will grow larger day by day. Get a clue....
 
Its maybe 60 people who waited until dark to set a few trash cans on fire and break some windows. There were 7,000 people who showed up to close down the port alone. I'd take that over pigs fracturing peoples' skulls and pepper spraying them for sitting on the ground.
 
wuliheron said:
Its maybe 60 people who waited until dark to set a few trash cans on fire and break some windows. There were 7,000 people who showed up to close down the port alone. I'd take that over pigs fracturing peoples' skulls and pepper spraying them for sitting on the ground.
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It was 500+ crowd that broke into that nonprofit building, have screen caps to prove it.
 
sportage said:
So no one realizes the very people starting the riots are NOT members of OWS. But in fact planted to start the violence. Their goal is to focus false blame onto the OWS crowd. OWS protesters. Create violence when there is none.
This is an old tactic, most recently used by tea baggers and republicans to disrupt democratic fund raisers and democratic town meetings.
Geesh... People have forgot about all that so soon? How they play dirty?
These tactics are typical of the tea baggers. No doubt tea bagger organized. With a little prompting by their local GOP.
They can try, but these tea bagger planted rioters will fail...
OWS is here to stay for a long long (long) time.
And will grow larger day by day. Get a clue....
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And all the g8 protesters in the same black hoodies are paid by the corporations to break corporate property to build support for the corporations...
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sportage said:
So no one realizes the very people starting the riots are NOT members of OWS. But in fact planted to start the violence. Their goal is to focus false blame onto the OWS crowd. OWS protesters. Create violence when there is none.
This is an old tactic, most recently used by tea baggers and republicans to disrupt democratic fund raisers and democratic town meetings.
Geesh... People have forgot about all that so soon? How they play dirty?
These tactics are typical of the tea baggers. No doubt tea bagger organized. With a little prompting by their local GOP.
They can try, but these tea bagger planted rioters will fail...
OWS is here to stay for a long long (long) time.
And will grow larger day by day. Get a clue....
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So it was the super secret agent Tea Party ninjas that caused all the trouble in Oakland? Tin foil hat time.
 
LunarRay said:
😱

I do remember the days of the Vietnam opposition movement and it seems it depends on what your view is... We can justify our positions on most anything. The question is, I guess: How does what the OWS are trying to effect affect you or me... Not the methods or means but, rather, the underlying notion. I think that is the salient bit.
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The underlying notions is a combination of communism and anarchy and such notions definitely impacts us.
 
if you're violent, you're going to have negative things happen to you, if you break the law, you'll have negative things happen to you. that said, i wasn't there i don't know what happened. I hope those responsible are punished, and those unjustly punished are apologized to.
 
Patranus said:
You have it backwards.
The OWS movement IS the group of people hell bent on breaking shit.
It is the minority who believes the movement is something it isn't.

All you have to do is look at the signs and listen to what these people actually say to understand their real motives.
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Then why do the videos show the majority of the OWS crowd disagreeing with and even preventing property damage by putting themselves in harms way?

If the majority of the OWS movement was hell bent on breaking shit you would see a metric fuckton of more broken shit today. It is rather obvious just from the amount of damage done that a very small portion of the OWS crowd was destroying property and being violent.

Using your standards the entirety of the Tea Party is a bunch of drug dealers or drug dealer supporters.
 
sportage said:
So no one realizes the very people starting the riots are NOT members of OWS. But in fact planted to start the violence. Their goal is to focus false blame onto the OWS crowd. OWS protesters. Create violence when there is none.
This is an old tactic, most recently used by tea baggers and republicans to disrupt democratic fund raisers and democratic town meetings.
Geesh... People have forgot about all that so soon? How they play dirty?
These tactics are typical of the tea baggers. No doubt tea bagger organized. With a little prompting by their local GOP.
They can try, but these tea bagger planted rioters will fail...
OWS is here to stay for a long long (long) time.
And will grow larger day by day. Get a clue....
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I wouldn't say that they are plants without evidence to back that up but I have seen reports of some liberation something group handing out flyers that basically called the non-violent majority sheep and said that they (liberation whatever group) intended on being violent.
 
monovillage said:
So it was the super secret agent Tea Party ninjas that caused all the trouble in Oakland? Tin foil hat time.
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Well you make it sound like a rediculous idea.

But fact of the matter is that undercover cops have been documented and there is audio of them describing how they can use undercovers to "move protesters" and " Get them to do what the police want them to do".

The practice of using agent provocateurs to undermine protests isn't tin foil hat or new. It's really quite simple. Peaceful protest. Send a couple of your people into the crowd in plane clothes to throw rocks and stuff at you in order to provoke the use gas, flashbangs and rubber bullets.

And sonic weapons if you really want to go tin foil hat. People are speculating that they are using sonic weapons which can cause internal damage and be used for crowd control.
 
Originally Posted by LunarRay
I do remember the days of the Vietnam opposition movement and it seems it depends on what your view is...
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It would be fun to have been a part of the anti vietnam war movement. Because we have all of the documents today to show that we went to war over completely fabricated events. Just like Iraq.
 
Darwin333 said:
Communism and anarchy are polar opposites. Pick one and run with it but you can't use both.
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I understand that but the OWS crowd doesn't seem to realize that.
All you have to do is look at the signs and listen to what the people are saying (not what you want to hear) to see what these people want.
 
I very much oppose anarchists, but we should be clear that anarchists do not necessarily support property damage, that's only some of them.
 
Patranus said:
I understand that but the OWS crowd doesn't seem to realize that.
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No you don't, you fuckwit.

You're a typical teabagger who wants to label those opposed to your ideas by a convenient "evil moniker". So you throw words out; Communist, Socialist, Fascist, Anarchist, whatever...it doesn't really matter, as long as *one* of them sticks.

You have no idea what the difference is, and don't care.
 
Patranus is the same guy who pages back defended using near deadly force against scott olsen and setting an explosion in his face while he was laying badly injured on the ground.

He probably also defends the pepper spraying in tulsa where the guy was already handcuffed and sitting on the ground. That was called for, right?
 
airdata said:
Patranus is the same guy who pages back defended using near deadly force against scott olsen and setting an explosion in his face while he was laying badly injured on the ground.

He probably also defends the pepper spraying in tulsa where the guy was already handcuffed and sitting on the ground. That was called for, right?
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And he's the same type of guy that given the order would pump round after round of live ammunition into the crowds of protestors.

He is the american Taliban.
 
Patranus said:
The underlying notions is a combination of communism and anarchy and such notions definitely impacts us.
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I'd not think it easy to accomplish both communism and anarchy at the same time in the same place.
IF Greed is a motivator when does it sate its need to be greedy? Do you think the Bankers could have ceased their actions in time to save the many from their actions or is it true that to earn a million demands earning multiple millions off the 'backs' of the rest?

Gandhi once (At least) said, “Even the most despotic government cannot stand except for the consent of the governed.... Immediately the subject ceases to fear the despotic force, his power is gone.” That seems a reasonable proposition, to me.
 
LOL

airdata said:
Patranus is the same guy who pages back defended using near deadly force against scott olsen and setting an explosion in his face while he was laying badly injured on the ground.

He probably also defends the pepper spraying in tulsa where the guy was already handcuffed and sitting on the ground. That was called for, right?
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JSt0rm said:
And he's the same type of guy that given the order would pump round after round of live ammunition into the crowds of protestors.

He is the american Taliban.
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Which one of you is this?

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airdata said:
Well you make it sound like a rediculous idea.

But fact of the matter is that undercover cops have been documented and there is audio of them describing how they can use undercovers to "move protesters" and " Get them to do what the police want them to do".

The practice of using agent provocateurs to undermine protests isn't tin foil hat or new. It's really quite simple. Peaceful protest. Send a couple of your people into the crowd in plane clothes to throw rocks and stuff at you in order to provoke the use gas, flashbangs and rubber bullets.

And sonic weapons if you really want to go tin foil hat. People are speculating that they are using sonic weapons which can cause internal damage and be used for crowd control.
Click to expand...

I was responding to sportage's post, this one

"So no one realizes the very people starting the riots are NOT members of OWS. But in fact planted to start the violence. Their goal is to focus false blame onto the OWS crowd. OWS protesters. Create violence when there is none.
This is an old tactic, most recently used by tea baggers and republicans to disrupt democratic fund raisers and democratic town meetings.
Geesh... People have forgot about all that so soon? How they play dirty?
These tactics are typical of the tea baggers. No doubt tea bagger organized. With a little prompting by their local GOP.
They can try, but these tea bagger planted rioters will fail...
OWS is here to stay for a long long (long) time.
And will grow larger day by day. Get a clue.... "

For him, it's tin foil hat time. Anyone who thinks that the local police, county sheriffs along with the F.B.I and Department of Homeland Security don't have agents and/or informers in every major *Occupy* gathering is truly naive.
 
Saw this picture out of OccupyOakland

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It explains everything you need to know about why these people are homeless/jobless/bankrupt/ect.
 
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