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OccupyDC Emails Show MSM, Dylan Ratigan, Working With Protesters To Craft Message

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http://bigjournalism.com/dloesch/20...gan-working-with-protesters-to-craft-message/

Big Journalism has learned that the Occupy Washington DC movement is working with well-known media members to craft its demands and messaging while these media members report on the movement. Someone has made the emails from the Occupy D.C. email distro public and searchable. The names in the list are a veritable who’s who in media.

Journolist 2.0 includes well known names such as MSNBC’s Dylan Ratigan, Rolling Stone’s Matt Tiabbi who both are actively participating; involvement from other listers such as Bill Moyers and Glenn Greenwald plus well-known radicals like Noam Chomsky, remains unclear. The list also includes a number of Occupy organizers, such as one of the Occupy Wall Street main organizers Kevin Zeese.

In these emails we see MSNBC’s Ratigan, hawking his book in the footnotes, instructing occupiers on how properly to present their demands and messages while simultaneously appearing on television reporting “objectively” on the story (when he’s not taking part in the protests himself as content.)

The full searchable Occupy DC list is available here. We’ve only begun to discover the full scope of MSM’s involvement and are still combing through the archives after the list was brought to our attention late last night. (If you find something interesting that we have missed, please leave us a note in the comments.)

So how long are we going to pretend that this is a “grassroots” uprising?

And how can the media continue to report on the occupy movement objectively when it’s part of it?

This should raise some eyebrows. The bolded is the principle question. To see the emails themselves, you'll have to click the link.

I'll consider the source sufficiently impugned, to save the time of the predictable responders.
 
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The Tea Party was funded by organization like Freedomworks (GOP pac run by Dick Army). They got emails on how to act up at town meetings and shout down Congressman, yet they claimed independance. A little more egregious then helping OWS craft their message (delivery not content).

Also Fox News was hosting Tea Party events
 
The Tea Party was funded by organization like Freedomworks (GOP pac run by Dick Army). They got emails on how to act up at town meetings and shout down Congressman, yet they claimed independance. A little more egregious then helping OWS craft their message (delivery not content).

Also Fox News was hosting Tea Party events

Gotta link?
 
The Tea Party was funded by organization like Freedomworks (GOP pac run by Dick Army). They got emails on how to act up at town meetings and shout down Congressman, yet they claimed independance. A little more egregious then helping OWS craft their message (delivery not content).

Also Fox News was hosting Tea Party events

Please do not expose dirty little secrets like this 😛
 
Whoa. Its like Fox and the Tea Party.

EDIT: Damn, I was beaten to the punch. BTW, Dylan used to work on CNBC.
 
http://bigjournalism.com/dloesch/20...gan-working-with-protesters-to-craft-message/



This should raise some eyebrows. The bolded is the principle question. To see the emails themselves, you'll have to click the link.

This is why you shouldn't read Andrew Breitbart's websites. Look at the names on that list. Dylan Ratigan and Matt Taibbi are political pundits long known to have very similar views to the OWS people. The only other thing that link has is the mere mention of the names of other... you guessed it... opinion people. The only exception to that is Bill Moyers, and the article itself admits that it has no evidence of his involvement. My question would be why you would think political pundits WOULDN'T be on those lists? Would you consider there to be a scandal if Sean Hannity is on a Tea Party mailing list? (he's probably on a bunch).

This is a common deception from Breitbart's sites, btw. They are simply not reputable sources.
 
http://bigjournalism.com/dloesch/20...gan-working-with-protesters-to-craft-message/



This should raise some eyebrows. The bolded is the principle question. To see the emails themselves, you'll have to click the link.

I'll consider the source sufficiently impugned, to save the time of the predictable responders.

So it's better to have an ambiguous message, then a craft focused one that people can understand and get behind. Look if OccupyWallStreet is going to make a difference, it needs to get a unified message out. If some of the same media that gave both Bush and Obama a free pass is helping them so be it. Not like this does not happen all the time.
 
This is why you shouldn't read Andrew Breitbart's websites. Look at the names on that list. Dylan Ratigan and Matt Taibbi are political pundits long known to have very similar views to the OWS people. The only other thing that link has is the mere mention of the names of other... you guessed it... opinion people. The only exception to that is Bill Moyers, and the article itself admits that it has no evidence of his involvement. My question would be why you would think political pundits WOULDN'T be on those lists? Would you consider there to be a scandal if Sean Hannity is on a Tea Party mailing list? (he's probably on a bunch).

This is a common deception from Breitbart's sites, btw. They are simply not reputable sources.

I'm not surprised to see Taibbi or Ratigan on it. I'll admit I posted this rather hastily.
 
Of course Dylan Ratigan is supporting this movement and trying to work to help it organize its agenda. Michael Moore is supporting it, Progressives politicians are.

Pretty much the whole progressive movement is supporting advocating for the agenda of some economic improvement against the bad practices by 'the 1%'.

This is how it should work. It's not just Ratigan, though he's helping lead with the web site getmoneyout.com to amend the constitution against money in campaigns.

Progressive talk show host Randi Rhodes is supporting him; probably every progressive media figure is supporting the protests.

Goldman Sachs, however, told its employees if they do, their careers are in danger.
 
Wait, wait, I'm shocked. Dimlib main street media in bed with the rabble rioters? But, I thought the MSM was not biased? Surely fine upstanding news outlets like MSNBC would not be involved in such things?
 
Pretty much the whole progressive movement is supporting advocating for the agenda of some economic improvement against the bad practices by 'the 1%'.

This is how it should work. It's not just Ratigan, though he's helping lead with the web site getmoneyout.com to amend the constitution against money in campaigns.

Goldman Sachs, however, told its employees if they do, their careers are in danger.

You have a link for the bolded comment above ?

Seriously, the OWS crowd appear to be a bunch of anarchists devoid of a clear message or purpose (other than the ridiculous wish list of radical demands like full debt forgiveness, open borders, $20/hr living wage, etc). I mean how can you take anyone seriously with demands like this totally out of touch with reality ?
 
You have a link for the bolded comment above ?

Seriously, the OWS crowd appear to be a bunch of anarchists devoid of a clear message or purpose (other than the ridiculous wish list of radical demands like full debt forgiveness, open borders, $20/hr living wage, etc). I mean how can you take anyone seriously with demands like this totally out of touch with reality ?

http://www.cnbc.com/id/44876867
 
Thanks -- missed that. Not much of a story though. And it's all hearsay anyway...not that I'd ever imagine Goldman making it a firm policy that employees should not agitate the protesters to say nothing of participating.

How would you expect them to do it, with a memo that would be a national scandal? It would be this way, as one Goldman Sachs employee called it, 'unofficially official'.
 
How would you expect them to do it, with a memo that would be a national scandal? It would be this way, as one Goldman Sachs employee called it, 'unofficially official'.

I guess my point is, we'll never know whether anyone at Goldman said 'stay away' or 'do not get involved'. So to suggest it is somehow 'unofficially official' policy is possible...but still a stretch.
 
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