Occam's Razor

[moshquerade]

anyone ever heard of this? i just did recently... very interesting.

Occam's Razor (also spelt Ockham's Razor), is a principle attributed to the 14th-century English logician and Franciscan friar, William of Ockham. It forms the basis of methodological reductionism, also called the principle of parsimony or law of economy.

In its simplest form, Occam's Razor states that one should make no more assumptions than needed. Put into everyday language, it says

The simplest explanation is the best.

When multiple explanations are available for a phenomenon, the simplest version is preferred. For example, a charred tree on the ground could be caused by a landing alien ship or a lightning strike. According to Occam's Razor, the lightning strike is the preferred explanation as it requires the fewest assumptions.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occam%27s_Razor

 

[Howard]

Yes.

 

[vi edit]

8th Grade Social Studies

 

[HeroOfPellinor]

I prefer Occam's Mach3.

 

[moshquerade]

Originally posted by: vi_edit
8th Grade Social Studies

i must've been absent

actually i don't think we talked of it.

 

[neutralizer]

Yes, somewhere. Maybe a movie.

 

[rh71]

I prefer Layman and his terms.

 

[Leper Messiah]

Originally posted by: moshquerade
anyone ever heard of this? i just did recently... very interesting.

Occam's Razor (also spelt Ockham's Razor), is a principle attributed to the 14th-century English logician and Franciscan friar, William of Ockham. It forms the basis of methodological reductionism, also called the principle of parsimony or law of economy.

In its simplest form, Occam's Razor states that one should make no more assumptions than needed. Put into everyday language, it says

The simplest explanation is the best.

When multiple explanations are available for a phenomenon, the simplest version is preferred. For example, a charred tree on the ground could be caused by a landing alien ship or a lightning strike. According to Occam's Razor, the lightning strike is the preferred explanation as it requires the fewest assumptions.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occam%27s_Razor

You just heard of this Wow. I learned about Occam's Razor in like 6th grade. thats basic logic type stuff.

*shrug* You learn something new everyday, I suppose.

 

[jman19]

Heard of this long ago, and many times over.

 

[Tates]

Spelt
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.
Spelt


Scientific classification
Kingdom: Plantae
Division: Magnoliophyta
Class: Liliopsida
Order: Poales
Family: Poaceae
Genus: Triticum
Species: T. spelta

Binomial name
Triticum spelta
L.
Spelt (Triticum spelta) is a species of wheat.

Spelt is considered to be a hybrid of emmer wheat einkorn wheat that originated in the Near East, where it was cultivated at least 3000 years ago. In the Middle Ages, it was cultivated in parts of Switzerland, Tyrol and Germany. Spelt was introduced to the United States in the 1890s. In the 20th century, spelt was virtually replaced by wheat, which produces higher yields. However, since spelt is rather more hardy than wheat and does not require fertilizers, the organic farming movement made it more popular again towards the end of the century.

Spelt contains about 62 percent carbohydrates, 8.8 percent fibre, 12 percent protein and 2.7 percent fat, as well as dietary minerals and vitamins, including silica. As it contains a high amount of gluten, it is suitable for baking. However, the gluten in spelt is different from that in normal wheat and therefore spelt can be consumed by some gluten-intolerant people.

In Germany, the unripe spelt grains are dried and eaten as Grünkern, which literally means green seed.

The Luxembourger surname "Speltz" is derived from this grain.

This grain is also called speltz or spelts in English.

Retrieved from "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spelt"

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

The problem with Occam is that it gives a preferred answer based on simplicity, not necessarily the correct one. Many base the correctness of an answer on if it passes this test.

I've learned that the Razor is at times a handy way to slit one's own throat.

 

[moshquerade]

Originally posted by: L3p3rM355i4h

Originally posted by: moshquerade
anyone ever heard of this? i just did recently... very interesting.

Occam's Razor (also spelt Ockham's Razor), is a principle attributed to the 14th-century English logician and Franciscan friar, William of Ockham. It forms the basis of methodological reductionism, also called the principle of parsimony or law of economy.

In its simplest form, Occam's Razor states that one should make no more assumptions than needed. Put into everyday language, it says

The simplest explanation is the best.

When multiple explanations are available for a phenomenon, the simplest version is preferred. For example, a charred tree on the ground could be caused by a landing alien ship or a lightning strike. According to Occam's Razor, the lightning strike is the preferred explanation as it requires the fewest assumptions.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occam%27s_Razor

You just heard of this Wow. I learned about Occam's Razor in like 6th grade. thats basic logic type stuff.

*shrug* You learn something new everyday, I suppose.

i should've made this a quiz. all you wiseackers remember everything.
actually i went to a Catholic School through 8th grade. there was no Occam's Razor there. i am sure of it.

 

[konichiwa]

I'm pretty sure I shave with Occam's razor...

 

[Leper Messiah]

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: L3p3rM355i4h

Originally posted by: moshquerade
anyone ever heard of this? i just did recently... very interesting.

Occam's Razor (also spelt Ockham's Razor), is a principle attributed to the 14th-century English logician and Franciscan friar, William of Ockham. It forms the basis of methodological reductionism, also called the principle of parsimony or law of economy.

In its simplest form, Occam's Razor states that one should make no more assumptions than needed. Put into everyday language, it says

The simplest explanation is the best.

When multiple explanations are available for a phenomenon, the simplest version is preferred. For example, a charred tree on the ground could be caused by a landing alien ship or a lightning strike. According to Occam's Razor, the lightning strike is the preferred explanation as it requires the fewest assumptions.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occam%27s_Razor

You just heard of this Wow. I learned about Occam's Razor in like 6th grade. thats basic logic type stuff.

*shrug* You learn something new everyday, I suppose.

i should've made this a quiz. all you wiseackers remember everything.
actually i went to a Catholic School through 8th grade. there was no Occam's Razor there. i am sure of it.

Well, duh. Relgion and logic dont exactly go together now do they...no college philosophy classes or anything? I rape my brother with occam's razor all the time (don't take out of context n00bs! ). It works really well against people who are habitual liars, since their lies tend to get more and more outlandish...

 

[moshquerade]

Originally posted by: konichiwa
I'm pretty sure I shave with Occam's razor...

that's simple enough

 

[KEV1N]

I always understood it to be: when there are multiple solutions to a problem, the solution with the fewest variables is most likely to be correct. Like, God created the universe. Only two variables there!!!!

 

[GagHalfrunt]

Originally posted by: Hayabusa Rider
The problem with Occam is that it gives a preferred answer based on simplicity, not necessarily the correct one. Many base the correctness of an answer on if it passes this test.

I've learned that the Razor is at times a handy way to slit one's own throat.

Occam's Razor gives no answer. Anyone using it to generate the simplest possible answer is using the theory badly. The principle of Occam's Razor is to start with the simplest explanation and test it. Many times it'll be right, when it isn't you move on to the 2nd simplest possible explanation and test it. Keep doing that and you'll hit the right answer sooner more often. The simplest explanation is right far more often than the most complicated, so you start there and work from simple to complex rather than the other way around. It's just a simple concept to save a lot of time.

 

[moshquerade]

Originally posted by: L3p3rM355i4h

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: L3p3rM355i4h

Originally posted by: moshquerade
anyone ever heard of this? i just did recently... very interesting.

Occam's Razor (also spelt Ockham's Razor), is a principle attributed to the 14th-century English logician and Franciscan friar, William of Ockham. It forms the basis of methodological reductionism, also called the principle of parsimony or law of economy.

In its simplest form, Occam's Razor states that one should make no more assumptions than needed. Put into everyday language, it says

The simplest explanation is the best.

When multiple explanations are available for a phenomenon, the simplest version is preferred. For example, a charred tree on the ground could be caused by a landing alien ship or a lightning strike. According to Occam's Razor, the lightning strike is the preferred explanation as it requires the fewest assumptions.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occam%27s_Razor

You just heard of this Wow. I learned about Occam's Razor in like 6th grade. thats basic logic type stuff.

*shrug* You learn something new everyday, I suppose.

i should've made this a quiz. all you wiseackers remember everything.
actually i went to a Catholic School through 8th grade. there was no Occam's Razor there. i am sure of it.

Well, duh. Relgion and logic dont exactly go together now do they...no college philosophy classes or anything? I rape my brother with occam's razor all the time (don't take out of context n00bs! ). It works really well against people who are habitual liars, since their lies tend to get more and more outlandish...

to me it applies the logic of less is more. using less words can get to the point less painfully versus rambling on.

 

[konichiwa]

But on a more serious note, you may now know of Occam's Razor but do you know why it's called a "Razor" as opposed to a theorem, law, etc?

<cue the Jeopardy music>

 

[moshquerade]

Originally posted by: L3p3rM355i4h

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: L3p3rM355i4h

Originally posted by: moshquerade
anyone ever heard of this? i just did recently... very interesting.

Occam's Razor (also spelt Ockham's Razor), is a principle attributed to the 14th-century English logician and Franciscan friar, William of Ockham. It forms the basis of methodological reductionism, also called the principle of parsimony or law of economy.

In its simplest form, Occam's Razor states that one should make no more assumptions than needed. Put into everyday language, it says

The simplest explanation is the best.

When multiple explanations are available for a phenomenon, the simplest version is preferred. For example, a charred tree on the ground could be caused by a landing alien ship or a lightning strike. According to Occam's Razor, the lightning strike is the preferred explanation as it requires the fewest assumptions.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occam%27s_Razor

You just heard of this Wow. I learned about Occam's Razor in like 6th grade. thats basic logic type stuff.

*shrug* You learn something new everyday, I suppose.

i should've made this a quiz. all you wiseackers remember everything.
actually i went to a Catholic School through 8th grade. there was no Occam's Razor there. i am sure of it.

Well, duh. Relgion and logic dont exactly go together now do they...no college philosophy classes or anything? I rape my brother with occam's razor all the time (don't take out of context n00bs! ). It works really well against people who are habitual liars, since their lies tend to get more and more outlandish...

nope, no philosophy classes either, science major

 

[Leper Messiah]

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: L3p3rM355i4h

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: L3p3rM355i4h

Originally posted by: moshquerade
anyone ever heard of this? i just did recently... very interesting.

Occam's Razor (also spelt Ockham's Razor), is a principle attributed to the 14th-century English logician and Franciscan friar, William of Ockham. It forms the basis of methodological reductionism, also called the principle of parsimony or law of economy.

In its simplest form, Occam's Razor states that one should make no more assumptions than needed. Put into everyday language, it says

The simplest explanation is the best.

When multiple explanations are available for a phenomenon, the simplest version is preferred. For example, a charred tree on the ground could be caused by a landing alien ship or a lightning strike. According to Occam's Razor, the lightning strike is the preferred explanation as it requires the fewest assumptions.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occam%27s_Razor

You just heard of this Wow. I learned about Occam's Razor in like 6th grade. thats basic logic type stuff.

*shrug* You learn something new everyday, I suppose.

i should've made this a quiz. all you wiseackers remember everything.
actually i went to a Catholic School through 8th grade. there was no Occam's Razor there. i am sure of it.

Well, duh. Relgion and logic dont exactly go together now do they...no college philosophy classes or anything? I rape my brother with occam's razor all the time (don't take out of context n00bs! ). It works really well against people who are habitual liars, since their lies tend to get more and more outlandish...

to me it applies the logic of less is more. using less words can get to the point less painfully versus rambling on.

Interesting way of looking at it...new perspectives teach us all.

*Bows to moshquerade*

 

[moshquerade]

Originally posted by: konichiwa
But on a more serious note, you may now know of Occam's Razor but do you know why it's called a "Razor" as opposed to a theorem, law, etc?

<cue the Jeopardy music>

cause it "cuts" to the chase?

 

[Leper Messiah]

I would say it has something to do with the fact that its "cuts" people's arguments apart.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Originally posted by: GagHalfrunt

Originally posted by: Hayabusa Rider
The problem with Occam is that it gives a preferred answer based on simplicity, not necessarily the correct one. Many base the correctness of an answer on if it passes this test.

I've learned that the Razor is at times a handy way to slit one's own throat.

Occam's Razor gives no answer. Anyone using it to generate the simplest possible answer is using the theory badly. The principle of Occam's Razor is to start with the simplest explanation and test it. Many times it'll be right, when it isn't you move on to the 2nd simplest possible explanation and test it. Keep doing that and you'll hit the right answer sooner more often. The simplest explanation is right far more often than the most complicated, so you start there and work from simple to complex rather than the other way around. It's just a simple concept to save a lot of time.

Literally true, however I believe you know what I mean. It can be a useful tool, but you are seeing it used in this thread to justify particular POVs.

 

[thehstrybean]

Originally posted by: neutralizer
Yes, somewhere. Maybe a movie.

Contact...Great movie...