• Guest, The rules for the P & N subforum have been updated to prohibit "ad hominem" or personal attacks against other posters. See the full details in the post "Politics and News Rules & Guidelines."

Ocasio-Cortez Wants to Spend $40T on Progressive Programs. Free Health Care for All?

Page 7 - Seeking answers? Join the AnandTech community: where nearly half-a-million members share solutions and discuss the latest tech.

ch33zw1z

Lifer
Nov 4, 2004
33,212
11,948
146
I heard liberal tears can cure heart disease, diabetes, and obesity. The southeast rejoices!
 

Hayabusa Rider

Admin Emeritus & Elite Member
Jan 26, 2000
50,872
4,213
126
One of the few topics that disallow rational examination and debate. I'll let people toss sticks in the bicycle spokes.
 

SlowSpyder

Lifer
Jan 12, 2005
17,305
998
126
This is the new general direction for the Democrats. Keep lowering the bar and making excuses for those that refuse to put effort in and better themselves then give all those people everything they need for free to buy their votes. Meanwhile the quality of our country as a whole continues to drop. Trump is EXACTLY what America needed, when we needed him.
 
  • Like
Reactions: blackangst1

blackangst1

Lifer
Feb 23, 2005
20,827
804
126
Im uncomfortable with the extremes on either side. Socialism is the direction the left seems to be going.

But who's gonna pay for it?
 

Commodus

Diamond Member
Oct 9, 2004
8,350
5,513
136
This is the new general direction for the Democrats. Keep lowering the bar and making excuses for those that refuse to put effort in and better themselves then give all those people everything they need for free to buy their votes. Meanwhile the quality of our country as a whole continues to drop. Trump is EXACTLY what America needed, when we needed him.
Your hero got wealthy mostly because of his daddy (and tax fraud), had no political experience, starred in a reality TV show, bragged about sexually assaulting women and has cheated on all three of his wives. You can't put the bar lower than him.
 

blackangst1

Lifer
Feb 23, 2005
20,827
804
126
Treating and preventing now cost less down the road. BUT SOCIALISM!!!! ZONKSOMG!!!

lol.
uh huh.

edit: medicare for all-Im ok looking at this.
College for all-fuck no. Who's gonna pay for it?
Universal jobs guarantee- LMAO fuck no.
Housing as a human right- lmao fuck no
Investing 100% in green industry-lmao fuck no. Dino fuel is still THE most cost effective solution for fuel.
Demilitarize police-lmao fuck no
Federal 100% funding of education-lmao fuck no. This is a local issue.

*taken from Ocasio-Cortez's website
 
Last edited:
  • Like
Reactions: pcgeek11

Sunburn74

Diamond Member
Oct 5, 2009
4,361
1,709
136
Im uncomfortable with the extremes on either side. Socialism is the direction the left seems to be going.

But who's gonna pay for it?
We are already overpaying for it.
We currently pay 2x as much per person in the US for healthcare than similar countries and still don't cover everyone. It's not a matter of cost. It's a matter of efficiency. If we could get down to the efficiency of the UK or France we could cover everyone and still spend about 1/2 the amount we are currently spending in aggregate.

There is very little reason why healthcare can't be a public good any different than say public school. Its mostly a matter of political will (ie choosing public interests over special interests)
 

JSt0rm

Lifer
Sep 5, 2000
27,399
3,942
126
uh huh.

edit: medicare for all-Im ok looking at this.
College for all-fuck no. Who's gonna pay for it?
Universal jobs guarantee- LMAO fuck no.
Housing as a human right- lmao fuck no
Investing 100% in green industry-lmao fuck no. Dino fuel is still THE most cost effective solution for fuel.
Demilitarize police-lmao fuck no
Federal 100% funding of education-lmao fuck no. This is a local issue.

*taken from Ocasio-Cortez's website
- a Christian
 

blackangst1

Lifer
Feb 23, 2005
20,827
804
126
We are already overpaying for it.
We currently pay 2x as much per person in the US for healthcare than similar countries and still don't cover everyone. It's not a matter of cost. It's a matter of efficiency. If we could get down to the efficiency of the UK or France we could cover everyone and still spend about 1/2 the amount we are currently spending in aggregate.

There is very little reason why healthcare can't be a public good any different than say public school. Its mostly a matter of political will (ie choosing public interests over special interests)
See my edit.
 

Blackjack200

Lifer
May 28, 2007
15,993
1,678
126
uh huh.

edit: medicare for all-Im ok looking at this.
College for all-fuck no. Who's gonna pay for it?
Universal jobs guarantee- LMAO fuck no.
Housing as a human right- lmao fuck no
Investing 100% in green industry-lmao fuck no. Dino fuel is still THE most cost effective solution for fuel.
Demilitarize police-lmao fuck no
Federal 100% funding of education-lmao fuck no. This is a local issue.

*taken from Ocasio-Cortez's website
That's cool, baby steps. Eventually you'll figure out that the rest of it makes just as much sense.
 

zerocool84

Lifer
Nov 11, 2004
36,041
469
126
uh huh.

edit: medicare for all-Im ok looking at this.
College for all-fuck no. Who's gonna pay for it?
Universal jobs guarantee- LMAO fuck no.
Housing as a human right- lmao fuck no
Investing 100% in green industry-lmao fuck no. Dino fuel is still THE most cost effective solution for fuel.
Demilitarize police-lmao fuck no
Federal 100% funding of education-lmao fuck no. This is a local issue.

*taken from Ocasio-Cortez's website
Another one of the FYGM people. As long as you are good, everyone else can f off. Who cares about the health and future of our country and children according to you.

Sure everything doesn't need to be free to everyone but Healthcare should be a basic right. The right to live, not the right to go bankrupt because you got sick.

You do know that fossil fuels are not going to last forever right? We only have a few decades until there will be worldwide shortages of oil.
 

blackangst1

Lifer
Feb 23, 2005
20,827
804
126
Another one of the FYGM people. As long as you are good, everyone else can f off. Who cares about the health and future of our country and children according to you.

Sure everything doesn't need to be free to everyone but Healthcare should be a basic right. The right to live, not the right to go bankrupt because you got sick.

You do know that fossil fuels are not going to last forever right? We only have a few decades until there will be worldwide shortages of oil.
As Ive previously stated, Im open to a "Medicare for all" type system.

As far as fossil fuels, we arent shot, so what the fuck is your issue? Do you disagree fossil fuels aqre not the most efficient?

So WTF is your problem with what Ive said?
 

ASK THE COMMUNITY