OC Build

[AustinMatherne]

What parts would you recommend for a $1200 OC Build.

 

[LiNoX]

just to start off the topic..

for the processor i think 3200+ Venice would be good.. or if you would like to consider for ~$50 less the 3000+ one..

 

[LiNoX]

a common question.. what are you going to be using your system for? Does that $1200 include a monitor?

 

[KoolDrew]

AMD Athlon 64 3200+ Venice - $190
DFI Ultra-D - $135
Crucial Value RAM 1GB (2x512MB) - $80
Thermalright XP-90 - $20
Panaflo 92x25mm Ultra High Speed - $9
Antec SmartPower 2.0 SP-500 - $67
ATI Radeon X800XL - $250
Seagate 80GB - $60
NEC burner - $50
COOLER MASTER Centurion 5 - $50
19" CRT ~$100
Logitech Elite keyboard - $30
Logitech MX518 - $40
Loitech speakers - $50.

 

[Mrvile]

Originally posted by: KoolDrew
AMD Athlon 64 3200+ Venice - $190
DFI Ultra-D - $135
Crucial Value RAM 1GB (2x512MB) - $80
Thermalright XP-90 - $20
Panaflo 92x25mm Ultra High Speed - $9
Antec SmartPower 2.0 SP-500 - $67
ATI Radeon X800XL - $250
Seagate 80GB - $60
NEC burner - $50
COOLER MASTER Centurion 5 - $50
19" CRT ~$100
Logitech Elite keyboard - $30
Logitech MX518 - $40
Loitech speakers - $50.

Yep something like that.

 

[UsandThem]

Originally posted by: Fishers Web
What parts would you recommend for a $1200 OC Build.

You have no idea what you want? Surely you have read something.

 

[SrGuapo]

What will the system be for? How good of an Ocer are you? Do you need peripherals (like a monitor, keyboard, mouse, speakers, etc.)?

 

[thecoolnessrune]

3000+ Venice core seems to be the overclocker sweet spot right now. Of course you could probably make some magic with an X2 4600+.

 

[KoolDrew]

Of course you could probably make some magic with an X2 4600+.

He said his budget was $1200

 

[IamTHEsnake]

Why in the world are you suggesting valueram for an OC build?

They are slow and have very little headroom for OCing, not to mention the lack of heat spreaders.

Buy OCZ or Corsair.

My pick would be the OCZ PC-4800 2x512MB DDR600. IF you get the 3200+ it will give you a theoretical limit of 3000Mhz (300x10) at 1:1. That is of course if you get a processor that can even achieve such a speed. BTW that would be a 50% OC from 2.0Ghz.

 

[SrGuapo]

Originally posted by: IamTHEsnake
Why in the world are you suggesting valueram for an OC build?

They are slow and have very little headroom for OCing, not to mention the lack of heat spreaders.

Buy OCZ or Corsair.

My pick would be the OCZ PC-4800 2x512MB DDR600. IF you get the 3200+ it will give you a theoretical limit of 3000Mhz (300x10) at 1:1. That is of course if you get a processor that can even achieve such a speed. BTW that would be a 50% OC from 2.0Ghz.

Because you can use dividers with value RAM. If you have a budget, that money is better served else where. Cheaper RAM may cause slighly lower performance (not noticeable in most situations), but a more expensive GPU/CPU will more than make up for it...

If you want cheap OCing RAM, get a DFI nf4 board and some OCZ value VX. That stuff should OC well but it needs like 3.0-3.4 volts to perform. It only cost around $110 IIRC. I've seen reports of people hitting 250MHZ at 2-2-2 timings...

 

[KoolDrew]

Why in the world are you suggesting valueram for an OC build?

They are slow and have very little headroom for OCing, not to mention the lack of heat spreaders.

Buy OCZ or Corsair.

My pick would be the OCZ PC-4800 2x512MB DDR600. IF you get the 3200+ it will give you a theoretical limit of 3000Mhz (300x10) at 1:1. That is of course if you get a processor that can even achieve such a speed. BTW that would be a 50% OC from 2.0Ghz.

First of all Value RAM will not limit your overclock one bit. Just use a divider. There will be no real-world performance loss. It may be noticable in benchmarks, but that is it. The price/performance ratio of more expensive "OC RAM" makes it not worth it and you are much better off buying the next level video card or something.

For example if he gets more expensive RAM he may have to get something lower then a X800XL. A X800Xl will give him much better improvement in games then some expensive RAM.

Also I find it really funny you said something about heatspreaders. Heatspreaders are for looks. Nothing more. They do not help keep your RAM cool one bit. Also Corsair is known to have problems with the DFI board.

 

[eXx08]

Originally posted by: KoolDrew
AMD Athlon 64 3200+ Venice - $190
DFI Ultra-D - $135
Crucial Value RAM 1GB (2x512MB) - $80
Thermalright XP-90 - $20
Panaflo 92x25mm Ultra High Speed - $9
Antec SmartPower 2.0 SP-500 - $67
ATI Radeon X800XL - $250
Seagate 80GB - $60
NEC burner - $50
COOLER MASTER Centurion 5 - $50
19" CRT ~$100
Logitech Elite keyboard - $30
Logitech MX518 - $40
Loitech speakers - $50.

Perfecto!!!!!!

 

[IamTHEsnake]

Now let me get this straight... using dividers causes no performance loss? This is news to me.

Can I see some comparisons please. I have always known/thought that dividers hinder performance, at least on the s478 P4's.

 

[MDE]

Originally posted by: IamTHEsnake
Now let me get this straight... using dividers causes no performance loss? This is news to me.

Can I see some comparisons please. I have always known/thought that dividers hinder performance, at least on the s478 P4's.

Almost no loss on Athlon 64. Look at Zebo's stickied Memory Matrix thread in the Overclocking forum.

 

[KoolDrew]

Originally posted by: IamTHEsnake
Now let me get this straight... using dividers causes no performance loss? This is news to me.

Can I see some comparisons please. I have always known/thought that dividers hinder performance, at least on the s478 P4's.

I wouldn't exactly say no performance loss. It may be noticable in benchmarks, but that is all. When it comes to real-world performance there will be no or very little difference.

That is why it is generally recommended to get Value RAM and then just get a more expensive video card with the money you save. It would be much more benefitial.

 

[IamTHEsnake]

Excellent, thank you for clearing that up.

 

[AustinMatherne]

Ok this is what I?m thinking about.
Still need some help with the RAM. I don?t want it to lament my OC but I don?t want to over spend on it ether.
I don?t know much about the deferent fans for the heatsink. Also should a replace the fans in the case?
Power supply again I don?t really know what I?m looking at.
Video card heatsink?

Motherboard: DFI Lanparty nForce4 Ultra-D $135.00
Processor: AMD Athlon 64 3000+ Venice $146.00
Processor Heatsink: Thermalright XP-90 $36.99
Processor Heatsink Fan: ??? $???
Thermal Paste: Arctic Silver 5 $7.99
Memory: ??? $???
Hard Drive: Western Digital Raptor 74GB $166.00
Optical Drive: NEC ND-3540A $48.00
Floppy Drive: NEC Black $8.49
Case: Cooler Master Centurion 5 $49.99
Power Supply: ??? $???
Video Card: eVGA e-GeForce 6800GT PCI-Express $345.00
Video Card Heatsink: ??? $???
Sound Card: Chaintech AV-710 $24.50

 

[KoolDrew]

For the heatsink fan get something like this. As for memory just get the cheapest from a good brand. it will not hurt your OC or overall performance one bit and you will save money. I have heard problems with Corsair VS though with the DFi so i wouldn't get that. Some people have not had problems, but many have.

As for PSU the Antec SP2 500w is a great PSU for a great price.

 

[AustinMatherne]

I?m ordering this soon but I still need some help deciding on RAM and I would like to use a Vantec Stealth 92mm for the Processor but I don?t know if I would get a better OC with a Panaflo???
I am also leaning towards a Seasonic S12-600W Power Supply but I would like to know what you recommend.
Also what is the deference between the Zalman VF700-ALCu and the VF700-Cu???

Motherboard: DFI Lanparty nForce4 Ultra-D $135.00
Processor: AMD Athlon 64 3000+ Venice $146.00
Processor Heatsink: Thermalright XP-90 $31.99
Processor Heatsink Fan: ??? $???
Thermal Paste: Arctic Silver 5 $6.99
Memory: ??? $???
Hard Drive: Western Digital Raptor 74GB $175.00
Optical Drive: NEC ND-3540A $48.00
Floppy Drive: NEC Black $8.49
Case: Cooler Master Centurion 5 $49.99
120mm Case Fan: Vantec Stealth 120mm $12.99
80mm Case Fan: Vantec Stealth 80mm $7.00
Power Supply: ??? $???
Video Card: eVGA e-GeForce 6800GT PCI-Express $345.00
Video Card Heatsink: Zalman VF700-ALCu $25.99
Sound Card: Sound Blaster Audigy2 ZS $58.00
Speakers: Logitech Z-5300E $110.86
Keyboard: Saitek Gamers? Keyboard $43.00
Mouse: Logitech MX1000 $51.99
Headset: Sennheiser RS120 $66.95
TOTAL: $???


Edit: Yes I know this is over my first budget.

 

[AustinMatherne]

bump

 

[l Xes l]

ocz powerstream has adujustable rail... perfect for OC'in.....
i have the same case.. i luv it... w/ memory u will want to go w/ OCZ since dfi is picky about rams..

 

[fstime]

Why the hell are people reccomending all this POS value ram with there is OCZ Value VX and Twinmos UTT that will do 2-2-2-5 @ 2.8V

With the DFI board, you can hit 250fsb @ 3.4V easy.

I have 4 pairs and all hit 250 fsb 2-2-2-5.

 

[AustinMatherne]

Update

Motherboard: DFI Lanparty nForce4 Ultra-D $135.00
Processor: AMD Athlon 64 3000+ Venice $146.00
Processor Heatsink: Thermalright XP-120 $48.99
Processor Heatsink Fan: Panaflo 120mm Ultra High Speed $11.95
Thermal Paste: Arctic Silver 5 $6.99
Memory: OCZ Value Series VX 1GB $105.25
Hard Drive: Western Digital Raptor 74GB $175.00
Optical Drive: NEC ND-3540A $48.00
Floppy Drive: NEC Black $8.49
Case: Cooler Master Centurion 5 $49.99
120mm Case Fan: Panaflo 120mm Ultra High Speed $11.95
80mm Case Fan: Panaflo 80mm Ultra High Speed $8.95
Power Supply: OCZ Power Stream 520W $124.00
Video Card: eVGA e-GeForce 6800GT PCI-Express $345.00
Video Card Heatsink: Zalman VF700-Cu $29.99
Sound Card: Sound Blaster Audigy2 ZS $58.00

 

[Mrvile]

Originally posted by: Fishers Web
Update

Motherboard: DFI Lanparty nForce4 Ultra-D $135.00
Processor: AMD Athlon 64 3000+ Venice $146.00
Processor Heatsink: Thermalright XP-120 $48.99
Processor Heatsink Fan: Panaflo 120mm Ultra High Speed $11.95
Thermal Paste: Arctic Silver 5 $6.99
Memory: OCZ Value Series VX 1GB $105.25
Hard Drive: Western Digital Raptor 74GB $175.00
Optical Drive: NEC ND-3540A $48.00
Floppy Drive: NEC Black $8.49
Case: Cooler Master Centurion 5 $49.99
120mm Case Fan: Panaflo 120mm Ultra High Speed $11.95
80mm Case Fan: Panaflo 80mm Ultra High Speed $8.95
Power Supply: OCZ Power Stream 520W $124.00
Video Card: eVGA e-GeForce 6800GT PCI-Express $345.00
Video Card Heatsink: Zalman VF700-Cu $29.99
Sound Card: Sound Blaster Audigy2 ZS $58.00

Looks good, but it's gonna be hella loud.