Are all your systems 100% stable? People who are having lots of issues with the black screen, try prime blend overnight, I know my system isn't stable so that might be the reason
Your black screen isn't fixed by alt-ctrl-del then alt-tabbing back in, right? And there's no 2d interface at all left? No mouse, etc?
Edit: Ahhh! I found some settings you might try in your .ini ! This may have to do with other parts of your PC than your graphics card. Check out the Oblivion tweaks at this link: http://www.tweakguides.com/Oblivion_1.html
Especially the bits where he mentions that it might cause instability on some systems. I saw that some of my settings were automatically set to the "unstable" setting by default.
Also, I've been using the 84.25 nvidia drivers and seem to be having less problems than my friend on a very similar machine with the 84.21's.
Edit: Ahhh! I found some settings you might try in your .ini ! This may have to do with other parts of your PC than your graphics card. Check out the Oblivion tweaks at this link: http://www.tweakguides.com/Oblivion_1.html
Especially the bits where he mentions that it might cause instability on some systems. I saw that some of my settings were automatically set to the "unstable" setting by default.
Also, I've been using the 84.25 nvidia drivers and seem to be having less problems than my friend on a very similar machine with the 84.21's.
I'm having this exact same issue. Basically, signal cuts out and the monitor goes black as if the power had been turned off. PC is still on, though, and game sound continues. My system is otherwise extremely stable and has never done anything like this before. I haven't tried the workarounds described here. Will give those a try.
its sad, i'v nevr had AA or HDR or Bloom on... It crashed a couple of times withing <30 mins. Its sad the best game is also the buggiest. *Cries*
Turning off HDR would ruin the essential beauty of the game
As for me, I stabilized my memory and CPU 100% and gameplay has been fine, then I worked on my video card, instant black screen, so that is my problem, either the clocks on my card aren't stable or the game is just really finiky with the clocks
As for me, I stabilized my memory and CPU 100% and gameplay has been fine, then I worked on my video card, instant black screen, so that is my problem, either the clocks on my card aren't stable or the game is just really finiky with the clocks
Same exact issues, same exact video card, EVGA 7800GT, with the NV5 silencer. Tried reinstalling cooler using AS5, didn't help much. GPU no load is around 45-46 degrees and under load is mid to low 50's so I don't think its a heat issue. I've also tried the ini tweaks and it made the game even buggier, even though they are supposed to stablilize? Blah, great game but this is getting frustrating., spent the last 4 hours troubleshooting and nothing seemed to help.
Just to be sure, I ran my computer under 2 different prime95 torture test. One was more for cpu, the other RAM. It passed fine. During this time my cpu got up to 42 C, which is just fine.
Try different drivers from nvidia.com. And everyone who has a 7800gt could post their driver versions so you will know what doesn't work.
I have a theory!
I have two computers, one is my husband's and one is my own. His is better, but not by much - the only differences are that his hdd is bigger, his cpu slightly faster, a razr diamondback for a mouse and a half gig more of ram. I've got 1.5 gigs, he has two. Since his computer runs Oblivion flawlessly and mine has the issue of the world graphics disappearing (while letting things like journal and the visibility gem stay seen), my best thought is that the 2 gigs of ram makes the difference. I went through and didn't see anyone here using two gigs, though I'm often blind as a bat
I have no real way to test this idea since I'd be skinned alive for going near his precious ram and can't afford to upgrade myself yet, but hopefully this will help someone
I have two computers, one is my husband's and one is my own. His is better, but not by much - the only differences are that his hdd is bigger, his cpu slightly faster, a razr diamondback for a mouse and a half gig more of ram. I've got 1.5 gigs, he has two. Since his computer runs Oblivion flawlessly and mine has the issue of the world graphics disappearing (while letting things like journal and the visibility gem stay seen), my best thought is that the 2 gigs of ram makes the difference. I went through and didn't see anyone here using two gigs, though I'm often blind as a bat
I have no real way to test this idea since I'd be skinned alive for going near his precious ram and can't afford to upgrade myself yet, but hopefully this will help someone I have the very same problem Only happens when I go outside. Its definetly not a heat, power , resource issue. Definetly oblivion game . I've tried different workarounds from different forums but none work. I did notice that if you quite out the game the amount of resource the game uses is seriously high 650mb of ram on my system. Games like half life 2 , BF2 etc only use half that.
You think a patch would be out already
Athlon X2 4400+ , XFX 7800 GT Extreme (Ver 84.21 ), 1024 Corsair Twinx , Asus A8n SLi Deluxe
Just about to try new drivers 84.25 but dont see anything improving unless someone comes up with a miracle fix as dont see bethesda releasing anything
You think a patch would be out already
Athlon X2 4400+ , XFX 7800 GT Extreme (Ver 84.21 ), 1024 Corsair Twinx , Asus A8n SLi Deluxe
Just about to try new drivers 84.25 but dont see anything improving unless someone comes up with a miracle fix as dont see bethesda releasing anything
Tried the new beta version of Nvidia Drivers 84.43 . Swithced off distance drawing and it ran fine for 10 mins ...thought yes !!! But went in to a fort and came back out and it just started doing the same thing..... I really quite fancy playing this game but presently it aint an option.
Originally posted by: Jenjo
I have a theory!
I have two computers, one is my husband's and one is my own. His is better, but not by much - the only differences are that his hdd is bigger, his cpu slightly faster, a razr diamondback for a mouse and a half gig more of ram. I've got 1.5 gigs, he has two. Since his computer runs Oblivion flawlessly and mine has the issue of the world graphics disappearing (while letting things like journal and the visibility gem stay seen), my best thought is that the 2 gigs of ram makes the difference. I went through and didn't see anyone here using two gigs, though I'm often blind as a bat
I'm using 2G
It isn't a power problem, it is either a driver or game issue or something to do with 7800GT's
Ok, I just had this happen for the first time. I installed several mod's I downloaded from fileplanet and walked outside, ran around, everything was working fine. Closed an Oblivion gate, ran back to town (Chorol(sp)) and into the blacksmiths... black screen on loading. I've gotten the black screen before, usually when fighting something, but this time there was no 2d interface and I couldn't alt-tab, exactly as you guys have explained. I will try playing around with this some more- the only thing I've changed since it's been working "fine" (at least I could alt-tab) is the drivers to the 84.43 set, and the mods. I'll roll back my drivers to the 84.30's that seemed to work amazingly well, and see what happens. Then I'll try removing the mods I loaded. At this point I can say it's not the machine, it's the software.
Update: played for 5-6 hours without changing anything and was unable to reproduce the lock-up; did experience the black screen with 2d interface one time, and crashed with reportable errors 5-6 times. The crashing is new so it might be related to the black screen bug- not entirely sure though. It DOES seem to happen on loading a completely new environment. Also, at 90+ hours of gameplay the whole loading process seems to have slowed to a crawl on my machine. Perhaps this is some sort of database issue with our characters?
(Machine specs: Asus A8N32-SLI, AMD 4800+X2, 2GB Patriot 2-3-2-5, BFG 7800GTXoc, Creative-labs X-Fi)
Update: played for 5-6 hours without changing anything and was unable to reproduce the lock-up; did experience the black screen with 2d interface one time, and crashed with reportable errors 5-6 times. The crashing is new so it might be related to the black screen bug- not entirely sure though. It DOES seem to happen on loading a completely new environment. Also, at 90+ hours of gameplay the whole loading process seems to have slowed to a crawl on my machine. Perhaps this is some sort of database issue with our characters?
(Machine specs: Asus A8N32-SLI, AMD 4800+X2, 2GB Patriot 2-3-2-5, BFG 7800GTXoc, Creative-labs X-Fi)
Ok guys! I'm gonna try and help out here.
This is an issue (monitor turning off [orange light on, not green - it's like suspend mode]) I've had with many games. It isn't a hardware issue, and afaik it's a driver issue, or something to do with your video card. To prove this, I reformatted today. I was playing Oblivion FINE (on my 2gb ram, 6600GT with whatever drivers I had, Athlon64+ 3200) yesterday! Didn't work today, got that problem about 1 minute into the game (doing nothing fancy, I think I was in the inventory...). I screamed. I went and downloaded the latest drivers, and I thought it fixed it - it worked for about half an hour, and then boom. Tried again, 2 minutes later, same deal. There's no pattern with this, sometimes it will last for hours, othertimes not even minutes. The best thing I can recommend is:
Monitor Refresh rate
OpenGL & D3D
AA and AF
I don't know how I've fixed it most times, and it's only ever one game at one time normally. Generally screwing with those will eventually get it to work. I am gonna go try my suggestions, see if I can figure anything out and get back to you guys.
My drivers as of this post are 6.6.9.3.
This is an issue (monitor turning off [orange light on, not green - it's like suspend mode]) I've had with many games. It isn't a hardware issue, and afaik it's a driver issue, or something to do with your video card. To prove this, I reformatted today. I was playing Oblivion FINE (on my 2gb ram, 6600GT with whatever drivers I had, Athlon64+ 3200) yesterday! Didn't work today, got that problem about 1 minute into the game (doing nothing fancy, I think I was in the inventory...). I screamed. I went and downloaded the latest drivers, and I thought it fixed it - it worked for about half an hour, and then boom. Tried again, 2 minutes later, same deal. There's no pattern with this, sometimes it will last for hours, othertimes not even minutes. The best thing I can recommend is:
Monitor Refresh rate
OpenGL & D3D
AA and AF
I don't know how I've fixed it most times, and it's only ever one game at one time normally. Generally screwing with those will eventually get it to work. I am gonna go try my suggestions, see if I can figure anything out and get back to you guys.
My drivers as of this post are 6.6.9.3.
I was under the assumption that most people talking about this problem in this thread ONLY experience it in Oblivion? I know that is the case for me. I can run pretty much any other game software without any problems. It *might* be driver related, however it is driver interaction with Oblivion that we would be discussing, not a broad sweeping problem amongst all games. If it were memory timings or the PSU it would affect other games, or other aspects of the computer.
No , I'm getting the same black screens and lockups as well. Examples' are...
I'll be outside (frequent area loads) and the game will black screen and I'll get an error message. "The application Oblivion has expeirienced an error and the application must now close" It will shut down the game , and if I try to run it again , it will black screen when I try to load a saved game. I'll have to restart the computer in order to play again.
or
The game will freeze with the same symptoms while going through a door , or talking to someone.
I've also had the game freeze upon the first load after a restart.
I think this is a memory leak or a commit charge issue , and if you look at the commit charge of the game after like an hour or two of play , it's huge. I don't think the page file can keep up with this. If you've disabled the pagefile because of running 2 gigs of RAM , you may be having issues more than usual.
I still get crashes with all of the video options turned off , and everything as low as it can go , it just takes a little longer than usual. I would say this is just a bug in the game that will be patched. I've been reading quite a bit about this type of error with the game , and I've now experienced it first hand!
I'll be outside (frequent area loads) and the game will black screen and I'll get an error message. "The application Oblivion has expeirienced an error and the application must now close" It will shut down the game , and if I try to run it again , it will black screen when I try to load a saved game. I'll have to restart the computer in order to play again.
or
The game will freeze with the same symptoms while going through a door , or talking to someone.
I've also had the game freeze upon the first load after a restart.
I think this is a memory leak or a commit charge issue , and if you look at the commit charge of the game after like an hour or two of play , it's huge. I don't think the page file can keep up with this. If you've disabled the pagefile because of running 2 gigs of RAM , you may be having issues more than usual.
I still get crashes with all of the video options turned off , and everything as low as it can go , it just takes a little longer than usual. I would say this is just a bug in the game that will be patched. I've been reading quite a bit about this type of error with the game , and I've now experienced it first hand!
Though alt tabbing or ctrl alt deleting to bring up task manager both work to clear the blackness (may have to try multipal times or hit esc in game then do it)
I think i have found the root of the problem. Its what ive expected all along. A lighting problem. Turn off HDR lighting in options and magically the black screens go away
The down side is the game dosnt look as good, but its highly preferable to tabbing every few mins.
I think i have found the root of the problem. Its what ive expected all along. A lighting problem. Turn off HDR lighting in options and magically the black screens go away
The down side is the game dosnt look as good, but its highly preferable to tabbing every few mins.
yeah my 7800gtx has the same problems, not overheating/power supply either...
when it freezes, I just hit F5 for a quicksave and restart...
when it freezes, I just hit F5 for a quicksave and restart...
There are two different problems being discussed here, one you can work around via alt-tab and/or saving and loading- whereas the other you can NOT. I had expereinced the errors where the 3d environment was blacked out, but alt-tabbing would recover. Those still display the 2d interface. What the original poster was talking about is a seperate issue which occurs on loading- and has nothing to do with HDR, power supply, or memory clock speed. Many people have expereinced it. Your monitor does NOT go to standby mode. Unless you meet all of the above criteria, you're not having the same issue...
I didn't expereince this sort of lockup (though I did expereince game freezing earlier, as well as the black environment which CAN be fixed) until 90+ hours of gameplay.
I didn't expereince this sort of lockup (though I did expereince game freezing earlier, as well as the black environment which CAN be fixed) until 90+ hours of gameplay.
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