Oblivion performance with Ati x1900xt?

trogdor07

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Okay so I buy Oblivion and am trying it out on my brand new computer but am getting pretty bad frame drops. I even saw the mid teens in fps....My question is why!?? Here are my system specs:
ATI X1900XT @XTX SPEEDS
ASUS P5LD2 DELUXE
PENDTIUM D 920
2GB CORSAIR DDR 667 VALUE SELECT RAM
80GIG HARD DRIVE
HIPER TYPE R 580WATT MODULAR PSU

The game detects that my settings should be set to Ultra High, yet when I play I get bad drops in the frame rate! Please help!
 

1Dark1Sharigan1

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Make sure you have the latest drivers and by "bad drops" how low are we talking because the FPS will naturally drop a lot when outside and when fighting.
 

trogdor07

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I have the 6.4 drivers from ati and the drops I'm talking about are as low as 16 FPS. I'm running the game at 1024x768 with the recommended ultra high settings and the drops are very noticable.
 

1Dark1Sharigan1

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Originally posted by: trogdor07
I have the 6.4 drivers from ati and the drops I'm talking about are as low as 16 FPS. I'm running the game at 1024x768 with the recommended ultra high settings and the drops are very noticable.

Hmm that is abnormal. In think some other users where having similar problems with their X1900XT and Oblivion but I don't remember how that issue was resolved.
 

josh6079

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Tweakguides.com gives some good info about needing to defrag your system after installation. Sometimes if you don't do that, it runs really choppy and low fps.
 

Munky

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Originally posted by: Dethfrumbelo
Munky was having the same issue. Maybe he's figured it out by now.

That would be me. I was playing at 1280x960 with maxed out settings (HDR but no AA) and the frames would sometimes drop into the 20's outside, but never into the teens. At other times it would not go below 30, so this game is inconsistent in performance. Right now I'm playing at 1024x768 with HDR, 2xAAA, HQ AF, max settings, and it never goes below 25fps, but I have a 2.4ghz dual core opteron, so I guess the P-D will have even lower minimum fps.

I would say this game just needs a patch to imporve performance and fix some bugs, because it occasionally crashes, either on exit or during gameplay.
 

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I'm not running a dualie , like Munky , but we were talking about the bugs with this yesterday. After playing last night , I'm certain this is just something they need to patch. I am getting pretty decent frames running the 7800gs co superclock on my system , running 1024 x 768 with almost everything maxed. But I crash after a few hours.
BTW , my commit charge reached 905 when it crashed again....I'm almost positive the crashing is from a memory leak. I bet with these few issues with the game happening across the board , ATI inconsistent frame rates with a high end card and latest drivers.... and the crashing..
Bet the patch we are all looking for is coming soon.
 

TanisHalfElven

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why oh GOD was oblvion another unfinished game shipped to users. i bet they would have sold more copies if they had optimised the engine for lower end and stopped those crashes and all. really i know so many ppl wanting to play oblivion but can't due to the steep requiements.
 

Maxspeed996

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because it was so cool they could wait no longer....I can play for an hour and a half , maybe two hours...stop , take a break , restart my computer , and play again....and everything is fine!! Maybe its a subtle way of saying "Hey , you've been sitting there for way to long!!!"
 

LittleNemoNES

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The game is huge. Better optimization would mean in this case, what? More loading? No freedom? It's just the reality of a game of this scope.
the pentium D is prob the culprit, btw. Tsk, tsk, tsk. You should have looked around these forums a bit before you settled on that CPU, buddy. Sorry but 'tis the truth...
 
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I have a X1900XT with all settings on High and my FPS doesn't go below 20fps in outdoor areas (1280x1024), so low teens does sound unusual. Are you running any special 3D settings in Catalyst Control Center (AF, AA /w Chuck Patch etc)?
 

trogdor07

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I bought the cpu because of the price and because I prefer Intel. Whether or not they are OPTIMIZED for gaming. Besides looks like those Conroes are just around the corner. This is just to hold me over! Can't wait! I also have a fresh install of windows xp pro. So I dont know what the deal is. It seems the longer I play the game the lower the frame drops are. I don't know.
 

1Dark1Sharigan1

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Originally posted by: trogdor07
It seems the longer I play the game the lower the frame drops are. I don't know.

I think this may be due to the fact that the longer the game runs, the more RAM it uses. Cause this happens to me as well.
 

v8envy

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My first guess it's your 2.8 ghz cpu. Oblivion is different from most games -- the AI engine is running in the background, having ALL the NPCs in the game 'think' while you play.

Do this. Crank the resolution down to 640x480 with the same settings. If you still see awful performance in the same areas doing the same things, it's not the video card. If performance skyrockets, it's not your cpu.

I know xbit showed a 3.2 ghz p4 is all you need for gaming, and a 2.8 ghz is only 15% slower, and in their tests only took a 5-10fps performance hit on average. But Oblivion may be more of a CPU hog than previous shooters.

Or, it could simply be choking on loading all the textures from disk because your game is installed on the last 3/4 of your hard drive, with fragmentation.
 

moonboy403

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where are you experiencing these slow downs?

if it's outside, i'd say it's normal if you max out all settings and using hdr
 

LiekOMG

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Strange how these top of the line video cards are being slowed down to a crawl in Oblivion. The thing is, Oblivion is running great for me on my 6800Ultra. I'm running at 1280x1024 w/ 4xAA and i get around 25-40fps outdoors, significantly more indoors. Everything is on max except for like 2 or 3 things, so i'm surprised that a 1900XT can't cope.
 

moonboy403

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hdr is much more rigorous in terms of performance hit than 4aa + bloom

and the few things that you didn't max out in addition to some ini tweaks probably contributed to the slow downs as well
 

trogdor07

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Well when i got the hit, it was like at the beginning of the game when we were leaving the cell and those guys try to attack the king and the captain dies. I drops ridiculously in frames.
 

Dethfrumbelo

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Originally posted by: moonboy403
hdr is much more rigorous in terms of performance hit than 4aa + bloom

and the few things that you didn't max out in addition to some ini tweaks probably contributed to the slow downs as well

Actually, I got better frames with HDR than with Bloom + 4xAA.

Turn the damn shadows down, no foliage/grass shadows and then see what happens. They don't add much anyway.


 

Dainas

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Oblivion is an extremly EXTREMLY cpu dependant game, like morrowind before it. So much so that having the right CPU type will make an almost night/day difference. Video performance is very important too, but obviously your covered there with the x1900XT(and it should do fine as long as you don't go insane with AA).

The real problem has been stated though, your using a Pentium D for gaming, and thats like buying a super duty diesel truck for drag racing. Pentium D are excellent for heavy multimeadia mutitasking, but they are dismal for gaming. So much so that I'd suggest changing platforms to Athlon 64 or a Intel Pentium M dirivitive because your sub-par performance will not end with Oblivion.
 

LOUISSSSS

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x1900xtx should have no problems running max settings outdoors... even at 1280x1024
i blame 1/4 the cpu, 1/2 the POS PSU, and 1.4 the software programming (patch? upgrade?)
 

DeathReborn

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Originally posted by: LOUISSSSS
x1900xtx should have no problems running max settings outdoors... even at 1280x1024
i blame 1/4 the cpu, 1/2 the POS PSU, and 1.4 the software programming (patch? upgrade?)

You can rule out the PSU as it's more than capable of running a X1900XTX. It looks like a combination of Pentium-D & as mentioned, cacheing textures.