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Obama's security advisor...

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Originally posted by: palehorse
Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Originally posted by: palehorse
Heaven forbid anyone should use a metaphor, an analogy, or *gasp* an allusion, to help people understand very complex issues... sheesh.. HOW DARE HE!?!

what's with this inexplicable hatred of literary techniques?! 😕

This thread delivers like a square wheel!
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And just what do you think his point is by saying "Winnie the Pooh seems to me to be a fundamental text on national security."?
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Do I really have to walk you through the meanings and uses for analogies and allusions? seriously!?

His point is that the very basic and seemingly obvious lessons presented in Winnie the Pooh books, and Star Wars movies, are probably a very good place to start looking for answers to our current national security problems.

Because, somewhere along the way, we forgot the fucking basics.
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I understand the using of analogies and allusions. However, my question was what do YOU think his point was? You think it's because we forgot the basics? Sure, that works to an extent but there are many other ways to say that than using Pooh as your text IMO.
How do you think his policies will get us back to the basics if that's what you think his point was? What policies will get us "back" there?

This thread is locked because the OP has done NOTHING but troll.

Perknose
Senior AT Mod

 
Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Originally posted by: Tab
Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Wow, I didn't expect much else from the followers. Nothing but "you're too stupid to understand" type comments and whining that I posted.
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What difference does it make? A rational response and I am instantly diagnosed with BDS! I have better things to do than cry over this...

Next time, make a thread when we have something worth discussing.
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This is worth discussing IMO. This guy(Danzig) could be the next NSA and he's using Winnie the pooh as his "fundamental text"?
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So? There are plenty of people who've got a lot of Star Wars, Ayn Rand, Children of Men, XYZ Famous Fiction book, what difference does it make?
 
?Here is Edward Bear, coming downstairs now, bump, bump, bump on the back of his head behind Christopher Robin. It is, as far as he knows, the only way of coming down stairs. But sometimes he thinks there really is another way if only he could stop bumping a minute and think about it.?
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You'd think CAD would have want to have kept this one locked considering his self-pwnage in it.
 
Originally posted by: Perknose
Wow, CAD, what a pitiful troll. Do you really not understand the illustrative power of analogies? 🙁
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:thumbsup: This is clearly a troll. It deserved the lock IMO.
 
Originally posted by: Corbett
Originally posted by: loki8481
this seems roughly as srs and important as McCain making fun of his PC abilities.
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Agreed.
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Ya, this is just dumb. It could just as easily be a cheap shot against McCain and I would still come in here and say how stupid it is to post this crap.
 
Originally posted by: Xavier434
Originally posted by: Corbett
Originally posted by: loki8481
this seems roughly as srs and important as McCain making fun of his PC abilities.
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Agreed.
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Ya, this is just dumb. It could just as easily be a cheap shot against McCain and I would still come in here and say how stupid it is to post this crap.
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Yeah this is as ridiculous as those threads questioning McCains fitness to be a good President because he allegedly wasn't a very good fighter pilot.
 
Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Originally posted by: Tab
Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Wow, I didn't expect much else from the followers. Nothing but "you're too stupid to understand" type comments and whining that I posted.
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What difference does it make? A rational response and I am instantly diagnosed with BDS! I have better things to do than cry over this...

Next time, make a thread when we have something worth discussing.
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This is worth discussing IMO. This guy(Danzig) could be the next NSA and he's using Winnie the pooh as his "fundamental text"?
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Yes, that's exactly what he would do. He would sit in his office and reference nothing except for the wit and wisdom of Winnie The Pooh.

Are you the program director at Fox News?
 
CAD, I think that I will take the former Secretary of the Navy's interpretation of what he was trying to say re:Winnie....

Mr Danzig spelt out the need to change by reading a paragraph from chapter one of the children?s classic, which says: ?Here is Edward Bear, coming downstairs now, bump, bump, bump on the back of his head behind Christopher Robin. It is, as far as he knows, the only way of coming down stairs. But sometimes he thinks there really is another way if only he could stop bumping a minute and think about it.?
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IOW, if something isn't working effectively, TRY SOMETHING DIFFERENT.
 
Originally posted by: RightIsWrong
CAD, I think that I will take the former Secretary of the Navy's interpretation of what he was trying to say re:Winnie....

Mr Danzig spelt out the need to change by reading a paragraph from chapter one of the children?s classic, which says: ?Here is Edward Bear, coming downstairs now, bump, bump, bump on the back of his head behind Christopher Robin. It is, as far as he knows, the only way of coming down stairs. But sometimes he thinks there really is another way if only he could stop bumping a minute and think about it.?
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IOW, if something isn't working effectively, TRY SOMETHING DIFFERENT.
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And it isn't working? Have we not foiled attacks? Have we had any? IMO, going back to the 9/10 mentality this guy seems to support(from what I can tell) isn't "different", it's what got us attacked.
 
I am not surprised that the Obamabots and some others don't want to discuss this issue and just keep trolling. It seems to be the default reaction of late to anything that questions Obama or his campaign.

Meh, suit yourself.... troll away
 
Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
I am not surprised that the Obamabots and some others don't want to discuss this issue and just keep trolling. It seems to be the default reaction of late to anything that questions Obama or his campaign.

Meh, suit yourself.... troll away
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Or it's because there isn't anything to discuss...
 
Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
I am not surprised that the Obamabots and some others don't want to discuss this issue and just keep trolling. It seems to be the default reaction of late to anything that questions Obama or his campaign.

Meh, suit yourself.... troll away
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Discussions occur in most threads posted in P&N regardless of the opinions "Obamabots" and trolls. This topic is not being discussed because it sucks.
 
Originally posted by: Xavier434
Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
I am not surprised that the Obamabots and some others don't want to discuss this issue and just keep trolling. It seems to be the default reaction of late to anything that questions Obama or his campaign.

Meh, suit yourself.... troll away
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Discussions occur in most threads posted in P&N regardless of the opinions "Obamabots" and trolls. This topic is not being discussed because it sucks.
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Sure are alot of you obamabots in here....not doing any discussing.
 
Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Originally posted by: RightIsWrong
CAD, I think that I will take the former Secretary of the Navy's interpretation of what he was trying to say re:Winnie....

Mr Danzig spelt out the need to change by reading a paragraph from chapter one of the children?s classic, which says: ?Here is Edward Bear, coming downstairs now, bump, bump, bump on the back of his head behind Christopher Robin. It is, as far as he knows, the only way of coming down stairs. But sometimes he thinks there really is another way if only he could stop bumping a minute and think about it.?
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IOW, if something isn't working effectively, TRY SOMETHING DIFFERENT.
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And it isn't working? Have we not foiled attacks? Have we had any? IMO, going back to the 9/10 mentality this guy seems to support(from what I can tell) isn't "different", it's what got us attacked.
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Surely you are just playing Devil's advocate and don't really believe this crap, right?

Have we foiled attacks? TBH, I don't know. I know that the Bush admin has claimed that we have but they really won't release any details to support these claims. I do know that they have also exaggerated claims of potential attacks too.

Have we had any? If you only mean domestic? Yes we have. Remember the Anthrax scares? Those were considered terrorist attacks. If you mean globally, there have been thousands.

If you are trying to make the case that Bush's "post 9/11" way of fighting terrorism is somehow working, you're insane.

First, he didn't even finish the job unlike the "9/10 mentality" when the WTC was bombed in '93 and we tracked down, prosecuted and convicted the person behind it. Where's OBL? Secondly, WTF are we doing in Iraq other than strengthening the recruitment efforts of terrorist organizations?

I can only hope that you are joking and this is just a parody thread full of fail.
 
Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Originally posted by: Xavier434
Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
I am not surprised that the Obamabots and some others don't want to discuss this issue and just keep trolling. It seems to be the default reaction of late to anything that questions Obama or his campaign.

Meh, suit yourself.... troll away
Click to expand...

Discussions occur in most threads posted in P&N regardless of the opinions "Obamabots" and trolls. This topic is not being discussed because it sucks.
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Sure are alot of you obamabots in here....not doing any discussing.
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Funny...I don't see big discussions happening in here from the McCain supporters either.
 
Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Originally posted by: Xavier434
Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
I am not surprised that the Obamabots and some others don't want to discuss this issue and just keep trolling. It seems to be the default reaction of late to anything that questions Obama or his campaign.

Meh, suit yourself.... troll away
Click to expand...

Discussions occur in most threads posted in P&N regardless of the opinions "Obamabots" and trolls. This topic is not being discussed because it sucks.
Click to expand...

Sure are alot of you obamabots in here....not doing any discussing.
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This whole topic is akin to someone starting a thread to the effect of "John McCain referred to his wife as a c*nt, clearly he is sexist, discuss" and then attacking anyone who disagreed with their position. You have presented your point, and when you failed to garner support from a single person, you lashed out and branded your detractors with a label rather than addressing their arguments. You have utterly failed at convincing anyone of your point... Come to think of it, what is your point? Do you think that Obama's NSA is going to get all his policy advice from the works of A.A. Milne?

"Quite frankly, Mr. Obama, I think our only choice in this oil crisis is to dress you as a rain cloud and balloon you into hostile territory to retrieve the oil reserves cunningly stored in that tree."
 
Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Originally posted by: Xavier434
Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
I am not surprised that the Obamabots and some others don't want to discuss this issue and just keep trolling. It seems to be the default reaction of late to anything that questions Obama or his campaign.

Meh, suit yourself.... troll away
Click to expand...

Discussions occur in most threads posted in P&N regardless of the opinions "Obamabots" and trolls. This topic is not being discussed because it sucks.
Click to expand...

Sure are alot of you obamabots in here....not doing any discussing.
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We're discussing the topic, we're talking about how stupid and pathetic it is.
 
Originally posted by: RightIsWrong
Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Originally posted by: RightIsWrong
CAD, I think that I will take the former Secretary of the Navy's interpretation of what he was trying to say re:Winnie....

Mr Danzig spelt out the need to change by reading a paragraph from chapter one of the children?s classic, which says: ?Here is Edward Bear, coming downstairs now, bump, bump, bump on the back of his head behind Christopher Robin. It is, as far as he knows, the only way of coming down stairs. But sometimes he thinks there really is another way if only he could stop bumping a minute and think about it.?
Click to expand...

IOW, if something isn't working effectively, TRY SOMETHING DIFFERENT.
Click to expand...

And it isn't working? Have we not foiled attacks? Have we had any? IMO, going back to the 9/10 mentality this guy seems to support(from what I can tell) isn't "different", it's what got us attacked.
Click to expand...

Surely you are just playing Devil's advocate and don't really believe this crap, right?

Have we foiled attacks? TBH, I don't know. I know that the Bush admin has claimed that we have but they really won't release any details to support these claims. I do know that they have also exaggerated claims of potential attacks too.

Have we had any? If you only mean domestic? Yes we have. Remember the Anthrax scares? Those were considered terrorist attacks. If you mean globally, there have been thousands.

If you are trying to make the case that Bush's "post 9/11" way of fighting terrorism is somehow working, you're insane.

First, he didn't even finish the job unlike the "9/10 mentality" when the WTC was bombed in '93 and we tracked down, prosecuted and convicted the person behind it. Where's OBL? Secondly, WTF are we doing in Iraq other than strengthening the recruitment efforts of terrorist organizations?

I can only hope that you are joking and this is just a parody thread full of fail.
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^^This is an example of people forgetting. ^^

Ofcourse you don't believe we've stopped them, you only seem to believe what you want.
We've had a few domestic nuts. Always have had, always will have.

You can make a case that the "post 9/11" way isn't working? Oh please do share why you think our approach to terrrorism isn't working.... The '93 issue does not it isn't working and the other is just your opinion on the war.


Question for you(and any of the trolls who wish to actually do something besides trolling) - Should we go arrest OBL and prosecute him in our courtroom?
 
Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

^^This is an example of people forgetting. ^^

Ofcourse you don't believe we've stopped them, you only seem to believe what you want.
We've had a few domestic nuts. Always have had, always will have.

You can make a case that the "post 9/11" way isn't working? Oh please do share why you think our approach to terrrorism isn't working.... The '93 issue does not it isn't working and the other is just your opinion on the war.


Question for you(and any of the trolls who wish to actually do something besides trolling) - Should we go arrest OBL and prosecute him in our courtroom?
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I'll bite. How about the news stories that I read every single week about another terrorist act being committed over there? I don't know if you have noticed, but the rate at which those stories come rolling in hasn't been reduced at all since we started this war.
 
Originally posted by: Xavier434
Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

^^This is an example of people forgetting. ^^

Ofcourse you don't believe we've stopped them, you only seem to believe what you want.
We've had a few domestic nuts. Always have had, always will have.

You can make a case that the "post 9/11" way isn't working? Oh please do share why you think our approach to terrrorism isn't working.... The '93 issue does not it isn't working and the other is just your opinion on the war.


Question for you(and any of the trolls who wish to actually do something besides trolling) - Should we go arrest OBL and prosecute him in our courtroom?
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I'll bite. How about the news stories that I read every single week about another terrorist act being committed over there? I don't know if you have noticed, but the rate at which those stories come rolling in hasn't been reduced at all since we started this war.
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"over there"? Where are you talking about?
 
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