Obamas rating plummet

[Arkaign]

Originally posted by: Duwelon

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: Duwelon
those that voted for said libs deserve what they're going to get because they'll never learn otherwise.

Learned enough to know that voting for Republicans sure wasn't the answer.

Depends what "the answer" is. Every liberal run state is a cesspool at the moment compared. The people that elected left leaning politicians get to suffer the consequences of their failed policies. What do they do then? Well, depends how good the blame game is played by the left, which so far is pretty damn good but there is indication that even the left can't keep pegging everythign bad on Republicans anymore.

I live in Texas, a heavily-Republican state, and it's a cesspool as well. The Republican-dominated states are either sparsely populated, or they're violent and corrupt cesspools JUST like the Democrat-dominated states.

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: Duwelon

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: Duwelon
those that voted for said libs deserve what they're going to get because they'll never learn otherwise.

Learned enough to know that voting for Republicans sure wasn't the answer.

Depends what "the answer" is. Every liberal run state is a cesspool at the moment compared. The people that elected left leaning politicians get to suffer the consequences of their failed policies. What do they do then? Well, depends how good the blame game is played by the left, which so far is pretty damn good but there is indication that even the left can't keep pegging everythign bad on Republicans anymore.

Just imagine the economy of your state if it weren't for all the Federal money coming form those so called Liberal States. States like yours are the biggest recipients of Federal Welfare not the so-called Liberal States. If it weren't for Missile Silos, Mt Rushmore and Sturgis your state would have absolutely nothing to offer.

 

[CrackRabbit]

Originally posted by: BarrySotero
A degenerated population is the cause of this.

Funny the only degenerate I see around here is you.

Ok maybe you and Duwelon.

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: CrackRabbit

Originally posted by: BarrySotero
A degenerated population is the cause of this.

Funny the only degenerate I see around here is you.

Ok maybe you and Duwelon.

If it weren't for the Internet nobody would even know they existed..well besides their parents.

 

[Duwelon]

Originally posted by: Arkaign

Originally posted by: Duwelon

Originally posted by: themusgrat
I'll be honest. As a conservative, I was excited to see Obama take office. I always had the inkling that he was way too inexperienced to really do well at being President, but let's face it, he touted change, and a new America, at the time we've most needed it in decades. Obama truly had the chance to be one of America's most epic and loved Presidents of all time, he really did. If he had done alot of the things he had promised, he would have completely won me over, and I'd suspect many others that are more moderate. So while you're right that he didn't deliver near what he promised, and obviously ratings drop for that, I can't see how anyone would have known to not vote for him. His campaign was exactly what the public wanted to hear. It's a shame it turns out he isn't the same person that he was in the campaign, I don't really see why he wouldn't be to be honest, he really had his opportunity.

Republicans cannot be elected when they're honest about who they are. They're activists disguised and the real shame is that American's aren't revolting yet against the POS Republicans in office who are pissing our future as a country away. Not all bad, but mark my words, you cannot blame Democrats (read: liberals) for any of the BS that's gone down the last 6 years. Cons lied to get elected by making promises they never intended to keep and sadly, those that voted for said cons deserve what they're going to get because they'll never learn otherwise.

Fixed, and equally one-sidedly applicable for the fiasco of total Republican control from '00 - '06.

If you think Republican politicians on the national scene are any less of a sack of shit that the Democrats are, then you'll need to check with a reputable physician to see if there's anything in your skull but water.

2 parties of trash, that's what we've got, and what we're going to have for the foreseeable future. They *THRIVE* on keeping us distracted with partisan wars, all the while sucking down PAC money, bribes, kickbacks, and self-voted pay raises. Bush, Obama, Clinton, Kerry, Gore, McCain, they're interchangeable figureheads for the nature of evil.

During 2000 - 2006, the Republicans couldn't get much passed because their majority was slim, not to mention the RINO's that no conservative would miss if they got voted out tomorrow.

The problem with the 2 party system is that right now, at best, the Republicans are the lesser of 2 evils. Democrats have socialist, communist tendancies and the current administration and congress are putting their activist plans into overdrive.

If you are a person who loves freedom from overreaching government control, there is no possible way you could be sane and still vote for a Democrat if there is a conservative republican or independant on the ticket as well.

Hey, there's rumors that Palin could form a new party. Even if it's not the party you want, you should throw your support behind it because if there could be 3 parties, there could be 4, 5, 6, etc.

 

[alphatarget1]

Originally posted by: sandorski

6 months, major legislation weeks from passing.

Major legislation that will bankrupt America and stick the next generation the bill. That's change!

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: alphatarget1

Originally posted by: sandorski

6 months, major legislation weeks from passing.

Major legislation that will bankrupt America and stick the next generation the bill. That's change!

Oh the next generation wasn't going to be stuck with the bill before Obama?

 

[Duwelon]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: Duwelon

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: Duwelon
those that voted for said libs deserve what they're going to get because they'll never learn otherwise.

Learned enough to know that voting for Republicans sure wasn't the answer.

Depends what "the answer" is. Every liberal run state is a cesspool at the moment compared. The people that elected left leaning politicians get to suffer the consequences of their failed policies. What do they do then? Well, depends how good the blame game is played by the left, which so far is pretty damn good but there is indication that even the left can't keep pegging everythign bad on Republicans anymore.

Just imagine the economy of your state if it weren't for all the Federal money coming form those so called Liberal States. States like yours are the biggest recipients of Federal Welfare not the so-called Liberal States. If it weren't for Missile Silos, Mt Rushmore and Sturgis your state would have absolutely nothing to offer.

Uhh, ever heard of agriculture? Good Lord...

 

[Duwelon]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: alphatarget1

Originally posted by: sandorski

6 months, major legislation weeks from passing.

Major legislation that will bankrupt America and stick the next generation the bill. That's change!

Oh the next generation wasn't going to be stuck with the bill before Obama?

The bill had a few less 0's. Seriously, do you even think before hitting "auto defend gotta post reply" button?

 

[Vette73]

Originally posted by: Slick5150
Wow. This isn't a troll thread at all!

And a repost.


Mods please lock/merge with the other troll thread.

 

[JayhaVVKU]

Originally posted by: Duwelon

Originally posted by: Arkaign

Originally posted by: Duwelon

Originally posted by: themusgrat
I'll be honest. As a conservative, I was excited to see Obama take office. I always had the inkling that he was way too inexperienced to really do well at being President, but let's face it, he touted change, and a new America, at the time we've most needed it in decades. Obama truly had the chance to be one of America's most epic and loved Presidents of all time, he really did. If he had done alot of the things he had promised, he would have completely won me over, and I'd suspect many others that are more moderate. So while you're right that he didn't deliver near what he promised, and obviously ratings drop for that, I can't see how anyone would have known to not vote for him. His campaign was exactly what the public wanted to hear. It's a shame it turns out he isn't the same person that he was in the campaign, I don't really see why he wouldn't be to be honest, he really had his opportunity.

Republicans cannot be elected when they're honest about who they are. They're activists disguised and the real shame is that American's aren't revolting yet against the POS Republicans in office who are pissing our future as a country away. Not all bad, but mark my words, you cannot blame Democrats (read: liberals) for any of the BS that's gone down the last 6 years. Cons lied to get elected by making promises they never intended to keep and sadly, those that voted for said cons deserve what they're going to get because they'll never learn otherwise.

Fixed, and equally one-sidedly applicable for the fiasco of total Republican control from '00 - '06.

If you think Republican politicians on the national scene are any less of a sack of shit that the Democrats are, then you'll need to check with a reputable physician to see if there's anything in your skull but water.

2 parties of trash, that's what we've got, and what we're going to have for the foreseeable future. They *THRIVE* on keeping us distracted with partisan wars, all the while sucking down PAC money, bribes, kickbacks, and self-voted pay raises. Bush, Obama, Clinton, Kerry, Gore, McCain, they're interchangeable figureheads for the nature of evil.

During 2000 - 2006, the Republicans couldn't get much passed because their majority was slim, not to mention the RINO's that no conservative would miss if they got voted out tomorrow.

The problem with the 2 party system is that right now, at best, the Republicans are the lesser of 2 evils. Democrats have socialist, communist tendancies and the current administration and congress are putting their activist plans into overdrive.

If you are a person who loves freedom from overreaching government control, there is no possible way you could be sane and still vote for a Democrat if there is a conservative republican or independant on the ticket as well.

Hey, there's rumors that Palin could form a new party. Even if it's not the party you want, you should throw your support behind it because if there could be 3 parties, there could be 4, 5, 6, etc.

The Palin Party! A place where free thinking, tough as nails, get er done, hockey moms can finally come together!

Your post, sir, made me LOL and probably not for the reasons you intended.

"socialist, communist tendancies" - Awesome.

 

[Duwelon]

Originally posted by: Marlin1975

Originally posted by: Slick5150
Wow. This isn't a troll thread at all!

And a repost.


Mods please lock/merge with the other troll thread.

You're almost dishonest enough to have some responsibilities around here. Remember kids, it's only worth posting if it's about a religious guy blowing up an abortion clinic or a fuzzy story about how Obama saved a life today!

 

[Fern]

Originally posted by: eskimospy

Originally posted by: Fern

Originally posted by: Specop 007
-snip-
On his first day in office he came in with 44% "strongly approve", with only 16% at "Strongly disapprove". In less then 6 months hes sitting at 28% "strongly approve" while 36% "Strongly disapprove".

Looks like a -35% or so swing in the Presidential Approval Index (see the 1st column of the chart)

Interesting, and no doubt of concern to the WH. This might make some of Obama's intiatives more difficult to pass in Congress.

They have another poll showing that the economy is the #1 concern, I wonder if that's why we now hear talk of another stimulus?

To some extent this (declining approval ratings) is to be expected, the 'honeymoon' doesn't last forever; still this drop is faster than most thought.

I'd like to see some other polls to compare.

Fern

Rasmussen's polls are outliers as compared to every other firm. The 'honeymoon period' is defined by the amount of time a president's poll numbers stay above 60% on average between all polls. The average 'honeymoon period' is about 7 months... and we're at about 6 months now. Among all polls Obama is right at about 60% now, and he's been dropping on average by about 1% a month, which should make his honeymoon period end at... you guessed it, 7 months. So no, the drop is exactly in line with what people should have thought. (actually it's probably slower than I would have guessed considering the hole our country is in right now)

SHOCKING.

Don't think so, esky; looks like the honeymoon is over:

CBS Poll

President Obama's approval rating has fallen six points in the past month, a new CBS News poll finds, amid growing skepticism about his handling of the economy and questions about the impact of the stimulus package.

The president's current approval rating, which is 57 percent, is still relatively high. But it has fallen 11 points from its peak of 68 percent in April, and has also dropped since last month's mark of 63 percent. His disapproval rating, meanwhile, has risen from 23 percent in April to 32 percent today.

Oddly enough, this poll says approval among Repubs has risen, a 7 point increase? (or his numbers would look even worse).


Gallup Poll

In addition to monthly averages, Gallup reports Obama's job approval rating at Gallup.com each day, based on three-day rolling averages. Obama reached a new administration low of 56% for July 5-7; his approval average is one point higher at 57% for the latest three-day period, July 6-8

I think rising unemployment, lack of any measurable benefit from the stim bill and huge spending are causing this drop, Unless this changes I think it looks bad for UHC and cap-n-trade.

Fern

 

[Duwelon]

Originally posted by: JayhaVVKU

Originally posted by: Duwelon

Originally posted by: Arkaign

Originally posted by: Duwelon

Originally posted by: themusgrat
I'll be honest. As a conservative, I was excited to see Obama take office. I always had the inkling that he was way too inexperienced to really do well at being President, but let's face it, he touted change, and a new America, at the time we've most needed it in decades. Obama truly had the chance to be one of America's most epic and loved Presidents of all time, he really did. If he had done alot of the things he had promised, he would have completely won me over, and I'd suspect many others that are more moderate. So while you're right that he didn't deliver near what he promised, and obviously ratings drop for that, I can't see how anyone would have known to not vote for him. His campaign was exactly what the public wanted to hear. It's a shame it turns out he isn't the same person that he was in the campaign, I don't really see why he wouldn't be to be honest, he really had his opportunity.

Republicans cannot be elected when they're honest about who they are. They're activists disguised and the real shame is that American's aren't revolting yet against the POS Republicans in office who are pissing our future as a country away. Not all bad, but mark my words, you cannot blame Democrats (read: liberals) for any of the BS that's gone down the last 6 years. Cons lied to get elected by making promises they never intended to keep and sadly, those that voted for said cons deserve what they're going to get because they'll never learn otherwise.

Fixed, and equally one-sidedly applicable for the fiasco of total Republican control from '00 - '06.

If you think Republican politicians on the national scene are any less of a sack of shit that the Democrats are, then you'll need to check with a reputable physician to see if there's anything in your skull but water.

2 parties of trash, that's what we've got, and what we're going to have for the foreseeable future. They *THRIVE* on keeping us distracted with partisan wars, all the while sucking down PAC money, bribes, kickbacks, and self-voted pay raises. Bush, Obama, Clinton, Kerry, Gore, McCain, they're interchangeable figureheads for the nature of evil.

During 2000 - 2006, the Republicans couldn't get much passed because their majority was slim, not to mention the RINO's that no conservative would miss if they got voted out tomorrow.

The problem with the 2 party system is that right now, at best, the Republicans are the lesser of 2 evils. Democrats have socialist, communist tendancies and the current administration and congress are putting their activist plans into overdrive.

If you are a person who loves freedom from overreaching government control, there is no possible way you could be sane and still vote for a Democrat if there is a conservative republican or independant on the ticket as well.

Hey, there's rumors that Palin could form a new party. Even if it's not the party you want, you should throw your support behind it because if there could be 3 parties, there could be 4, 5, 6, etc.

The Palin Party! A place where free thinking, tough as nails, get er done, hockey moms can finally come together!

Your post, sir, made me LOL and probably not for the reasons you intended.

"socialist, communist tendancies" - Awesome.

You must have taken notes from eskimospy. LIke him, you probably consider that tripe a valid "retort". Glad you liked the joke, i know my audience so i'm sure you're int he solid majority, but if you dont think the left has socialist communist tendancies, you're completely ignorant.

 

[fskimospy]

Originally posted by: Fern

Don't think so, esky; looks like the honeymoon is over:

CBS Poll

President Obama's approval rating has fallen six points in the past month, a new CBS News poll finds, amid growing skepticism about his handling of the economy and questions about the impact of the stimulus package.

The president's current approval rating, which is 57 percent, is still relatively high. But it has fallen 11 points from its peak of 68 percent in April, and has also dropped since last month's mark of 63 percent. His disapproval rating, meanwhile, has risen from 23 percent in April to 32 percent today.

Oddly enough, this poll says approval among Repubs has risen, a 7 point increase? (or his numbers would look even worse).


Gallup Poll

In addition to monthly averages, Gallup reports Obama's job approval rating at Gallup.com each day, based on three-day rolling averages. Obama reached a new administration low of 56% for July 5-7; his approval average is one point higher at 57% for the latest three-day period, July 6-8

I think rising unemployment, lack of any measurable benefit from the stim bill and huge spending are causing this drop, Unless this changes I think it looks bad for UHC and cap-n-trade.

Fern

You do realize that Obama's approval was back to 60% yesterday according to Gallup, right? Even if you were right, it would be very odd indeed for you to think that a presidential approval rating in the high 50's would be bad for his policies.

Health care is a done deal. I give the bill's odds for passage with the public option intact a greater than 90% chance. (thank god for that, eh?) Cap and trade is a bit murkier, but the odds are still very much in its favor.

 

[MovingTarget]

Originally posted by: Slick5150
Wow. This isn't a troll thread at all!

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: Duwelon

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: alphatarget1

Originally posted by: sandorski

6 months, major legislation weeks from passing.

Major legislation that will bankrupt America and stick the next generation the bill. That's change!

Oh the next generation wasn't going to be stuck with the bill before Obama?

The bill had a few less 0's. Seriously, do you even think before hitting "auto defend gotta post reply" button?

Just pointing out the fact Wingnut that no matter which party was in power now the future generations would be saddled with increased debt and the difference wouldn't be that much different no matter if it was McCani or Obama as President. Of course you didn't take that into consideration before you hit the "whine like a little bitch" replay button.

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: Duwelon

Originally posted by: Marlin1975

Originally posted by: Slick5150
Wow. This isn't a troll thread at all!

And a repost.


Mods please lock/merge with the other troll thread.

You're almost dishonest enough to have some responsibilities around here. Remember kids, it's only worth posting if it's about a religious guy blowing up an abortion clinic or a fuzzy story about how Obama saved a life today!

Seems most of the threads are created by hair on fire alarmists like you.

 

[Fern]

Originally posted by: eskimospy

Originally posted by: Fern
-snip-

You do realize that Obama's approval was back to 60% yesterday according to Gallup, right? Even if you were right, it would be very odd indeed for you to think that a presidential approval rating in the high 50's would be bad for his policies.

Health care is a done deal. I give the bill's odds for passage with the public option intact a greater than 90% chance. (thank god for that, eh?) Cap and trade is a bit murkier, but the odds are still very much in its favor.

It's not that they're in the 50's, it's that they are trending down and the concern (or one of the primary ones) is spending. Politicians don't like being on the wrong side of polling trends - and this is where the Blue Dogs may come into play. The Blue Dog from my district (Shuler) is getting hammered here for his vote in support of cap-n-trade, he's had to publish letters in the newspaper to defend himself and so far it ain't working.

I'd expect the number to fluctuate a bit up & down, that's why there's a margin of error. However, the trend clearly indicates downward.

I think UHC is still months out, so we'll have to see what the polls look like until then.

Fern

 

[JayhaVVKU]

You all realize that he's been in office for about 6 months right? The economy especially is not something that can be resurrected overnight after the damage that's been inflicted over the past 8+ years.

 

[fskimospy]

Originally posted by: Fern

Originally posted by: eskimospy

Originally posted by: Fern
-snip-

You do realize that Obama's approval was back to 60% yesterday according to Gallup, right? Even if you were right, it would be very odd indeed for you to think that a presidential approval rating in the high 50's would be bad for his policies.

Health care is a done deal. I give the bill's odds for passage with the public option intact a greater than 90% chance. (thank god for that, eh?) Cap and trade is a bit murkier, but the odds are still very much in its favor.

It's not that they're in the 50's, it's that they are trending down and the concern (or one of the primary ones) is spending. Politicians don't like being on the wrong side of polling trends - and this is where the Blue Dogs may come into play. The Blue Dog from my district (Shuler) is getting hammered here for his vote in support of cap-n-trade, he's had to publish letters in the newspaper to defend himself and so far it ain't working.

I'd expect the number to fluctuate a bit up & down, that's why there's a margin of error. However, the trend clearly indicates downward.

I think UHC is still months out, so we'll have to see what the polls look like until then.

Fern

And what I'm telling you is that presidential polling trends are almost always downwards at this time in office.

 

[CPA]

Originally posted by: Slick5150
Wow. This isn't a troll thread at all!

Just as much as all of the Bush poll threads, right.

 

[fskimospy]

Originally posted by: CPA

Originally posted by: Slick5150
Wow. This isn't a troll thread at all!

Just as much as all of the Bush poll threads, right.

Bush has some of the lowest approval ratings ever recorded by a president in the history of polling. He also had some of the most enduring unpopularity in American history. That seems pretty notable to me.

Obama's polls dropping in the same manner as nearly every single other president? Not so notable.

 

[Steeplerot]

Originally posted by: Duwelon
Democrats have socialist, communist tendancies and the current administration and congress are putting their activist plans into overdrive.

From a Socialist: calling Dems Commies or Socialist is fscking retarded, please learn wth you are talking about and lay off the talk radio crap, it rots what few brain cells you have left after the endless braindead outrage and fake anger.

Here's a hint: The Dems have NEVER been a ally of Socialism or the worldwide revoloution. EVER.

 

[soccerballtux]

Originally posted by: eskimospy

Originally posted by: CPA

Originally posted by: Slick5150
Wow. This isn't a troll thread at all!

Just as much as all of the Bush poll threads, right.

Bush has some of the lowest approval ratings ever recorded by a president in the history of polling. He also had some of the most enduring unpopularity in American history. That seems pretty notable to me.

Obama's polls dropping in the same manner as nearly every single other president? Not so notable.

Regardless of troll or not, I find P&N a great link aggregater for all things economic and political.