Obama's nanny the tranny

[Greenman]

What the fuck?!

I have mental health problems, I am mentally ill. There is no reason whatsoever that I cannot take care of a child.

It's like saying "Would you let someone with diabetes look after your child" It's a moronic statement to make, it's intolerance like this that make problems for those with mental illnesses. For shame.

It all depends on what the problem is Hal. I don't think I'd want an epileptic taking care of an infant, nor someone with anger management issues.

 

[HAL9000]

It all depends on what the problem is Hal. I don't think I'd want an epileptic taking care of an infant, nor someone with anger management issues.

Agreed. Which is why I said you can't write off an entire subset of people with a statement like "I wouldn't employ some one with a mental illness" when there are such a huge variety of mental illnesses.

 

[WHAMPOM]

http://news.yahoo.com/ap-exclusive-obamas-transgender-ex-nanny-outcast-070907242.html

This pretty much proves his mother was a nutcase lefty to an extreme degree. People can claim to accept these people all they want but seriously how many of even those people who accept them would choose to have them helping to raise their child? Surely there were plenty of other nannies around that could also cook and would have been nice to the kid, it makes it look like she chose this man/woman in part because they were transgender and that is nuts.

Thank you for posting, for while you remained silent there was doubt, but now you have removed it.

 

[umbrella39]

Every once in awhile it's nice to see a post where the author reveals much more about himself than he does about the news he's bringing in.

Thanks for letting us know that you're a horrible person by thinking that someone hiring a transgender person would make you a 'nutcase'.

Already on ignore list.

 

[umbrella39]

I think Spidey is posting under an alias.

Which one?

 

[werepossum]

Really it all depends on what the illness is. Clearly a schizophrenic would make a terrible nanny, but sleep disorders and phobias are types of mental illness as well. Depending on severity I really wouldn't have an issue with my nanny grinding her teeth at night or her being scared of heights.

I agree with that, but HAL's statement was "Mental illness does not make you a less capable parent / baby sitter / president / doctor or (x)." If you consider mental illness in the aggregate, then clearly it does. If you break out mental illness into categories and subcategories, then you'd have some people diagnosed with mental illness who function at a level almost indistinguishable from those without mental illness and some who are a constant danger to themselves and others. But making a blanket statement that mental illness does not make you a less capable parent / baby sitter / president / doctor or whatever is just wrong, because clearly in many circumstances it does. And it implies that having mental illness or not is not an acceptable issue when hiring, but rather something like skin color, so that it's impolite if not unethical to consider it.

In reality, anyone considering hiring a person with mental illness needs to carefully consider the type and severity of the mental illness in conjunction with the job.

 

[rpanic]

This is why Obama’s birth certificate is a fake; he was really born a woman. Obama’s mother knew he would never amount to anything being a Black Muslim woman and after meeting Evie concocted the idea of the transformation that is now the Obama we know.

 

[Jhhnn]

The very article states every doubts the transgendered person had any confluence on forming Obama' character.

If your child gets baptized by a pedophile priest, will they always grow up perverted?

Well, several of our friends describe themselves as "Recovering Catholics"...

 

[HAL9000]

I agree with that, but HAL's statement was "Mental illness does not make you a less capable parent / baby sitter / president / doctor or (x)." If you consider mental illness in the aggregate, then clearly it does. If you break out mental illness into categories and subcategories, then you'd have some people diagnosed with mental illness who function at a level almost indistinguishable from those without mental illness and some who are a constant danger to themselves and others. But making a blanket statement that mental illness does not make you a less capable parent / baby sitter / president / doctor or whatever is just wrong, because clearly in many circumstances it does. And it implies that having mental illness or not is not an acceptable issue when hiring, but rather something like skin color, so that it's impolite if not unethical to consider it.

In reality, anyone considering hiring a person with mental illness needs to carefully consider the type and severity of the mental illness in conjunction with the job.

As you need to with what sort of person they are, mental illness by itself does not necessarily make you a words (x), it can, but then so can your sexual preferences or your addiction to chocolate or your favourite shoes... It's less relevant than your personality characteristics.

 

[werepossum]

This is why Obama’s birth certificate is a fake; he was really born a woman. Obama’s mother knew he would never amount to anything being a Black Muslim woman and after meeting Evie concocted the idea of the transformation that is now the Obama we know.

LOL +1

As you need to with what sort of person they are, mental illness by itself does not necessarily make you a words (x), it can, but then so can your sexual preferences or your addiction to chocolate or your favourite shoes... It's less relevant than your personality characteristics.

I disagree. The whole point of mental illness is that your mental faculties aren't working correctly. The kind of person you are may be irrelevant if your brain isn't functioning correctly. Someone with severe depression who kills a child might be a wonderful person when she isn't depressed. Someone with severe schizophrenia who kills a child because voices are telling him it's the only way to save the child might be someone willing to die to keep that child safe when thinking properly. Certainly not everything termed mental illness is significant in selecting a nanny, even to the point of competing with a tranny nanny, but to say mental illness should not be a factor in evaluating a potential nanny (or doctor, or President) is, well, insane.

I think we've obscured this point by adding so many marginal quirks under the banner of mental illness, but mental illness can easily be the most important determinant of how well you can be expected to do a job. That's not of course necessarily true, but it's certainly something that bears consideration.

 

[HAL9000]

LOL +1


I disagree. The whole point of mental illness is that your mental faculties aren't working correctly. The kind of person you are may be irrelevant if your brain isn't functioning correctly.

Your mental function is in someway impaired, but I'd rather employ someone with depression than someone who for example hates children...

Someone with severe depression who kills a child might be a wonderful person when she isn't depressed. Someone with severe schizophrenia who kills a child because voices are telling him it's the only way to save the child might be someone willing to die to keep that child safe when thinking properly. Certainly not everything termed mental illness is significant in selecting a nanny, even to the point of competing with a tranny nanny, but to say mental illness should not be a factor in evaluating a potential nanny (or doctor, or President) is, well, insane.

Extremes in human psychology exist in people who are ill and people who are not if you an extreme (x) it doesn't matter if that x is a mental health illness or a personality trait, it makes you unsuitable either way.

I think we've obscured this point by adding so many marginal quirks under the banner of mental illness, but mental illness can easily be the most important determinant of how well you can be expected to do a job. That's not of course always true, but it's certainly something that bears consideration.

It can easily be the most beneficial trait a person has to their job as well.

 

[Nebor]

They have a mental illness called Gender Identity Disorder, which is usually just the tip of the iceberg. Are you saying you would leave your children alone everyday with someone openly mentally ill? What kind of parent would you be?

You're a terrible human being.

 

[woolfe9999]

I've seen some stats on "mental illness" which suggest that it is highly prevalent. IIRC, about 22% of the adult population has a DSM classified "mental disorder" at a given time. Also IIRC more than 50% of all people will have one at one time or another during their lives. The whole discussion of "mental illness" is silly. It's how and in what way the person is "mentally ill."

 

[HAL9000]

I've seen some stats on "mental illness" which suggest that it is highly prevalent. IIRC, about 22% of the adult population has a DSM classified "mental disorder" at a given time. Also IIRC more than 50% of all people will have one at one time or another during their lives. The whole discussion of "mental illness" is silly. It's how and in what way the person is "mentally ill."

Agreed.

 

[theeedude]

Tranny scared and beaten back into the closet is is what religious right considers a success story of a "cure".

 

[feralkid]

This pretty much proves his mother was a nutcase lefty to an extreme degree. People can claim to accept these people all they want but seriously how many of even those people who accept them would choose to have them helping to raise their child? Surely there were plenty of other nannies around that could also cook and would have been nice to the kid, it makes it look like she chose this man/woman in part because they were transgender and that is nuts.

That's using the old Lizard Brain. Good job, OP.

 

[boomerang]

Mental illness does not make you a less capable parent / baby sitter / president / doctor or (x)

Even Schizophrenia?

As an individual with a Bipolar sibling, I'll tell you right now that she's not capable of raising a child. Even she recognized this and gave her ex husband custody. She's not capable of taking care of herself.

If it makes you feel good to think that you're normal by all means continue to feel that way. I think it's important that you get through each day using whatever form of justification it takes.

Just curious, what do you do for a living?

 

[Fern]

-snip-
as if he single-handedly went down to the nanny farm and picked out the tranny because "that's just how Barry rolls." You guys are insane.

lol

Fern

 

[HAL9000]

Even Schizophrenia?

My point was that you can't make the blanket statement "mental health problems mean you can't (x)" Because mental health problems are so varied. I know a schizophrenic who would make a wonderful mother, and I'm sure she will one day, equally I know a schizophrenic who can't leave his house...

As an individual with a Bipolar sibling, I'll tell you right now that she's not capable of raising a child. Even she recognized this and gave her ex husband custody. She's not capable of taking care of herself.

That's tragic but it's good that she had the fortitude to see that in herself

If it makes you feel good to think that you're normal by all means continue to feel that way. I think it's important that you get through each day using whatever form of justification it takes.

I'm not normal, I don't think I am, but I don't think that anyone is normal, I'm no more or less normal than anyone else in the world, I have bipolar disorder, and yes it does mean that somethings in life are very difficult for me, it means I will struggle and be unable to cope with some things that I undertake, but it doesn't mean I am inherently incapable purely because of my diagnosis.

Just curious, what do you do for a living?

I'm currently a student and I work part time at a cinema, I was working at an ISP full time as a network admin until last year, when I decided I wanted to go to university for the second time.

I've been with my partner 9 years now, (10 years in October) and I know (as much as anyone can) that i'll make a good father, am I perfect? No, will I find some things more difficult as a parent than others would? Yes, but I'm not incapable purely because of my illness, it doesn't define me, and it's made me a stronger person.

 

[boochi]

Homosexuality is a mental disorder too, just like any other paraphilia.

 

[HAL9000]

Homosexuality is a mental disorder too, just like any other paraphilia.

Go away.