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Obamas illegal aliens gain access to federal benefits

seems like the plan is to overload the health care industry with new uninsured/unable to pay (nobody can pay lol) to the point that it's functioning as a universal health care system, so that "they" can say, see! it's already a universal health care system, everyone gets treated, nobody's paying!

so that the people who are irrationally against a universal health care system (because it's definitely irrational to oppose such a system after seeing how successful it is in every other supposed 1st world country it's utilized in (all of them.)

it sucks it has to be this way, but people are stubborn, and will cut off their noses to spite their faces.

next it will be a basic income gaurantee, as an alternative to the broken system we call "minimum wage guarantee," which again, works in other countries it's uitilized, and again, people will be ignorant and stubborn about the entire ordeal.
 
zanejohnson said:
seems like the plan is to overload the health care industry with new uninsured/unable to pay (nobody can pay lol) to the point that it's functioning as a universal health care system, so that "they" can say, see! it's already a universal health care system, everyone gets treated, nobody's paying!

so that the people who are irrationally against a universal health care system (because it's definitely irrational to oppose such a system after seeing how successful it is in every other supposed 1st world country it's utilized in (all of them.)

it sucks it has to be this way, but people are stubborn, and will cut off their noses to spite their faces.

next it will be a basic income gaurantee, as an alternative to the broken system we call "minimum wage guarantee," which again, works in other countries it's uitilized, and again, people will be ignorant and stubborn about the entire ordeal.
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so lets destroy the American system with illegals to prove libs right. brilliant plan.
 
michal1980 said:
so lets destroy the American system with illegals to prove libs right. brilliant plan.
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it has a neat little side effect of fixing the american health system. good for the goose, good for the gander.

or are we supposed to leave it broken to spite the democrats?
 
As usual the OP is an idiot. I guess he missed the part about you have to pay into social security to get social security.
 
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brycejones said:
As usual the OP is an idiot. I guess he missed the part about you have to pay into social security to get security.
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That was the first clue , the second clue was that zanjohnson was agreeing with him.

The third and final clue was this little tidbit from the article :

For those who work, that includes payroll taxes, also known as FICA taxes, because they are collected under the Federal Insurance Contributions Act.

The tax payments are usually split between employer and employee and include 12.4 percent collected to pay for Social Security, as well as 2.9 percent to pay for Medicare.

Federal law says that people who pay the taxes and are deemed “lawfully present in the United States” can collect benefits under those programs when they become eligible. They may also receive survivor and disability benefits.
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In the short run, he said, it could help the programs’ balance sheets because so many immigrants are still young and would not be drawing benefits.

“The great thing about immigrants, with respect to entitlements, is you get the young worker and you don’t get the young person’s parents,” Shapiro said.

But over the longer haul, he added, they are likely to draw more out of the system than they contribute — as is the case with nearly every Medicare recipient and with many Social Security recipients who worked low-paying jobs.
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That's all over michaels tiny little head of course.
 
ivwshane said:
That was the first clue , the second clue was that zanjohnson was agreeing with him.

The third and final clue was this little tidbit from the article :





That's all over michaels tiny little head of course.
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once again your an idiot that missed the most important part:

"they are likely to draw more out of the system than they contribute "

outside of course the fact these people aren't supposed to be here.
 
michal1980 said:
once again your an idiot that missed the most important part:

"they are likely to draw more out of the system than they contribute "

outside of course the fact these people aren't supposed to be here.
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That's the design of SS. It has nothing to do with the EO. If you don't like it, vote to cut SS for the poor in the next election. Hopefully Paul Ryan is running for you.
 
michal1980 said:
once again your an idiot that missed the most important part:

"they are likely to draw more out of the system than they contribute "

outside of course the fact these people aren't supposed to be here.
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I even quoted the relevant part for your ignorant ass and you still don't fucking get it!
 
You must be a bit reading impaired; people who pay their payroll taxes (FICA i.e. Medicare & SS) should be able to use those programs when they hit the eligible age of (I believe at earliest) 62.

This is a complete no-brainer, and frankly you have to be a bit stupid to think it's sensible to have anyone pay their payroll taxes and not be able to draw on them. That's the whole point, lol.
 
ivwshane said:
I even quoted the relevant part for your ignorant ass and you still don't fucking get it!
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Being ideologically opposed, he can't get it. The fact that he believes what he believes indicates that he was incapable in the first place. Truthiness rules his intellect.
 
michal1980 said:
once again your an idiot that missed the most important part:

"they are likely to draw more out of the system than they contribute "
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And what happened to
as is the case with nearly every Medicare recipient and with many Social Security recipients who worked low-paying jobs.
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?

Oh, I know what happened. What happened is that you're a moron, and combining the meanings of two consecutive phrases from the same sentence is beyond your powers of comprehension.
 
The sky is falling and it's falling as a rain of illegals. Millions of hungry brown hands reaching for my pocket book. And look at me. I have so little.
 
michal1980 said:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...1caefe-74d4-11e4-bd1b-03009bd3e984_story.html

Boom. Called it.

Break into the country get Medicare and social security for free. Talk about a great deal. More illegals should come, maybe Obama will let them stay too.


Up next, Obamacare for illegals.
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LOL You're not the only one who called it but yeah this was going to be part of the end game. Of course the leftist here denied it for years but anyone paying attention knows this is the game plan to justify the expansion of government in the US.
 
DucatiMonster696 said:
LOL You're not the only one who called it but yeah this was going to be part of the end game. Of course the leftist here denied it for years but anyone paying attention knows this is the game plan to justify the expansion of government in the US.
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Now they are out attacking and bullying me like the little asshats they are. Because I dont conform to their twisted world view.
 
ivwshane said:
I even quoted the relevant part for your ignorant ass and you still don't fucking get it!
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your the one that doesn't get it.

Your president just granted welfare to illegals. IE stealing from american tax payers and giving it to people that should not be here.
 
michal1980 said:
your the one that doesn't get it.

Your president just granted welfare to illegals. IE stealing from american tax payers and giving it to people that should not be here.
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He should be impeached, I scream, to the benign indifference of the universe. Oh, the impotency of rage. It's not fair.
 
I totally get why Michael is scared about this whole immigrant issue and them taking the low paying jobs, it's because he know that his job could easily be done by a non English speaking foreigner.

Once again the forum idiot michael1980 shows his ignorance (actually it's his stupidity), by calling services people pay into, "welfare".
 
ivwshane said:
I totally get why Michael is scared about this whole immigrant issue and them taking the low paying jobs, it's because he know that his job could easily be done by a non English speaking foreigner.

Once again the forum idiot michael1980 shows his ignorance (actually it's his stupidity), by calling services people pay into, "welfare".
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when you dont pay for it, what would you call it?
 
ivwshane said:
I totally get why Michael is scared about this whole immigrant issue and them taking the low paying jobs, it's because he know that his job could easily be done by a non English speaking foreigner.

Once again the forum idiot michael1980 shows his ignorance (actually it's his stupidity), by calling services people pay into, "welfare".
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Did you miss the part where they were paying Indians the minimum wage of their country to do coding work?

What do you do that puts you above this? What is it that makes you the 1%?
 
Eh for pay-in systems, who cares. Right now if they're paying taxes thru some stolen SSOC number, they don't get shit back.
 
Reagan gave amnesty to the illegals not because of the goodness of his heart but to help destroy the foundation of the democrat party, the middle class blue collar worker, both union and non union, and the dumbass democrats went along with,

The illegal as well as outsourcing is tool of the 1% to help knock down the middle class and unions who they feel threatened by,

and through NAFTA as well as other free trade programs and illegal immigration they have decimated the middle class and unions the backbone of the Democrat party because the democrat traitors want to eat at the same corporate pig trough as the republicans while pointing the finger at them.

What is truly sad is you phony, so called liberal democrats have been brainwashed into throwing the American tax paying middle class, your foundation, under the bus doing the bidding of the 1% while thinking you are on some noble cause,

and for those of you pretend liberal democrats that know this and don't care, just switch over to the republican party and kiss the hands of the Koch brothers or whatever flavor of republican party backers you hate,

You will still be an Asshole, but at least you will be an honest Asshole.
 
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