Obama's hypocrisy even too much for NBC to ignore.

[soulcougher73]

The media is heavily biased towards democrats/liberals. I dont understand how anyone can deny this

They just like to report the facts 😎

 

[sportage]

Chuck Todd? Give me a break...
God rest Tim Russert.

 

[fskimospy]

My favorite part about the media bias faithful is that their religion is impossible to refute with evidence. Media says something favorable about Obama? BIAS. Media attacks Obama? HE MUST BE THAT BAD THAT EVEN THE BIASED MEDIA ATTACKED HIM.

That's religion.

 

[etrigan420]

My favorite part about the media bias faithful is that their religion is impossible to refute with evidence. Media says something favorable about Obama? BIAS. Media attacks Obama? HE MUST BE THAT BAD THAT EVEN THE BIASED MEDIA ATTACKED HIM.

That's religion.

I find your lack of faith...disturbing...

 

[monovillage]

Here's an interesting article regarding a Pew study on media bias during the final week before the last election. But what the hell do I know...it's sure dark in here and it really stinks too! 😉

http://www.businessinsider.com/msnbc-bias-romney-obama-liberal-news-media-2012-11

MSNBC's Bias Against Mitt Romney Was Astonishing

No one really expects MSNBC's coverage to put a positive spin on Republicans — but in the final week of the 2012 presidential campaign, the network's coverage toward presidential nominee Mitt Romney skewed entirely negative.​

According to a new study by the Pew Research Center's Project for Excellence in Journalism, MSNBC provided no "positive" coverage of Romney during the campaign's final week. ​

Here's a look at the chart of polarization:​

​

By comparison, 57 percent of MSNBC's coverage toward Romney was negative during the first three weeks of October — and it did provide at least some positive coverage. Throughout the entirety of the campaign, the network's coverage was 68% negative. The rest of the combined news media's coverage of Romney, Pew found, was only 33 percent negative.​

Pew found that Fox News became similarly biased during the campaign's final week — though it was not as polarized as MSNBC. Only 5 percent of its Obama coverage was positive, while 56 percent was negative. This differed from the rest of the news media, which provided more positive coverage of the president during the Superstorm Sandy recovery efforts and as polls pointed to a definitive Obama victory.​

http://www.journalism.org/analysis_report/press_release_7​

BTW CK...this took 5 seconds to find.​

Nothing new, we all know the establishment press in this country is biased to the Democrats. Only a small handful of partisan lefties and Democrat shills even deny it anymore.

 

[Charles Kozierok]

Nothing new, we all know the establishment press in this country is biased to the Democrats.

MSNBC is not "the establishment press". It's a left-wing propaganda channel.

 

[monovillage]

MSNBC is not "the establishment press".

Of course it's part of the establishment press.
http://www.nbcnews.com/id/48180815/...s/t/msnbccom-becomes-nbcnewscom/#.UT9UITdu5aM

NBC News has acquired full control of msnbc.com and its digital network from Microsoft Corp. and is immediately rebranding the site as NBCNews.com.

and like I said only partisan lefties and Democrat shills defend them.
If the shoe fits........

 

[Incorruptible]

MSNBC is not "the establishment press". It's a left-wing propaganda channel.

msnbc is part of the establishment press and msm. It is horribly biased, dont you remember their coverage against republicans in November 2012

 

[Charles Kozierok]

and like I said only partisan lefties and Democrat shills defend them.
If the shoe fits........

I'm not "defending" them, you moron.

I'm saying that MSNBC, like Fox "News" Channel, is mostly an opinion-based network by design. It is not intended to be oriented around factual reporting, and it not comparable to legitimate news sources.

 

[Ldir]

Nothing new, we all know the establishment press in this country is biased to the Democrats. Only a small handful of partisan lefties and Democrat shills even deny it anymore.

We all know Republican shills know many things that are not true.

 

[Moonbeam]

The amazing thing is that science has established that conservative brains are motivationally biased to deny truth that makes their egos uncomfortable and that they deny this more and more powerfully as it is made more obvious to them. The result will be that this thread will only make this more obvious to folk who do not have this disease and the folk who have it more sure that they do not. This is a fact and no logical argument can prove it to the brain dead. We live among zombies and the walking dead.

This is a fact that is denied because it is unpleasant and because it is unpleasant is seen as a lying attack. Because the truth is seen as lies intended to harm them, the brain dead refuse all treatment and must remain brain dead. This is a fact that has been known for thousands of years but is now able to be proved by science. As Shakespeare said, 'A fool convinced against his will is of the same opinion still.' Truth has a liberal bias. But the conservative knows that he's not the one who is a fool because almost all scientists are liberals. Science is how liberals think. The blood sucking egotistical fuck heads are just along for the ride, happy their civilization they are in the process of destroying has made life comfy for them. Fortunately and with great amusement for some of us, they have begun to fracture and turn and devour themselves. When the ego comes under attack and the feeling of security of power starts to slip away, somebody must die and the firing squad has formed itself in a circle.

 

[PokerGuy]

MSNBC is not "the establishment press". It's a left-wing propaganda channel.

....... as is most of the "establishment press", so he's right. Unless your views align with the left wing, in which case you'd consider the main stream press unbiased 😉

 

[ivwshane]

....... as is most of the "establishment press", so he's right. Unless your views align with the left wing, in which case you'd consider the main stream press unbiased 😉

I wonder who has more viewers, right winged media or left winged media? Whoever has the most viewers wouldn't that be considered the mainstream/establishment media/press? Or is it an age thing.

Just trying to understand the mind of a righty.

 

[Charles Kozierok]

....... as is most of the "establishment press", so he's right.

And of course this assessment is made without any bias on your part, right?

Duh.

Fortunately, we have polling information that tells the tale.

Here's how moderates rate various news sources on trustworthiness (approve/disapprove):

CNN: 43/29
ABC: 39/29
CBS: 39/30
Comedy Central: 31/32
MSNBC: 40/32
NBC: 44/27
PBS: 66/16
Fox "News": 29/59

That's pretty much the whole ballgame right there: while mainstream media sources are not widely trusted, right-wingers are in their own little bubble, as usual. So you'll forgive me if I put your assessment of what is "mainstream" and what is "biased" in the compost heap where it belongs.

 

[Doc Savage Fan]

MSNBC: 40/32

nuff said

 

[Charles Kozierok]

MSNBC: 40/32

nuff said

Thanks. When I said the right was in its own little bubble, I couldn't have asked for a better demonstration -- simply ignore all of the data that you don't like.

 

[Doc Savage Fan]

Thanks. When I said the right was in its own little bubble, I couldn't have asked for a better demonstration -- simply ignore all of the data that you don't like.

So...which is it..."trustworthy" as indicated by the "data"or a left-wing propaganda channel? You seem to be talking out of both sides of your mouth.

MSNBC is not "the establishment press". It's a left-wing propaganda channel.

 

[Incorruptible]

And of course this assessment is made without any bias on your part, right?

Duh.

Fortunately, we have polling information that tells the tale.

Here's how moderates rate various news sources on trustworthiness (approve/disapprove):

CNN: 43/29
ABC: 39/29
CBS: 39/30
Comedy Central: 31/32
MSNBC: 40/32
NBC: 44/27
PBS: 66/16
Fox "News": 29/59

That's pretty much the whole ballgame right there: while mainstream media sources are not widely trusted, right-wingers are in their own little bubble, as usual. So you'll forgive me if I put your assessment of what is "mainstream" and what is "biased" in the compost heap where it belongs.

Those media channels are biased and not real news. As well you called msnbc propaganda and made the same claim for Fox

 

[Charles Kozierok]

So...which is it..."trustworthy" as indicated by the "data"or a left-wing propaganda channel? You seem to be talking out of both sides of your mouth.

What the hell are you talking about? It's a left-wing propaganda channel, IMO, which is nonetheless seen as a lot more trustworthy than Fox "News". How can my personal opinion be compared to a poll of many other people?

The larger point, which you are ignoring, is that the general assessment of the "mainstream media" as being "left-wing" by the right is because pretty much everyone on the right thinks their insular right-wing sources are the only ones that can be trusted -- and nobody else agrees.

Every time I turn on Sean Hannity he whines about "media bias" -- and then spends three hours on right-wing ranting. No intelligent person can take him seriously, nor his online equivalents like the right-wing mouthbreathers in this forum.

 

[Doc Savage Fan]

What the hell are you talking about? It's a left-wing propaganda channel, IMO, which is nonetheless seen as a lot more trustworthy than Fox "News". How can my personal opinion be compared to a poll of many other people?

I believe that the crediblity of your "data" is suspect...that's what the hell I'm talking about.

The larger point, which you are ignoring, is that the general assessment of the "mainstream media" as being "left-wing" by the right is because pretty much everyone on the right thinks their insular right-wing sources are the only ones that can be trusted -- and nobody else agrees.

I'm ignoring your "larger point" because that has absolutely nothing to do with the point I was making.

Every time I turn on Sean Hannity he whines about "media bias" -- and then spends three hours on right-wing ranting. No intelligent person can take him seriously, nor his online equivalents like the right-wing mouthbreathers in this forum.

What does this mini-rant have to do with me or what I've posted? Perhaps you should share your rants with someone who is capable of taking you seriously...as I'm having great difficulty.

 

[nehalem256]

What the hell are you talking about? It's a left-wing propaganda channel, IMO, which is nonetheless seen as a lot more trustworthy than Fox "News". How can my personal opinion be compared to a poll of many other people?

It is seen as essentially just as trustworthy as the mainstream news channels.

So either

(1) You are wrong about it being a left-wing propaganda channel

(2) The mainstream news channels are also left-wing propaganda channels

(3) The people in the poll don't know what they are talking about

take your pick.

 

[ivwshane]

I believe that the crediblity of your "data" is suspect...that's what the hell I'm talking about.



I'm ignoring your "larger point" because that has absolutely nothing to do with the point I was making.



What does this mini-rant have to do with me or what I've posted? Perhaps you should share your rants with someone who is capable of taking you seriously...as I'm having great difficulty.

You posted like four words and you expect everyone to know what your point was?


You have a problem with the data posted? Fine, then counter it with your own data and why it's more trust worthy. Until then all you are doing is expressing your feelings, which quite frankly doesn't mean shit. Feeling that something is biased or wrong doesnt mean it is, put up or shut up.



Just because incorruptible is posting in this thread doesn't mean you need to lower yourself to his standards😉

 

[Doc Savage Fan]

You posted like four words and you expect everyone to know what your point was?

I would expect a reasonably intelligent person to understand the intent of that post. My bad.

You have a problem with the data posted? Fine, then counter it with your own data and why it's more trust worthy. Until then all you are doing is expressing your feelings, which quite frankly doesn't mean shit. Feeling that something is biased or wrong doesnt mean it is, put up or shut up.

I posted data regarding MSNBC previously in this thread. My above hypothesis remains unchallenged.

Just because incorruptible is posting in this thread doesn't mean you need to lower yourself to his standards😉

You sir have no room to talk.

 

[cybrsage]

just sayin', but isn't the NY Times supporting MSNBC kinda like getting a character reference from your mom? 😛

😀

 

[cybrsage]

The amazing thing is that science has established that conservative brains are motivationally biased to deny truth that makes their egos uncomfortable and that they deny this more and more powerfully as it is made more obvious to them.

I realize your broken genetics gives you the predisposition to say this over and over again, but I wonder if you are able to rise above your base self if you try.

Can you, or will you wallow in your self imposed darkness forever? I hope you find a way out of your own prison.