Obama's aunt appeals deportation order

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Capt Caveman

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Originally posted by: fallout man
Originally posted by: Capt Caveman
Originally posted by: fallout man
Originally posted by: Capt Caveman

She lost her appeal and has defied two court orders to leave the country. Time for the bitch to gtfo.

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Onyango came again to America on temporary visa in 2000 along with a son who had been accepted at a college in Boston.[16] Commercial databases show she received a Social Security card in 2001 indicating she was legally present in the country at that time.[6] Since 2003 she has been living in a South Boston public housing project, according to Boston Public Housing Authority (BHA) officials.[17] William McGonigle, deputy director of the Authority, noted Onyango did a good job as a public health advocate on behalf of the Boston Housing Authority.[17][18] She also works as a volunteer computer systems co-ordinator for the Experience Corps, a program in which adults over 55 mentor children in their communities.[1]

I don't know, man. She sounds like a nice old lady who makes an effort to contribute to the community. Sure, her visa expired, and she's here illegally. However, I sincerely wonder whether you're being a good citizen and also yelling at the "bitch" cooks at your local burrito place to "GTFO" as well.

I'm not suggesting that she should get preferential treatment solely because her relative is the president of the United States, though I'd like to point out that there are tens of thousands of immigration cases just like hers. If being "outed" for having a lapsed visa gets your water boiling this much, I would suggest that you use that energy to put your efforts where your mouth is, and picket that burrito place you love until they show you the work visas and the birth certificates of their employees. You're gonna be so upset, but you can bring along a paper bag to help with the hyperventilation and/or vomiting.

Can you provide me proof that the burrito worker is illegally in this country, been ordered to leave the country twice, lost her appeal and still allowed to live in government subsidized housing? Good job of ignoring the facts.

OH DEAR--IGNORING THEM FACTS IS SOMETHIN' AWFUL!!1

Edit: And dude, "'Burrito worker' is not the proper nomenclature. Mexican-American edible-wrap artist, please."

My reply to you asked whether you're just as heated about every other blatant violation of immigration law you encounter daily...

You get wicked upset about an old Kenyan lady, who volunteers in her community, over-staying her visa. My question for you was whether you're just as vocal and upset (and whether you're doing anything about it) regarding the really obvious immigration law violations most Americans encounter daily. Are you outraged because this woman is Obama's elderly aunt, or are you truly outraged about her violation of immigration rules?

Put your money where your mouth is, and do some investigative work on behalf of your fellow citizens. Go and find out whether your neighbor, or the guy who cooks your food, or the guy who cleans your apartment/office building is legal on paper. It's your duty as a citizen to investigate and report. Once you do all the investigative work, then you can make a post here and we'll all join you in being "truly outraged." Turn them in, dawg. It's the patriotic thing to do. Bitches need to GTFO.

Again, as I've mentioned in my last post, this woman's case is just like thousands of others. She isn't the o nly person over-staying her visa, threatened with deporation, and using legal channels to contest the situation.

You were eloquent enough to summarize the situation by asking "the bitch to GTFO." How uniformly do you apply that attitude to questionably legal people you meet every day. Mountain-folk like you don't deserve access to the internets.

:laugh: Living in the city, I'm mountain folk? You're just precious. Again, ignore the facts and two federal government orders of deportation and a failed appeal. The fact that she has taken housing away from qualified legal immigrants. If you don't believe in the law and this country, I suggest you leave.

"I don't deserve the internets" :laugh: If you're trying to be a comedian, I suggest you keep your day job.
 

mugs

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Originally posted by: Hacp
Also, why the hell is Marian Robinson living in the White House? She should be living in a hotel nearby. She's wasting taxpayer dollars. Enough of "I'm taking care of the children" BS. She just wants to live in a mansion paid for by you and me.

What taxpayer dollars? Obama has to pay for her food (and his family's). I suppose she gets free water, and maybe the electric bill is slightly. I'm sure Obama wouldn't mind paying for that water and electricity.

But who would take care of the kids if she wasn't there, and who would pay for that?
 

nobodyknows

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Originally posted by: Brainonska511
Originally posted by: nobodyknows
Originally posted by: geno
Originally posted by: nobodyknows

I guess the "fix" is in. I wonder if all of Obama's relaitives who came over for his Presidential Inaguaration are staying too?

How is the fix in? :confused: You are allowed to appeal the decision for removal (or as we refer to it, deportation). Talk to an immigration lawyer, this is not at all uncommon. You're grasping at straws.

She had her day in court and lost. What has changed except the fact that Obama has been elected POTUS?

The fix is in, only a blind Obamabot wouldn't see it.

Those people on death row had their day in court and lost. Are you saying they shouldn't be allowed to appeal?

Not once it's been proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that they're guilty.

Are you saying if they're related to the "right people" they should be able to appeal until they get the result they want?
 

nobodyknows

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Originally posted by: jpeyton
Originally posted by: Fear No Evil
Originally posted by: jpeyton
Obama is POTUS. Do you guys really think she'll get deported?

I hope Obama pulls some strings on her behalf.

Seems pretty typical. The same people who accused Bush of abuse of power now opening want Obama to do it.
If Bush's abuse of power was limited to allowing a relative to stay in the country, this country wouldn't be in the mess it's in today.

Is this a country of laws or do we just get to pick and choose the ones we like? If that's the case when Obama comes around and wants more money to pay for his programs I'll just tell him to kiss my ass.

 

nobodyknows

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Originally posted by: Barack Obama
Originally posted by: jpeyton
Cool. I hope she gets to stay here.

This echos my sentiments.

If she had a job instead of living off the taxpayer I probably wouldn't care, but if Obama is too cheap to support her then so am I!!!!
 

dawp

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Originally posted by: nobodyknows
Originally posted by: Brainonska511
Originally posted by: nobodyknows
Originally posted by: geno
Originally posted by: nobodyknows

I guess the "fix" is in. I wonder if all of Obama's relaitives who came over for his Presidential Inaguaration are staying too?

How is the fix in? :confused: You are allowed to appeal the decision for removal (or as we refer to it, deportation). Talk to an immigration lawyer, this is not at all uncommon. You're grasping at straws.

She had her day in court and lost. What has changed except the fact that Obama has been elected POTUS?

The fix is in, only a blind Obamabot wouldn't see it.

Those people on death row had their day in court and lost. Are you saying they shouldn't be allowed to appeal?

Not once it's been proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that they're guilty.

Are you saying if they're related to the "right people" they should be able to appeal until they get the result they want?

There have been people convicted and put on death row (supposedly beyond a shadow of a doubt) who were found to be innocent and set free after appeal.

it happens more often than I'm comfortable with.
 

Robor

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Originally posted by: nobodyknows
Originally posted by: Barack Obama
Originally posted by: jpeyton
Cool. I hope she gets to stay here.

This echos my sentiments.

If she had a job instead of living off the taxpayer I probably wouldn't care, but if Obama is too cheap to support her then so am I!!!!

You're a moron.
 

geno

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Originally posted by: eskimospy
Originally posted by: nobodyknows
Originally posted by: geno
Originally posted by: nobodyknows

I guess the "fix" is in. I wonder if all of Obama's relaitives who came over for his Presidential Inaguaration are staying too?

How is the fix in? :confused: You are allowed to appeal the decision for removal (or as we refer to it, deportation). Talk to an immigration lawyer, this is not at all uncommon. You're grasping at straws.

She had her day in court and lost. What has changed except the fact that Obama has been elected POTUS?

The fix is in, only a blind Obamabot wouldn't see it.

Do you know what an appeal is? That's what you do when you have your day in court and lose.

Seriously, are you that dense, nobodyknows? Someone very close to me just went through a similar situation, this is how it works. You're being paranoid and irrational. You're also just unfamiliar with just how many chances we give illegals to stay here.
 

jpeyton

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Originally posted by: nobodyknows
Originally posted by: jpeyton
Cool. I hope she gets to stay here.

Cool, your volunteering your spot? Buh-bye.
Nope, I'm volunteering your tax dollars. Cha ching.
 

mugs

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Originally posted by: nobodyknows
Originally posted by: geno
Originally posted by: nobodyknows

I guess the "fix" is in. I wonder if all of Obama's relaitives who came over for his Presidential Inaguaration are staying too?

How is the fix in? :confused: You are allowed to appeal the decision for removal (or as we refer to it, deportation). Talk to an immigration lawyer, this is not at all uncommon. You're grasping at straws.

She had her day in court and lost. What has changed except the fact that Obama has been elected POTUS?

The fix is in, only a blind Obamabot wouldn't see it.

I'm not a blind Obamabot. I didn't even vote for Obama. I gave a plausible explanation for the timing, you just didn't like it apparently.
 

nobodyknows

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Originally posted by: geno
Originally posted by: eskimospy
Originally posted by: nobodyknows
Originally posted by: geno
Originally posted by: nobodyknows

I guess the "fix" is in. I wonder if all of Obama's relaitives who came over for his Presidential Inaguaration are staying too?

How is the fix in? :confused: You are allowed to appeal the decision for removal (or as we refer to it, deportation). Talk to an immigration lawyer, this is not at all uncommon. You're grasping at straws.

She had her day in court and lost. What has changed except the fact that Obama has been elected POTUS?

The fix is in, only a blind Obamabot wouldn't see it.

Do you know what an appeal is? That's what you do when you have your day in court and lose.

Seriously, are you that dense, nobodyknows? Someone very close to me just went through a similar situation, this is how it works. You're being paranoid and irrational. You're also just unfamiliar with just how many chances we give illegals to stay here.

Someone comes to temporarily visit out country and then doesn't leave and ignores a judges orders to leave and you say I'm the dense one??? :laugh:

 

nobodyknows

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Originally posted by: mugs
Originally posted by: nobodyknows
Originally posted by: geno
Originally posted by: nobodyknows

I guess the "fix" is in. I wonder if all of Obama's relaitives who came over for his Presidential Inaguaration are staying too?

How is the fix in? :confused: You are allowed to appeal the decision for removal (or as we refer to it, deportation). Talk to an immigration lawyer, this is not at all uncommon. You're grasping at straws.

She had her day in court and lost. What has changed except the fact that Obama has been elected POTUS?

The fix is in, only a blind Obamabot wouldn't see it.

I'm not a blind Obamabot. I didn't even vote for Obama. I gave a plausible explanation for the timing, you just didn't like it apparently.

Why should she get to stay in the US and suck off the taxpayers teat? She has already been to see the judge and lost. Now she needs to go back home. She only came here for Obama's swearing in ceremony when he was elected US Senator. She is using the system and living off the US taxpayer and she has contributed NOTHING to our system.

If Obama hadn't been elected POTUS they would have sent her home on the next available plane. So how many more of Obama's Kenyan relatives should the US taxpayers support?
 

fskimospy

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Originally posted by: nobodyknows

Why should she get to stay in the US and suck off the taxpayers teat? She has already been to see the judge and lost. Now she needs to go back home. She only came here for Obama's swearing in ceremony when he was elected US Senator. She is using the system and living off the US taxpayer and she has contributed NOTHING to our system.

If Obama hadn't been elected POTUS they would have sent her home on the next available plane. So how many more of Obama's Kenyan relatives should the US taxpayers support?

She is exercising her legal right to appeal an adverse court decision. Do you agree with the right to appeal or not?
 

YoungGun21

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Originally posted by: Fear No Evil
Originally posted by: jpeyton
Obama is POTUS. Do you guys really think she'll get deported?

I hope Obama pulls some strings on her behalf.

Seems pretty typical. The same people who accused Bush of abuse of power now opening want Obama to do it.

You all realize what you're arguing about don't you.

Look at what 'abuse of powers' Bush did. Now compare that to this.

We already have thousands of illegals here, what is one more. Let her stay.
 

nobodyknows

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Originally posted by: eskimospy
Originally posted by: nobodyknows

Why should she get to stay in the US and suck off the taxpayers teat? She has already been to see the judge and lost. Now she needs to go back home. She only came here for Obama's swearing in ceremony when he was elected US Senator. She is using the system and living off the US taxpayer and she has contributed NOTHING to our system.

If Obama hadn't been elected POTUS they would have sent her home on the next available plane. So how many more of Obama's Kenyan relatives should the US taxpayers support?

She is exercising her legal right to appeal an adverse court decision. Do you agree with the right to appeal or not?

Not if the only reason she can appeal again is because her nephew is POTUS.

She's been living off the taxpayers and has contributed nothing to our system. Why should she get to stay? Give me some good reasons??
 

fskimospy

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Originally posted by: nobodyknows
Originally posted by: eskimospy
Originally posted by: nobodyknows

Why should she get to stay in the US and suck off the taxpayers teat? She has already been to see the judge and lost. Now she needs to go back home. She only came here for Obama's swearing in ceremony when he was elected US Senator. She is using the system and living off the US taxpayer and she has contributed NOTHING to our system.

If Obama hadn't been elected POTUS they would have sent her home on the next available plane. So how many more of Obama's Kenyan relatives should the US taxpayers support?

She is exercising her legal right to appeal an adverse court decision. Do you agree with the right to appeal or not?

Not if the only reason she can appeal again is because her nephew is POTUS.

She's been living off the taxpayers and has contributed nothing to our system. Why should she get to stay? Give me some good reasons??

Are you saying the method by which her appeal was granted is illegal or inappropriately applied? If so, please provide evidence. If you cannot do so, she should get to stay until her appeals are exhausted because that's the way the US judicial system works.
 

Robor

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Originally posted by: nobodyknows
Not if the only reason she can appeal again is because her nephew is POTUS.

She's been living off the taxpayers and has contributed nothing to our system. Why should she get to stay? Give me some good reasons??

Care to explain how she is 'living off the taxpayers and has contributed nothing to our system'? I'd love to see your proof of this statement.

 

ahurtt

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Originally posted by: YoungGun21
Originally posted by: Fear No Evil
Originally posted by: jpeyton
Obama is POTUS. Do you guys really think she'll get deported?

I hope Obama pulls some strings on her behalf.

Seems pretty typical. The same people who accused Bush of abuse of power now opening want Obama to do it.

You all realize what you're arguing about don't you.

Look at what 'abuse of powers' Bush did. Now compare that to this.

We already have thousands of illegals here, what is one more. Let her stay.

No. Better would be round them all up and ship them all out. They are foreign invaders. Make an example of her to make other potential invaders think twice. In fact, since she is related to our our nation's president it is even MORE important that she be made an example of. If she's not deported (assuming she has gone through her fair hearings and appeals etc. . .and still been found to be in violation of the law) and people think it's because she's related to the president, what kind of message does that send to the people? Remember, Obama has a LOT to live up to and a LOT of eyes on him. There is a lot riding on him and his historical presidency and I certainly do not envy him the pressure he must be under to set a shining example. Considering his predecessor and the legacy he's left to deal with, Obama cannot afford to get involved and intervene here. So where does this leave his aunt? Unfortunately for her, probably on the next plane back to where she came from to get back at the end of the line again hopefully having learned this time that cutting in is not acceptable. And we don't have thousands of illegals here already. It's more like 10's of millions (mostly Mexican due to geographical happenstance). Our immigration laws have already been made enough of a mockery of. By your logic, if somebody just knocked you to the ground and bludgeoned you 10 times with a baseball bat, you might as well lie there and let them pound you one more time cuz hey. . .why not huh? You alreay got 10 broken bones, what's 1 more?
 

nobodyknows

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Originally posted by: Robor
Originally posted by: nobodyknows
Not if the only reason she can appeal again is because her nephew is POTUS.

She's been living off the taxpayers and has contributed nothing to our system. Why should she get to stay? Give me some good reasons??

Care to explain how she is 'living off the taxpayers and has contributed nothing to our system'? I'd love to see your proof of this statement.
I'd love it even more if you could prove it wrong, but you can't.
 

fskimospy

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Originally posted by: nobodyknows
Originally posted by: Robor
Originally posted by: nobodyknows
Not if the only reason she can appeal again is because her nephew is POTUS.

She's been living off the taxpayers and has contributed nothing to our system. Why should she get to stay? Give me some good reasons??

Care to explain how she is 'living off the taxpayers and has contributed nothing to our system'? I'd love to see your proof of this statement.
I'd love it even more if you could prove it wrong, but you can't.

Wait, so now we have to DISPROVE your unsupported statements? That's ridiculous.

If I accuse you of being a child molester, is it my job to prove my allegations true, or your job to prove that you aren't?
 

EagleKeeper

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Originally posted by: eskimospy
Originally posted by: nobodyknows
Originally posted by: eskimospy
Originally posted by: nobodyknows

Why should she get to stay in the US and suck off the taxpayers teat? She has already been to see the judge and lost. Now she needs to go back home. She only came here for Obama's swearing in ceremony when he was elected US Senator. She is using the system and living off the US taxpayer and she has contributed NOTHING to our system.

If Obama hadn't been elected POTUS they would have sent her home on the next available plane. So how many more of Obama's Kenyan relatives should the US taxpayers support?

She is exercising her legal right to appeal an adverse court decision. Do you agree with the right to appeal or not?

Not if the only reason she can appeal again is because her nephew is POTUS.

She's been living off the taxpayers and has contributed nothing to our system. Why should she get to stay? Give me some good reasons??

Are you saying the method by which her appeal was granted is illegal or inappropriately applied? If so, please provide evidence. If you cannot do so, she should get to stay until her appeals are exhausted because that's the way the US judicial system works.
Her appeal was originally denied.
She went underground to avoid deportation.
When exposed, a court schedule a hearing again but a year from now.

1) When she was ordered to appear for deportation she refused. Her appeal was already denied
2) Courts do not override an rejected appeal 4 years later without special circumstances.
3) Deportation appeals are not scheduled out 12 months ahead of time.

#2 and #3 are due to special intervention/considerations that an average visa extender is not given.

WHY her?