Obama's atomic umbrella: U.S. nuclear strike if Iran nukes Israel

[Hayabusa Rider]

This isn't so much about protecting Israel as much as giving notice to Iran that using it's nukes will have very bad consequences. While in theory they might use then against another country it's not nearly as likely as an attack on Israel.

 

[JEDIYoda]

well said!!
personally I though your comment should have been repeated!!

 

[jpeyton]

I see Israel bombing Iran before I see Iran bombing Israel.

Who should we be trying to keep on a tighter leash?

 

[JEDIYoda]

Originally posted by: jpeyton
I see Israel bombing Iran before I see Iran bombing Israel.

Who should we be trying to keep on a tighter leash?

Your thinking defies logic and any sense if intellect....
Israel will never use Nuclear weapons on Iran...your sight is blinded by your obvious lack of understanding.
I will tell you this much...Israel will attack Iran using conventional non -nuclear weapons if it means defending themselves against a very real threat!

Israel will never ever use nukes first!!

 

[ebaycj]

Originally posted by: JEDIYoda

Originally posted by: jpeyton
I see Israel bombing Iran before I see Iran bombing Israel.

Who should we be trying to keep on a tighter leash?

Your thinking defies logic and any sense if intellect....
Israel will never use Nuclear weapons on Iran...your sight is blinded by your obvious lack of understanding.
I will tell you this much...Israel will attack Iran using conventional non -nuclear weapons if it means defending themselves against a very real threat!

Israel will never ever use nukes first!!

Lemme take a wild guess, you're Jewish, right ?

 

[jman19]

Originally posted by: ebaycj

Originally posted by: JEDIYoda

Originally posted by: jpeyton
I see Israel bombing Iran before I see Iran bombing Israel.

Who should we be trying to keep on a tighter leash?

Your thinking defies logic and any sense if intellect....
Israel will never use Nuclear weapons on Iran...your sight is blinded by your obvious lack of understanding.
I will tell you this much...Israel will attack Iran using conventional non -nuclear weapons if it means defending themselves against a very real threat!

Israel will never ever use nukes first!!

Lemme take a wild guess, you're Jewish, right ?

So you think Israel will use nukes first, unprovoked?

 

[soccerballtux]

Originally posted by: jman19

Originally posted by: ebaycj

Originally posted by: JEDIYoda

Originally posted by: jpeyton
I see Israel bombing Iran before I see Iran bombing Israel.

Who should we be trying to keep on a tighter leash?

Your thinking defies logic and any sense if intellect....
Israel will never use Nuclear weapons on Iran...your sight is blinded by your obvious lack of understanding.
I will tell you this much...Israel will attack Iran using conventional non -nuclear weapons if it means defending themselves against a very real threat!

Israel will never ever use nukes first!!

Lemme take a wild guess, you're Jewish, right ?

So you think Israel will use nukes first, unprovoked?

Of course! Israel is the sort of country that runs around claiming all the Muslim infidels need to be removed off the face of the planet! As if! It's quite the opposite actually.
Proof 1
Proof 2
Proof 3

Game. Set. Match.

 

[OCGuy]

Originally posted by: ericlp

Originally posted by: OCguy

Originally posted by: ericlp
First I highly doubt the US would do a fucking thing if Iran attacked with nukes.

What good would it do? You'd just add more nuclear fall out to the world and watch it spread across other nations. Joy!!! How stupid could you get? Yeah, it's just a feel good story. We might send a few predators out that way for clean up missions.

You obviously do not know of what you speak.

So Iran fires 500 nukes into Israel, then Israel fires back 5000 nukes @ Iran. Both countries totally whipped out. Our problems are solved...! Whoooho! Now, That is unlikely that anyone will fire nukes but in case it did that is about what would happen.

How is the USA going to make the situation any better when we launch our own nukes at Iran ??? It's already gone... What good would that do?

Enlighten me about what I don't know.

There is so much ignorance in that post it would take me all day to respond.

 

[EagleKeeper]

Originally posted by: soccerballtux

Originally posted by: jman19

Originally posted by: ebaycj

Originally posted by: JEDIYoda

Originally posted by: jpeyton
I see Israel bombing Iran before I see Iran bombing Israel.

Who should we be trying to keep on a tighter leash?

Your thinking defies logic and any sense if intellect....
Israel will never use Nuclear weapons on Iran...your sight is blinded by your obvious lack of understanding.
I will tell you this much...Israel will attack Iran using conventional non -nuclear weapons if it means defending themselves against a very real threat!

Israel will never ever use nukes first!!

Lemme take a wild guess, you're Jewish, right ?

So you think Israel will use nukes first, unprovoked?

Of course! Israel is the sort of country that runs around claiming all the Muslim infidels need to be removed off the face of the planet! As if! It's quite the opposite actually.
Proof 1
Proof 2
Proof 3

Game. Set. Match.

There are those that will state the the noise that comes out of the President of IRan's mounth is jsut rhetoric and Iran will not follow up.

Yet if he is not the real power, then why do those that are the real power, allow him to spout off, jepordizing the impression of the country and possible expose it to hostile actions?

 

[soccerballtux]

Originally posted by: OCguy

Originally posted by: ericlp

Originally posted by: OCguy

Originally posted by: ericlp
First I highly doubt the US would do a fucking thing if Iran attacked with nukes.

What good would it do? You'd just add more nuclear fall out to the world and watch it spread across other nations. Joy!!! How stupid could you get? Yeah, it's just a feel good story. We might send a few predators out that way for clean up missions.

You obviously do not know of what you speak.

So Iran fires 500 nukes into Israel, then Israel fires back 5000 nukes @ Iran. Both countries totally whipped out. Our problems are solved...! Whoooho! Now, That is unlikely that anyone will fire nukes but in case it did that is about what would happen.

How is the USA going to make the situation any better when we launch our own nukes at Iran ??? It's already gone... What good would that do?

Enlighten me about what I don't know.

There is so much ignorance in that post it would take me all day to respond.

I think what happened is Obama saw all the top secret reports on Iran and realized it wasn't fun and games anymore, that a hard fist of power would be needed to keep peace.

 

[soccerballtux]

Originally posted by: Common Courtesy

Originally posted by: soccerballtux

Originally posted by: jman19

Originally posted by: ebaycj

Originally posted by: JEDIYoda

Originally posted by: jpeyton
I see Israel bombing Iran before I see Iran bombing Israel.

Who should we be trying to keep on a tighter leash?

Your thinking defies logic and any sense if intellect....
Israel will never use Nuclear weapons on Iran...your sight is blinded by your obvious lack of understanding.
I will tell you this much...Israel will attack Iran using conventional non -nuclear weapons if it means defending themselves against a very real threat!

Israel will never ever use nukes first!!

Lemme take a wild guess, you're Jewish, right ?

So you think Israel will use nukes first, unprovoked?

Of course! Israel is the sort of country that runs around claiming all the Muslim infidels need to be removed off the face of the planet! As if! It's quite the opposite actually.
Proof 1
Proof 2
Proof 3

Game. Set. Match.

There are those that will state the the noise that comes out of the President of IRan's mounth is jsut rhetoric and Iran will not follow up.

Yet if he is not the real power, then why do those that are the real power, allow him to spout off, jepordizing the impression of the country and possible expose it to hostile actions?

They say it's for public approval, simply for domestic consumption.

Which is plenty of reason to not let them have nuclear power. If your populace is that bloodthirsty and your leaders are happy to make use of it to further their goals, then you clearly are not a nation stable enough to wield atomic power.

My question is why information on exactly what kind of refinement capacity they have is not released; perhaps because we don't want them to know what we know. All we really need to know is how many centrifuges they have...

 

[jpeyton]

Originally posted by: JEDIYoda
Israel will attack Iran using conventional non -nuclear weapons if it means defending themselves against a very real threat!

Ah, the Bush doctrine...preemptive strikes are great for starting unnecessary wars.

What is this, Minority Report?

 

[soccerballtux]

Originally posted by: jpeyton

Originally posted by: JEDIYoda
Israel will attack Iran using conventional non -nuclear weapons if it means defending themselves against a very real threat!

Ah, the Bush doctrine...preemptive strikes are great for starting unnecessary wars.

What is this, Minority Report?

You forget that every other time in history that there has been peace, it's been held with an iron fist of dictatorial power. In short, you are an idealist. Like most other democrats, you lose sight of reality. All that is required for evil to prevail is for good men to do nothing.

Israel has publicized that they will perform a surgical strike if they need to.

As far as iron fists go, the US (and Israel) are teddy bears.
People don't know how bad it could be. Which means, it's about time for another massive world war, if history tells us anything. Fortunately, as long as we keep up defense spending we (and thus the world) should be fine.

 

[OCGuy]

Originally posted by: jpeyton

Originally posted by: JEDIYoda
Israel will attack Iran using conventional non -nuclear weapons if it means defending themselves against a very real threat!

Ah, the Bush doctrine...preemptive strikes are great for starting unnecessary wars.

What is this, Minority Report?

Israel is the only reason Saddam never had nukes, and they are the reason Syria's program is set back years.

If you think them striking out at the fundamentalist threats would be the "Bush Doctrine", you need to open a history book.

 

[umbrella39]

Originally posted by: OCguy

Originally posted by: Aimster
why would they launch a nuclear attack against Israel?
They r not at war.

They hate Jews and the Jewish state maybe?


Are you really that dense?

You post too GD much Zendari.

 

[JS80]

Originally posted by: Aimster
They hate Jews? There are 30,000 Jews inside Iran right now. They are not guarded. They are not protected. If people wanted to murder them they could easily do so. If a member of the govt hated Jews so much all he had to do was go outside a Synagogue and shoot one in the head.

Israel is too late to attack Iran. It's over. There will be no attack on Iran. Iran has everything they need to build a bomb. All they need to do is figure out how to build one.

How many Jews in Iran pre-Revolution?

 

[QuantumPion]

Originally posted by: JS80
Useless guarantee. Israel already has nukes they can retaliate with. Iran would not "directly" nuke Israel. Some terror group would "steal" the bomb and sneak it in. What then? Just nuke the entire region in retaliation because you can't prove it? Or do nothing, and make the guarantee useless?

This is the crux of the matter which people seem to be ignoring for some peculiar reason.

Although if Pakistan collapses there may be a more imminent threat.

 

[ericlp]

Originally posted by: OCguy

Originally posted by: ericlp

Originally posted by: OCguy

Originally posted by: ericlp
First I highly doubt the US would do a fucking thing if Iran attacked with nukes.

What good would it do? You'd just add more nuclear fall out to the world and watch it spread across other nations. Joy!!! How stupid could you get? Yeah, it's just a feel good story. We might send a few predators out that way for clean up missions.

You obviously do not know of what you speak.

So Iran fires 500 nukes into Israel, then Israel fires back 5000 nukes @ Iran. Both countries totally whipped out. Our problems are solved...! Whoooho! Now, That is unlikely that anyone will fire nukes but in case it did that is about what would happen.

How is the USA going to make the situation any better when we launch our own nukes at Iran ??? It's already gone... What good would that do?

Enlighten me about what I don't know.

There is so much ignorance in that post it would take me all day to respond.

Ah well... that's ok, I'm sure you don't have any points. Your creditability is hosed anyway around here.

 

[OCGuy]

Originally posted by: ericlp


Ah well... that's ok, I'm sure you don't have any points. Your creditability is hosed anyway around here.

Say whatever you want, just dont attack my "creditability."

 

[Aimster]

Originally posted by: JS80

Originally posted by: Aimster
They hate Jews? There are 30,000 Jews inside Iran right now. They are not guarded. They are not protected. If people wanted to murder them they could easily do so. If a member of the govt hated Jews so much all he had to do was go outside a Synagogue and shoot one in the head.

Israel is too late to attack Iran. It's over. There will be no attack on Iran. Iran has everything they need to build a bomb. All they need to do is figure out how to build one.

How many Jews in Iran pre-Revolution?

Open up California to Iranian citizens. Iran's Muslim population will drop by tens of millions.
Jews have a place to go. Muslims don't. They are stuck in Iran.

 

[ElFenix]

presidential elections 2 months away, maybe imadinnerjacket will be replaced. mousavi is supposed to have a big lead.

 

[Ozoned]

Originally posted by: Lemon law
I have to agree that Iran will never use Nukes as a first strike option. As it is, we don't even know if Iran wants nuclear energy for electric power generation
or may rely on the precedent that no nuclear armed country has ever been attacked, a non trivial distinction given the US has had an Iran hostile foreign policy for too many years, and a Cheney type driven snit against Iran has driven the US policy for the past 30 years.

Sadly, even that precedent that no nuclear armed country being invulnerable has hardly saved Pakistan from being destabilized.

Think outside of the box.

Maybe, there is a religious nutjob somewhere in Iran that has some power, and his only goal in life is to see that Israel leaves Mohammed's Island,,,, at any cost.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Originally posted by: OCguy

Originally posted by: jpeyton

Originally posted by: JEDIYoda
Israel will attack Iran using conventional non -nuclear weapons if it means defending themselves against a very real threat!

Ah, the Bush doctrine...preemptive strikes are great for starting unnecessary wars.

What is this, Minority Report?

Israel is the only reason Saddam never had nukes, and they are the reason Syria's program is set back years.

If you think them striking out at the fundamentalist threats would be the "Bush Doctrine", you need to open a history book.

Saddam didn't have nukes because he had his rear handed to him in the Gulf War. Israel attacked once in 1981. After that, Saddam had still wished to acquire nukes, but that changed once he found out how things were.

 

[JS80]

Originally posted by: Aimster

Originally posted by: JS80

Originally posted by: Aimster
They hate Jews? There are 30,000 Jews inside Iran right now. They are not guarded. They are not protected. If people wanted to murder them they could easily do so. If a member of the govt hated Jews so much all he had to do was go outside a Synagogue and shoot one in the head.

Israel is too late to attack Iran. It's over. There will be no attack on Iran. Iran has everything they need to build a bomb. All they need to do is figure out how to build one.

How many Jews in Iran pre-Revolution?

Open up California to Iranian citizens. Iran's Muslim population will drop by tens of millions.
Jews have a place to go. Muslims don't. They are stuck in Iran.

Did Jews have to escape their homeland by Camel to neighboring countries during the Islamic Revolution? Or is that zionist jew propaganda?

 

[Aimster]

Originally posted by: JS80

Originally posted by: Aimster

Originally posted by: JS80

Originally posted by: Aimster
They hate Jews? There are 30,000 Jews inside Iran right now. They are not guarded. They are not protected. If people wanted to murder them they could easily do so. If a member of the govt hated Jews so much all he had to do was go outside a Synagogue and shoot one in the head.

Israel is too late to attack Iran. It's over. There will be no attack on Iran. Iran has everything they need to build a bomb. All they need to do is figure out how to build one.

How many Jews in Iran pre-Revolution?

Open up California to Iranian citizens. Iran's Muslim population will drop by tens of millions.
Jews have a place to go. Muslims don't. They are stuck in Iran.

Did Jews have to escape their homeland by Camel to neighboring countries during the Islamic Revolution? Or is that zionist jew propaganda?

Escape from...?

Majority of Jewish Iranians left Iran on Boeing aircraft bound for the USA or Israel before the revolution or during it when they had a chance to 'escape'.