Obama's atomic umbrella: U.S. nuclear strike if Iran nukes Israel

[AFMatt]

If Iran is in fact attempting to develop nuclear weapons, which they very well may be, it is somewhat asinine to assume they would actually launch a NUCLEAR attack on Israel despite what they think about the place. Nations like Iran have a nuclear goal for two reasons; leverage and deterrence.
On the leverage front, the nation feels having a nuclear weapon gives them a step up on any negotiating table. When a nation is viewed as somewhat unstable or volatile, the fact they have a nuc strikes fear in other nations.
On the deterrence front, if Iran does in fact develop nuclear weapons they will have some confidence that a conventional attack on a potentially nuclear nation like Israel will likely not result in a nuclear response. Israel will most likely not defend themselves with a nuclear weapon (like we did to Japan), when they know they will get one in return.

As far as Israel's nuclear response, it is highly doubtful they have any long range nuclear capability. I believe they are only estimated to have maybe 100 warheads, and chances are they probably only have the capability to arm large bombs. This would require flight into Iranian air space and getting by Iranian air defense to attack. Hell, given their "cannot confirm nor deny" stance, they may not even have any operational nuclear weapons, but they wont say they don't because of the above reasons (leverage/deterrence).

 

[JEDIYoda]

Originally posted by: AFMatt
If Iran is in fact attempting to develop nuclear weapons, which they very well may be, it is somewhat asinine to assume they would actually launch a NUCLEAR attack on Israel despite what they think about the place. Ya think...or do you actually know?? Nations like Iran have a nuclear goal for two reasons; leverage and deterrence. So you are now an expert on the use of nuclear weapons?On the leverage front, the nation feels having a nuclear weapon gives them a step up on any negotiating table. When a nation is viewed as somewhat unstable or volatile, the fact they have a nuc strikes fear in other nations. The only reason it would strike fear is perhaps because they will use it...On the deterrence front, if Iran does in fact develop nuclear weapons they will have some confidence that a conventional attack on a potentially nuclear nation like Israel will likely not result in a nuclear response. Israel will most likely not defend themselves with a nuclear weaponFirst of all nobody said Israel would use nuclear weapons to defend themselves...yet if attacked by nuclear weapons you can rest assured that part of the world will be one hell of a fireworks display!! (like we did to Japan)whats exactly are you trying to say??, when they know they will get one in return.

As far as Israel's nuclear response, it is highly doubtful they have any long range nuclear capability. You sadly mistaken...... I believe they are only estimated to have maybe 100 warheads, and chances are they probably only have the capability to arm large bombs. This would require flight into Iranian air space and getting by Iranian air defense to attack. You are really nieve aren`t you...you would be suprised what they can do.... Hell, given their "cannot confirm nor deny" stance, they may not even have any operational nuclear weapons, but they wont say they don't because of the above reasons (leverage/deterrence). Pinch yourself a wake up so that you can crawl out of that bullshit that you laid!!

 

[AFMatt]

I don't know Jedi, I am only making educated guesses based off my experience working on US ICBMs for the past 17 years. Apparently you have more experience and knowledge in this area, so please feel free to share it.

 

[JEDIYoda]

Originally posted by: AFMatt
I don't know Jedi, I am only making educated guesses based off my experience working on US ICBMs for the past 17 years. Apparently you have more experience and knowledge in this area, so please feel free to share it.

You can be anythinng you want on the internet....enjoy..you are making very ignorant comments.....if yuo say you know as much as you do!!

I do have experience in the IDF as did my father and my son. Trust me you know jack shit about what Israel is capable of or has in their arsenal!!

 

[Aimster]

Originally posted by: Ozoned

Originally posted by: Lemon law
I have to agree that Iran will never use Nukes as a first strike option. As it is, we don't even know if Iran wants nuclear energy for electric power generation
or may rely on the precedent that no nuclear armed country has ever been attacked, a non trivial distinction given the US has had an Iran hostile foreign policy for too many years, and a Cheney type driven snit against Iran has driven the US policy for the past 30 years.

Sadly, even that precedent that no nuclear armed country being invulnerable has hardly saved Pakistan from being destabilized.

Think outside of the box.

Maybe, there is a religious nutjob somewhere in Iran that has some power, and his only goal in life is to see that Israel leaves Mohammed's Island,,,, at any cost.

So what about some fanatical wacko working in some nuclear missile base who believes the M.E should be turned to glass?
What about a crazy Russia who wants to start world war III?

It's not that easy or the Earth would be a wasteland.

 

[retrospooty]

Originally posted by: OCguy

Originally posted by: ericlp

Originally posted by: OCguy

Originally posted by: ericlp
First I highly doubt the US would do a fucking thing if Iran attacked with nukes.

What good would it do? You'd just add more nuclear fall out to the world and watch it spread across other nations. Joy!!! How stupid could you get? Yeah, it's just a feel good story. We might send a few predators out that way for clean up missions.

You obviously do not know of what you speak.

So Iran fires 500 nukes into Israel, then Israel fires back 5000 nukes @ Iran. Both countries totally whipped out. Our problems are solved...! Whoooho! Now, That is unlikely that anyone will fire nukes but in case it did that is about what would happen.

How is the USA going to make the situation any better when we launch our own nukes at Iran ??? It's already gone... What good would that do?

Enlighten me about what I don't know.

There is so much ignorance in that post it would take me all day to respond.

Not really, strip away the drama and attitude and there is a point in there. Lets say Iran gets its nuclear warhead program in gear and makes some effective weapons, picks a fight and fires them off at Isreal ... Before those missiles even strike the ground, Isreal will release a barrage of nukes back at Iran, in a far more deadly strike - more missiles and more powerful blasts per missile. Iran's military and govt., and ability to wage war would be totally decimated. Basically, its suicide for Iran to do a nuclear strike. I just don't see that happening in this world.

Why would we need to fire off our missiles? Iran will be toast. Our govt, stating we would, is more of a show of support than anything. Iran has everything I mentioned above to deal with... Plus, the US Military.

 

[amddude]

Israel is smaller than Vermont. That's what's being left out here. It wouldn't take that much firepower to mostly level and irradiate the entire country.