Obamacare Fines to be Seized From Bank Accounts?

[Zstream]

Alex jones, the same guy who thought the tornado in Oklahoma was caused by the government. Great source OP!

How long till conservatives start using a bag of bones and teeth interpreted by a shaman as a news source.

Actually many believe it, it's the haarp system I believe.

 

[Matt1970]

n/m

 

[Zstream]

That's all a bunch of lies. The penalty for not having insurance for 2014 is a max of $95, not $4037. I also think the deductible of almost $14K is not true. If I remember correctly all Obamacare plans must limit the amount of annual out-of-pocket costs to no more than $6,350.

It's quite possible that the websites database or fields are inaccurate. He'll, we release products all the time and we screw it up on some occasion.

 

[Spungo]

Too bad the person who posted this on their Facebook page didn't post a scan of the letter. I find this claim hard to believe otherwise.

It doesn't seem that hard to believe. Obamacare was passed as a tax. What happens when you don't pay things like income tax or property tax? The government jacks you. That's just the way it is. Wesley Snipes went to jail because he didn't pay his taxes.

 

[werepossum]

It's Alex Jones so anything is a source and unquestioned.

My theory is that if we brought Alex Jones to D.C. and then slowly removed him, a lot of the crazy would inevitably follow. We could then send him to Iran by slow ship. At best, Iran keeps him and the crazy for years - not like they could notice some more crazy. At worst, they'd fly him out of the country and perhaps some of the crazy would be left behind, what with the high speed and the stiff fees for extra baggage. It would be worth it to give him some classified information to leak too (we have tons of it after all) so that either Iran would embrace him or he'd be afraid to return to North America, being an important whistle blower. (Although nothing ever seems to happen, the consensus seems to be that whistle blowers are at far more risk from the government than are media loons.)

Hey, it's more solid than the CIA's plan to discredit Castro by turning him gay.

 

[IronWing]

I love the post-enlightenment age. We all get to just make shit up to suit our moods. Tomorrow I'm going to reduce gravity by 90%.

 

[Darwin333]

Go ahead, since I don't bank. Nor do I have seizable assets. The only thing they can do with me is garnish wages, but since I now work entirely under the table, that's not gonna work either.

I tried to play fair, they fucked me. Now I get to fuck back, and I have a bigger dick.

It's prison or nothing from me government, and I won't be going quietly regardless.

Sounds quite amusing. I so hope that its caught on film.

 

[NoStateofMind]

Let's see. Obamacare is a "tax" right? If so, just like with "unpaid extortion fees" the IRS thugs will either steal from your check or steal from your bank account to "help you" pay "your fair share". Not too far of a stretch given the track record of the ruling class.

 

[NoStateofMind]

Go ahead, since I don't bank. Nor do I have seizable assets. The only thing they can do with me is garnish wages, but since I now work entirely under the table, that's not gonna work either.

I tried to play fair, they fucked me. Now I get to fuck back, and I have a bigger dick.

It's prison or nothing from me government, and I won't be going quietly regardless.

You must be crazy man. What about your fair share? TAX CHEAT!

 

[OutHouse]

so within 24 hours this guy gets a email from "somebody" that he has to comply? just 3 days after ACA gets a really shakey start and during a gubernent slimdown?

lol yea right. hahahahhha

 

[NoStateofMind]

Yeah using the term "shutdown" is sensationalizing it. It's more apply named "short term curtailment".

 

[waggy]

uh huh. i don't buy it.

to much makes me not believe it. from the "source" to him getting a response arleady.

 

[PrinceofWands]

You must be crazy man. What about your fair share? TAX CHEAT!

I happily pay taxes. I invite them. I think they should be raised significantly.

I don't participate in things I'm intellectually or morally opposed to (like insurance, banks, etc).

 

[PrinceofWands]

Let's see. Obamacare is a "tax" right? If so, just like with "unpaid extortion fees" the IRS thugs will either steal from your check or steal from your bank account to "help you" pay "your fair share". Not too far of a stretch given the track record of the ruling class.

Except, of course, it's nothing even resembling a tax.

 

[Wreckem]

It doesn't seem that hard to believe. Obamacare was passed as a tax. What happens when you don't pay things like income tax or property tax? The government jacks you. That's just the way it is. Wesley Snipes went to jail because he didn't pay his taxes.

Failure to pay an income tax is not a criminal offense. It can lead to an audit and an eventual garnishment/lien, but no criminal action can be brought.

Snipes was found guilty of criminal tax evasion. Which means he falsified his tax returns. He later claimed he didnt owe taxes because they are unconstitutional. Snipes was a dumbass.

There IS NO enforcement mechanism for the fine in the ACA. The ONLY WAY they can collect the fine is if you are due a refund or you voluntarily pay it.

Everything in that Facebook post/Infowars post is 100% BULLSHIT.

 

[sactoking]

There is pretty much nothing in that post that is true.

1. He's claiming that he made all the way through the enrollment process at 8:00 am on October 1. We know healthcare.gov was so buggy as to make this a virtual impossibility.
2. He claims his income "base" is 45-55k, but healthcare.gov doesn't let you input a range, you have to input a definitive number.
3. The one factor that's really relevant in evaluating premiums, age, isn't disclosed.
4. The annual deductible quoted is not compliant.
5. Healthcare.gov doesn't require, or even allow you, to proactively "opt-out", you do so just by not buying insurance not by clicking a radio button.
6. Healthcare.gov doesn't send emails warning of the dangers of "opting out", again it's something they don't track.
7. Penalty would be, at most, $550.
8. Driver's license can't legally be suspended.
9. Tax lien can't legally be placed on home.
10. Bank account can't legally be attached.

Anything else?

 

[Dannar26]

This probably isn't true. Yet.

Just give the liberal stranglehold on our country a few more years. I'm confident they're up to the task.

 

[Genx87]

Heh afaik the tax penalty is unenforceable. The only way they can collect is if you have a refund. They can deduct it from that. Otherwise if you have to pay in you can tell the IRS to get bent on the penalty.

 

[Juddog]

There is pretty much nothing in that post that is true.

1. He's claiming that he made all the way through the enrollment process at 8:00 am on October 1. We know healthcare.gov was so buggy as to make this a virtual impossibility.
2. He claims his income "base" is 45-55k, but healthcare.gov doesn't let you input a range, you have to input a definitive number.
3. The one factor that's really relevant in evaluating premiums, age, isn't disclosed.
4. The annual deductible quoted is not compliant.
5. Healthcare.gov doesn't require, or even allow you, to proactively "opt-out", you do so just by not buying insurance not by clicking a radio button.
6. Healthcare.gov doesn't send emails warning of the dangers of "opting out", again it's something they don't track.
7. Penalty would be, at most, $550.
8. Driver's license can't legally be suspended.
9. Tax lien can't legally be placed on home.
10. Bank account can't legally be attached.

Anything else?

Whether someone believes it is pretty much a test to show if you're a complete idiot or not. Nobody with half a working brain would fall for a disinformation piece like that.

 

[fskimospy]

Guys, Alex Jones believes the government caused that big Oklahoma tornado. The guy is genuinely, clinically insane. Why would you post things from his website.

 

[JEDIYoda]

If you don't wish them to take the money out of your account all you have to do is simply not give them the information.

umm actually no..you are wrong.....
They (government) already have your Social Security number and you need a SS## to open a bank account......they can easily take find and take money out of your account if they so chose....

 

[Darwin333]

I happily pay taxes. I invite them. I think they should be raised significantly.

I don't participate in things I'm intellectually or morally opposed to (like insurance, banks, etc).

The term "working under the table" is generally used when one works for cash to avoid taxation on said income.

The no seizeable assets part must suck unless you just put them in someone elses name in which they are seizeable, just not from you. Unless you have some uber complicated game going and even then I wouldn't be nearly as confident as you. The tax man, if you happen to get on his radar, is a motherfucker.

 

[Darwin333]

umm actually no..you are wrong.....
They (government) already have your Social Security number and you need a SS## to open a bank account......they can easily take find and take money out of your account if they so chose....

Umm, did you read what was posted in the OP? That is what I was replying to...

 

[Darwin333]

Heh afaik the tax penalty is unenforceable. The only way they can collect is if you have a refund. They can deduct it from that. Otherwise if you have to pay in you can tell the IRS to get bent on the penalty.

LMAO! Go ahead, tell the IRS to get bent and see how well that works out for you.

 

[Fern]

That's all a bunch of lies. The penalty for not having insurance for 2014 is a max of $95, not $4037. I also think the deductible of almost $14K is not true. If I remember correctly all Obamacare plans must limit the amount of annual out-of-pocket costs to no more than $6,350.

Nope.

I'm pretty sure the fine is the greater of 1% of income or $95. I.e., $95 is the lowest (although I believe there are some exceptions to the penalty).

Fern